Do you believe in biological evolution?

[Chihuahua]

No we aren't.

This article explains that.

The Bipedal Two-Step of Human Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research

www.icr.org

The article is not scientific and provides no evidence to what is agreed upon among real scientists.

 

[Chihuahua]

Christian PhD Scientists Dr James Tour & Dr Stephen Meyer are my Biblical species adaption/dna etc goto.

James Tour - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Stephen C. Meyer

A former geophysicist and college professor, Stephen C. Meyer now directs Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture in Seattle.

stephencmeyer.org

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They DO NOT HAVE PHDs. They are not scientists. They do not publish real papers and they sure as heck are not peer reviewed.

 

[Chihuahua]

OK, I'm going to assume you're serious asking that. Firstly, I believe in an Old Creation, which still is not the theory of evolution.

That is how and why God's Word does... align with the ancient fossil record, while having absolutely nothing to do with man's theory of the evolution of species.

No, it does not. No reputable scientist thinks the world is 6000 years old. Genesis is a story of meaning, not scientific statements.

5. Per the end of Hebrews 12, Paul says to remember Him Who once before shook the earth, and says 'once again, He will shake not only the earth, but the heavens also'. Aircraft pilots have to correct their compass heading flying over long distances because true magnetic north is about 90 miles off from true geographical north. It suggests this ancient earth is tilted off its axis.

The Earth is still tilted and has been since life emerged. I am not sure why you are bringing up the magnetic field, it changes frequently.

6. The fossil record reveals tropical animal and plant life located at both the earth's North and South poles, and in the deserts. Pseudo-science tries to explain this away with their earth crust shift theories.

It is not a theory, it is a measurable fact. The drift has been measured in our time. It is slow, but it is there. What do you think causes earthquakes, God's wrath?

But it cannot account for the wooly mammoths discovered frozen in ice in the Arctic regions still with undecayed vegetation in their mouths and stomachs, showing they were grazing in a green field in the Arctic areas.

Animals do this thing called moving around to find food.

 

[Chihuahua]

So who made it so that mules cannot reproduce?
I am not trying to get into a debate on evolution or creation.....it has already been discussed. I am just saying what I believe. Believe what you want.

Genetic drift did that. One group of the species became separated genetically from the other. Producing two distinct species that were still able to reproduce, but the offspring are sterile. I guess God does stuff like that to trick us and test our faith?

 

[Chihuahua]

Why do we still have apes? Were apes made in the image of God?

Why do we have other apes? Are you one of those people that is so uninformed about evolution that you think evolution means monkeys all changed to apes and apes would have all changed into humans? That is not how evolution works. All apes have a common ancestor and went their separate ways genetically due to location.

 

[rvmb]

They DO NOT HAVE PHDs. They are not scientists. They do not publish real papers and they sure as heck are not peer reviewed.

And your credentials V Dr James Tour & Dr Stephen Meyer are ?
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[Chihuahua]

And your credentials V Dr James Tour & Dr Stephen Meyer are ?
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My mistake, I thought they were the same two jokers with Honrary phDs. The first is a Chemist (nothing about molecular genetics) and the other is a philosopher.

 

[rvmb]

My mistake, I thought they were the same two jokers with Honrary phDs. The first is a Chemist (nothing about molecular genetics) and the other is a philosopher.

and your credential V theirs are ?

 

[Chihuahua]

and your credential V theirs are ?

I am a random person on the internet. I studied and worked in molecular genetics and was involved in publishing real papers that are peer reviewed. Insofar as their credibility regarding evolution they might just as well have a doctorate in art. Having a doctorate doesn't give you any credibility on any field of your liking. They do not publish credible, peer reviewed papers on topics of evolution. Their credibility on the topic is the same as any random person.

People with doctorates generally don't go around parading a doctorate when writing or speaking in an unrelated field.

 

[Triumph1300]

You folks might be interested in this link:

Reasons to Believe

Reasons to Believe opens people to the gospel by revealing God in science. Discover how scientific research and clear thinking consistently affirm the truth of the Bible and of the Good News it reveals.

reasons.org

 

[rvmb]

I am a random person on the internet. I studied and worked in molecular genetics and was involved in publishing real papers that are peer reviewed. Insofar as their credibility regarding evolution they might just as well have a doctorate in art. Having a doctorate doesn't give you any credibility on any field of your liking. They do not publish credible, peer reviewed papers on topics of evolution. Their credibility on the topic is the same as any random person.

