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ProDeo

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How far away is the moon according to NASA whom you trust.

The Moon is not always the same distance away from Earth. The orbit is not a perfect circle. And so it depends, from 225,000 - 252,000 miles. Source : NASA

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Well ProDeo
Those folk who produce all those fake videos so we could be fooled into thinking they're real...
would KNOW whether or not there should be starts in the background and produce the scene accordingly.
They''re not dumb ya know. They know how to fool us real good.

Let's see what our new god says: Gemini

Can stars be seen from the moon?

Yes, stars are absolutely visible from the Moon, even during the lunar day, but you need to shield your eyes from the blinding Sun and bright Earth, and cameras often miss them due to short exposures needed for bright surfaces. With no atmosphere, stars don't twinkle and appear clearer, but the extreme brightness of the lunar day or the reflected light from Earth can easily wash them out, just like city lights hide stars on Earth, so you need a long exposure or to be in deep shadow for photos.


Can stars be seen from space?

Yes, stars can absolutely be seen from space, and often more clearly than from Earth because there's no atmosphere to block or distort the light, but they aren't always visible in photos due to bright sunlight and camera settings, similar to trying to see stars during a bright day on Earth. Astronauts in orbit see a brilliant night sky when the Sun isn't in view, but when looking towards the bright Earth or the Sun, the glare makes faint stars hard to spot, just as cameras need longer exposures for stars, which would overexpose the brighter Earth.


See,,,the same.
Looks like those people making those fake pictures/film really know what they're doing!!


Which makes me wonder how DUMB were those people that produced that video @Rudometkin posted??

Seriously....who can know why that video was made...I sure don't remember.
I just remember seeing it and how fake it looked.
Maybe Coppola or Spielberg should have been called in??

Found an explanation from ESA.

I still don't get it.
 

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The Moon is not always the same distance away from Earth. The orbit is not a perfect circle. And so it depends, from 225,000 - 252,000 miles. Source : NASA

With love and peace.
Of course we love each other - no distance from the moon can separate us from the love of Christ.

Last night was a full moon here.
Anyone can easily see, just with their eyes the surface of the moon.

With just mere 10x Binoculars you see even more detail.
God does not want you placing your trust in satanists/globalists.
Impossible for the naked eye to 200,000 miles with the clarity and size of the moon at that distance.

Moon is probably a few hundred miles or perhaps a thousand if that.

Please take a few minutes and read this.

 
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God tells us through His servant Moses that there are waters above and below the firmament

Genesis 1:6-7 (KJV)
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."

God tells us through His servant Moses that the waters above and below the firmament were divided
before He created the dry land

Genesis 1:9 (KJV)
"And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so."

God tells us through His servant Moses that the great lights were placed within the firmament

Genesis 1:14-17 (KJV)
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth."

God questions Job through His servant Elihu about the heavens, describing the sky (firmament) as
strong molten glass

Job 37:18 (KJV)
"Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?"

Strong? A strong sky? Yes.
A strong firmament. Strong enough to divide the waters above from the waters below.

The great lights, and the lesser lights; Sun, moon and stars, are within the firmament

science
/sī′əns/
noun
The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

The Bible is indeed a science book

The best science book

For when God Himself identifies, describes, and explains His creation, theorization is no longer required

Trust the science

Trust your Creator

The Sun and Moon are local

Isa 40:21 Do you not know? Do you not hear? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?

Isa 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;
 

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Of course we love each other - no distance from the moon can separate us from the love of Christ.

Beautiful said.

Last night was a full moon here.
Anyone can easily see, just with their eyes the surface of the moon.

With just mere 10x Binoculars you see even more detail.
God does not want you placing your trust in satanists/globalists.
Impossible for the naked eye to 200,000 miles with the clarity and size of the moon at that distance.

Moon is probably a few hundred miles or perhaps a thousand if that.

Please take a few minutes and read this.

I miss the point you are making. Whatever is the right distance from Earth to the Moon, how does that make a flat earth?


Very bad people indeed, how does that make a flat earth?
 

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Beautiful said.



I miss the point you are making. Whatever is the right distance from Earth to the Moon, how does that make a flat earth?



Very bad people indeed, how does that make a flat earth?
The earth does not move = there is no such thing as "earth orbit" or "moon orbit"

Please read and believe God's Word = Genesis chapters 1 - 8 and Jeremiah 31:35-37
 
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Isa 40:21 Do you not know? Do you not hear? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?

Isa 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;
Circle
H2329. חוּג ḥûg̱: A masculine noun indicating a circle, a vault, the horizon (circular). Figuratively, it refers to the “roof” or vault of the heavens which the Lord walks on or sits on.

Not the verse you were looking for, sorry.
 

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How is that someone as smart as yourself did not answer a very basic question.???

ScottA - God is for us, not against us.

The TRUTH of Jeremiah 31:37 is Factual Science = that is the Challenge that God has made for all of mankind and Satan

God KNEW of the power of satan with his pysops of the globe/ball earth and thus HE gave us Genesis , Jeremiah 31:35-37 and more!!!

This is satan's last full attack on the ownership of the minds/souls of a world controlled by satan's darkness.
Soon coming is the army satan is building for the final 'Purge' of the Saints.

Which will Bring Down the WRATH of the LAMB
You simply repeating what you believe--not to mention your preaching and flowery would-be Christian flattery--is not the end of the matter, neither is your interpretation. It's just a dodge, just an evasion maneuver--because you have nothing more.

