Gal 3:28 started when & includes who ??

[Taken]

Here is the mystery I was referring to.

Sure…
A mystery…in short…
God Promised the Israelites a Messiah TO SAVE THEM .

And HUH?
The Messiah Appears… Has A Name, Looks Like Human men, Has no Kingdom, no Army, no Wealth, no High Status, Has Multiple “TITLES”….

AND… HUH?
Now ignorant heathen Gentiles… ARE “Included” in Gods Promise of Salvation Given “TO the…
Hebrews, Israelites, Jews?

I would suppose… that mystery of God…is AS shocking to some men…
Not unlike some men will be AS shocked to Discover (At the gatherings)… of others (who were dirtbags scoundrels on this earth… ) but yet they too were Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Charlie24]

""Gods saves whom He will.""
1 Tim 2:4 ..Who will have all men to be saved
2 Pet 3:9.. but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish,
Not wanting ANYONE to perish GOD purposely allows their conception for the sole purpose of sending them to hell ?
The better explanation is predestination based on foreknowledge.
My only question is why would GOD, knowing that person will reject the Gospel still allow them to be conceived ?

I believe God created and set this universe in motion. The sun, moon and stars all serve a purpose for man.

In the same motion, pro-creation is set.

God could prevent the birth of all who He knows would not believe, just as well as He could prevent birth defects of innocent infants, but He doesn't, everything is set in motion by His decree.

In this motion man is suffering the results of his sin.

 

[Charlie24]

Sure…
A mystery…in short…
God Promised the Israelites a Messiah TO SAVE THEM .

And HUH?
The Messiah Appears… Has A Name, Looks Like Human men, Has no Kingdom, no Army, no Wealth, no High Status, Has Multiple “TITLES”….

AND… HUH?
Now ignorant heathen Gentiles… ARE “Included” in Gods Promise of Salvation Given “TO the…
Hebrews, Israelites, Jews?

I would suppose… that mystery of God…is AS shocking to some men…
Not unlike some men will be AS shocked to Discover (At the gatherings)… of others (who were dirtbags scoundrels on this earth… ) but yet they too were Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

Israel and I speak of the religious leaders, had no excuse not to recognize Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

They perverted the Law to be what they proposed it to be and not what God intended for it be.

Jesus simply did not meet the self made requirements of who they were expecting the Messiah to be.

 

[Charlie24]

Israel and I speak of the religious leaders, had no excuse not to recognize Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

They perverted the Law to be what they proposed it to be and not what God intended for it be.

Jesus simply did not meet the self made requirements of who they were expecting the Messiah to be.

There are some with us today who will have no excuse for accepting the Jesus who took the little children in His arms and blessed them, but deny the Jesus who in the future will be the Judge of man to eternal separation.

They do the same as the Pharisees of old, they create the Jesus of their liking.

 

[Taken]

""Gods saves whom He will.""
1 Tim 2:4 ..Who will have all men to be saved
2 Pet 3:9.. but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish,
Not wanting ANYONE to perish GOD purposely allows their conception for the sole purpose of sending them to hell ?

Certainly God wills, wishes, wants all humans to be Saved.

But they Won’t.

All Shall Believe.
All shall Bow and Worship Him.
Yet ALL Will NOT be Saved.

My only question is why would GOD, knowing that person will reject the Gospel still allow them to be conceived ?

Gods Plan For His Pleasure was To Create Humans and Thus He Did.

Gods Plan After Creating (His “habitats”, His “creations”… THEN “MADE” every creation (of angel-KIND and man-KIND) be Gifted with the Ability to Believe IN God.)

What occurred … in-between God Creating and God Making a human?

My speculation is… God created manKIND “With Free-WILL”…
THEN… Gifted “MAKING” A manKIND of being to have the Ability TO “Freely Choose to Believe IN God”.

So Why… “CREAT” manKind? Gods pleasure.
And WHEN God… then …”MADE” manKIND …
And God Knew WHAT that “created” mans FREEWILL choice would Be…
Why did God NOT … Then … exterminate His Created man?

What would that have accomplished?
A farce? That ONLY created and MEN MADE to Believe in God Would exist upon this Earth?

I am sure there are men who would Like to have the Power…. To MAKE another Love and Believe in them.Them.
But that is Not true Love… if Love and Belief is Forced… with no other option to choose.

I have NO ISSUE, with individual humans, who Reject God, to be eternally separated from God…
God IS Compassionate and Just.
Humans who Reject God… shall….
Cease to have Life IN Them. (Suffer Nothing)…Be forgotten.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Israel and I speak of the religious leaders, had no excuse not to recognize Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.