People with doctorates generally don't go around parading a doctorate when writing or speaking in an unrelated field.

At least I know who to listen to now :)

 

[Chihuahua]

At least I know who to listen to now :)
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If you are "listening" to him when in comes to Chemistry he seems credible. When it comes to evolution, his background is no more credible than anyone with a college course in biology. You do understand that if you have an impressive C.V. in the art field, it doesn't mean you are credible on unrelated topics, right? You might have great medical doctor but does that make him an expert in electrical engineering.

None of that makes him credible when it comes to biology and in particular molecular genetics. If you don't understand that, I really can't explain it.

 

[rvmb]

If you are "listening" to him when in comes to Chemistry he seems credible. When it comes to evolution, his background is no more credible than anyone with a college course in biology. You do understand that if you have an impressive C.V. in the art field, it doesn't mean you are credible on unrelated topics, right? You might have great medical doctor but does that make him an expert in electrical engineering.

None of that makes him credible when it comes to biology and in particular molecular genetics. If you don't understand that, I really can't explain it.

Your Doctorate or Phd to make such assessment is ?

 

[Chihuahua]

Your Doctorate or Phd to make such assessment is ?

I laughed out loud with that. Really? If someone has a doctorate that makes them an expert or anything and everything? It means they are an expert in their field of study. Are you being serious?

 

[rvmb]

I laughed out loud with that. Really? If someone has a doctorate that makes them an expert or anything and everything? It means they are an expert in their field of study. Are you being serious?

In that case you at least have a Masters Degree in something, what would that be ?

 

[Nancy]

You folks might be interested in this link:

Reasons to Believe

Reasons to Believe opens people to the gospel by revealing God in science. Discover how scientific research and clear thinking consistently affirm the truth of the Bible and of the Good News it reveals.

reasons.org

"Everything must be tested"!! Great video Triumph, thanks for sharing.

 

[Chihuahua]

In that case you at least have a Masters Degree in something, what would that be ?

How would a Master's degree have any relevance in pointing out this person's expertise is in another field?

Google:
The appeal to authority fallacy is a logical error that occurs when a claim is accepted as true simply because an authority figure says it is, rather than based on the strength of the evidence. It's fallacious because the authority cited is often not a legitimate expert in the field, is biased, or there is no expert consensus. While it's important to trust experts, this fallacy incorrectly assumes that an individual's authority alone is sufficient proof for their claim.

Examples of the fallacy

• Using a celebrity's opinion: A celebrity endorses a product, and you buy it based on their fame, not their expertise in that product category.
• Misplaced expertise: A famous physicist gives an opinion on a medical issue. You accept the opinion because of their scientific authority, even though medicine is not their field.
• Ignoring expert consensus: A single person's opinion is cited as proof against the overwhelming consensus of experts in a field, like a single nurse's opinion about vaccines overriding the consensus of immunologists.

 

[Chihuahua]

Oh, the third example perfectly fits too.

 

[rvmb]

How would a Master's degree have any relevance in pointing out this person's expertise is in another field?

Google:
The appeal to authority fallacy is a logical error that occurs when a claim is accepted as true simply because an authority figure says it is, rather than based on the strength of the evidence. It's fallacious because the authority cited is often not a legitimate expert in the field, is biased, or there is no expert consensus. While it's important to trust experts, this fallacy incorrectly assumes that an individual's authority alone is sufficient proof for their claim.

Examples of the fallacy

• Using a celebrity's opinion: A celebrity endorses a product, and you buy it based on their fame, not their expertise in that product category.
• Misplaced expertise: A famous physicist gives an opinion on a medical issue. You accept the opinion because of their scientific authority, even though medicine is not their field.
• Ignoring expert consensus: A single person's opinion is cited as proof against the overwhelming consensus of experts in a field, like a single nurse's opinion about vaccines overriding the consensus of immunologists.

No PhD, no Doctorate, no Masters.
Do you have an Assoc or Bach in anything ?

 

[Chihuahua]

No PhD, no Doctorate, no Masters.
Do you have an Assoc or Bach in anything ?

Did I say I did not have any degrees? Are you betting on me admitting I don't have anything beyond a High School education as if that refutes it? I just showed the logical fallacy and you aren't addressing it. Whether or not a have advanced degrees has no relevance.