Meanwhile, I gave you a fair opportunity to prove your theory by demonstrating your own physical, three dimensional mock up (manifestation) of God at the center of the universe emitting His Light in every direction causing both light and darkness to come AROUND daily upon the earth--but you did not, because you cannot. Which makes your question about Jeremiah 31:37 a moot point--which would have been cleared up if you would only walk out your theory of how God has done what He has and actually think it through.

Until you do, you are not ready to move forward.
 

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I was taught that water represents the world and its teachings.
Comment please?

As when Jesus went out into the water to get fish for Peter....
He was going out into the "world" and showed Peter that he would fish for men.
God gave His biblical explanation of "waters" by first flooding this world with [liquid] water and promising never to do it again, followed by His promise of "I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh." Showing that the things of this world are made manifest having form, but His spirit is without form--yet is the greater flood upon the earth, referring to those waters above the firmament--heavenly waters that also rain down upon the earth.
 

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Also, doesn't this mean the wind would never blow anywhere?
I'm not an expert on these discussions - I just find them fascinating.
(re Rev 1:7)

And if we accept this,,,then does this mean that there's a real dragon somewhere?
If the earth is FLAT why cant Argentina see the NORTH STAR while Canada can ?
 

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You simply repeating what you believe--not to mention your preaching and flowery would-be Christian flattery--is not the end of the matter, neither is your interpretation. It's just a dodge, just an evasion maneuver--because you have nothing more.

Meanwhile, I gave you a fair opportunity to prove your theory by demonstrating your own physical, three dimensional mock up (manifestation) of God at the center of the universe emitting His Light in every direction causing both light and darkness to come AROUND daily upon the earth--but you did not, because you cannot. Which makes your question about Jeremiah 31:37 a moot point--which would have been cleared up if you would only walk out your theory of how God has done what He has and actually think it through.

Until you do, you are not ready to move forward.
#1 - i am posting God's words = Jeremiah 31:35-37

#2 - If you are not afraid, please answer this simple question:

Simple logic question for you on Jeremiah 31:37
Please answer either Yes or No as commanded by the LORD - Matthew 5:7

A.) “If heaven above can be measured,"
B.) "And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,"

A.) We know that scientists cannot search out the heavens above = Yes or No

B.) Have the foundations of the earth been searched/SEEN by man = Yes or No
 

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I'd like to hear your comment....
if you care to.
If one reads past Jeremiah 31:37, the greater context and message is about Israel's finish (as in "It is finished"). In verse 38 God gives the reference points, saying "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that the city shall be built for the Lord from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate." "Hananel" meaning: "God has favored", given in past tense indicating the days that "are coming" and the timing of when the message is actually referring to--as those times following the coming and crucifixion of Christ ("God has favored"). "To the Corner Gate" is a reference to the Cross itself (By definition: "a key strategic point for defense and a significant landmark, marking a boundary and representing God's protection, future restoration") and the change of course "Corner" referring to the times of the gentiles to follow.

In other word, verse 37 is not about the physical make up and formation of the heavens and the earth, but rather about Israel's world coming to an end according to the plan of God which He has made manifest physically, but is actually spirit in nature as God himself is spirit. The words are simply spiritual allegory for structure otherwise beyond words.

As for that structure, God has made manifest the perfect form of what is otherwise not physical in form at all, but spiritual. Which He did showing Himself as Light at the center of all things emanating out from Him in every direction--not as a directional spot or floodlight in the sky. Which can only be duplicated or demonstrated as a global sun and a global earth with "shadow of turning." Such is the perfect model, as it should be.
 
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#1 - i am posting God's words = Jeremiah 31:35-37

#2 - If you are not afraid, please answer this simple question:

Simple logic question for you on Jeremiah 31:37
Please answer either Yes or No as commanded by the LORD - Matthew 5:7

A.) “If heaven above can be measured,"
B.) "And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,"

A.) We know that scientists cannot search out the heavens above = Yes or No

B.) Have the foundations of the earth been searched/SEEN by man = Yes or No
You're not listening. You are not ready to consider Jeremiah 31:37 (your interpretation proves it).

If you want to do question and answer--Answer my request first (instead of evading). Show us your three dimensional model of your theory.
 

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You're not listening. You are not ready to consider Jeremiah 31:37 (your interpretation proves it).

If you want to do question and answer--Answer my request first (instead of evading). Show us your three dimensional model of your theory.
Your afraid
 

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No, but I have boldly challenged you. What's it going to be? Can you produce when challenged, when called on the carpet?
LOL ScottA

This isn't Burger King = you CANNOT have it your way

However, this subject matter is about the KING of Kings = Psalm 2

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
3“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
5Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
6Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.”
 

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LOL ScottA

This isn't Burger King = you CANNOT have it your way

However, this subject matter is about the KING of Kings = Psalm 2

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
3“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
5Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
6Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.”
""This isn't Burger King = you CANNOT have it your way""
Hi David, simple easy question, no rush :)
If the Earth is flat, why can't Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada can ?
 

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LOL ScottA

This isn't Burger King = you CANNOT have it your way

However, this subject matter is about the KING of Kings = Psalm 2

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
3“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
5Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
6Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.”
So when offered the opportunity to prove your flat earth theory, you have declined. Predictable. And no amount of scriptural sidestepping makes up for your lack of ability to produce proof. You cannot because you have not.

So be it.
 
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So when offered the opportunity to prove your flat earth theory, you have declined. Predictable. And no amount of scriptural sidestepping makes up for your lack of ability to produce proof. You cannot because you have not.

So be it.
So when offered the opportunity to give God the Glory you prove = you are AFRAID

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment.
But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
 
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