They perverted the Law to be what they proposed it to be and not what God intended for it be.

Jesus simply did not meet the self made requirements of who they were expecting the Messiah to be.

Not in dispute.

 

[rvmb]

Certainly God wills, wishes, wants all humans to be Saved.

But they Won’t.

All Shall Believe.
All shall Bow and Worship Him.
Yet ALL Will NOT be Saved.



Gods Plan For His Pleasure was To Create Humans and Thus He Did.

Gods Plan After Creating (His “habitats”, His “creations”… THEN “MADE” every creation (of angel-KIND and man-KIND) be Gifted with the Ability to Believe IN God.)

What occurred … in-between God Creating and God Making a human?

My speculation is… God created manKIND “With Free-WILL”…
THEN… Gifted “MAKING” A manKIND of being to have the Ability TO “Freely Choose to Believe IN God”.

So Why… “CREAT” manKind? Gods pleasure.
And WHEN God… then …”MADE” manKIND …
And God Knew WHAT that “created” mans FREEWILL choice would Be…
Why did God NOT … Then … exterminate His Created man?

What would that have accomplished?
A farce? That ONLY created and MEN MADE to Believe in God Would exist upon this Earth?

I am sure there are men who would Like to have the Power…. To MAKE another Love and Believe in them.Them.
But that is Not true Love… if Love and Belief is Forced… with no other option to choose.

I have NO ISSUE, with individual humans, who Reject God, to be eternally separated from God…
God IS Compassionate and Just.
Humans who Reject God… shall….
Cease to have Life IN Them. (Suffer Nothing)…Be forgotten.

Glory to God,
Taken

"""Certainly God wills, wishes, wants all humans to be Saved.""
Your simple statement confirms that GOD knows NOT chooses who will be saved :)

 

[Taken]

"""Certainly God wills, wishes, wants all humans to be Saved.""
Your simple statement confirms that GOD knows NOT chooses who will be saved :)

Regarding Salvation;
I would say the consideration IS…
WHO knows WHAT and WHEN.

Before a man IS (naturally) born:
God KNOWS:
AND then:
CHOOSES whom shall BE Saved,
AND WHEN.

After a man IS (naturally) born;
Men CHOOSE:
AND then:
“SOME” “KNOW” “WHEN” they ARE Saved,
AND
“SOME” “HOPE” they SHALL Be Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Davy]

Since Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, 1 Cor 12:13 are teachings of Paul they obviously applied AFTER Acts 9:15 but when ?
In Gal 2:7-9 :-
Peter/12 taught the circ Gospel (Acts 2:38) to the circ
Paul taught the UNcirc Gospel (Eph1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4) to the rest
So obviously the following verses had not yet come into effect.
-----------------------------
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Man, you sure have been subjected to men's doctrines 'very'... loosely based on The Bible. That's worse than some country preachers who never got past the 3rd grade.


1. firstly, there is no such thing in God's Word as "the circ Gospel", nor "the UNcirc Gospel", and I know what you meant, probably with good intentions. However, Galatians 2:7-8 is not about two different Gospels of Jesus Christ. It is merely saying that Apostle Peter was given a stewardship to take The Gospel of Jesus Christ to the Jews, but Apostle Paul was given an administration to take that 'same' Gospel to the Gentiles. The use of the words circumcision or uncircumcision is only used as an identifier of the two groups, Jews vs. Gentiles. It is not about two different Gospels of Jesus Christ.


2. As a matter of fact per Acts 9 about Paul, Jesus said Paul was His "chosen vessel" to preach The Gospel to...

1. the Gentiles, AND...
2. to kings, AND...
3. to the children of Israel

 

[rvmb]

Regarding Salvation;
I would say the consideration IS…
WHO knows WHAT and WHEN.

Before a man IS (naturally) born:
God KNOWS:
AND then:
CHOOSES whom shall BE Saved,
AND WHEN.

After a man IS (naturally) born;
Men CHOOSE:
AND then:
“SOME” “KNOW” “WHEN” they ARE Saved,
AND
“SOME” “HOPE” they SHALL Be Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

Do you claim that GOD chooses who will not be saved ?

 

[Prycejosh1987]

The beauty of Christ is when we take on the nature of Christ culture doesnt define us, neither does heritage or upbringing. We become one as people in Christ.

 

[rvmb]

The beauty of Christ is when we take on the nature of Christ culture doesnt define us, neither does heritage or upbringing. We become one as people in Christ.

Confirmed by Paul in Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11.
EVERY believer who trusts only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of their sins regardless of race or location is in the Body of Christ