How many former Catholics are here?

[amigo de christo]

At a different forum long ago, I knew a missionary to the Mormons. He even moved to Utah to be able to minister to them.

And he did tell me about some of their secret practices including their underwear with symbols on it.

Another place that must be exposed . And there are many places now
within the realm called christendom that are in trouble and
they so call worship God through the bad doctrines of men . Its all in vain .
And they must be warned . most will reject , but some will hear and repent .
And we know not who will repent . We warn all and who so ev er hears amen
and who so ever rejects we will not have fellowship with . The biblical pattern
is not only a good one , ITS THE ONLY ONE we should have learned and followed .
I KNOW the apostels walked with JESUS and I KNOW His words BE TRUTH as HE IS TRUTH .
We need an all out return to the scriptures to be refreshed and stirred up by way of remembering .

 

[amigo de christo]

I am pretty sure us Catholics believe Jesus is God. You and anyone else are welcome to witness to me.

I don't know how the Mormons found me. I have nothing to do with them at all. I sarcastically replied to a spam email requesting how I can acquire their temple underwear:
"We have received a request for a missionary visit from a response to a Come Unto Christ email campaign. RESPONDENT WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT TEMPLE GARMENTS. Below you will find the contact details."

Go to and behold .
This people draws nigh to me with their mouth but their heart is far from me .
Suprise , surprise , EVEN THE DEVILS BELEIVE .
I see wicked f ruits and doctrines in many places ,NOT JUST THE RCC either , but in most all of even the protestant realm .
MANY have been decieved and they worship GOD in vain through the precepts of men gone wrong .
Always adding too or taking from THE TRUTH , THE GOSPEL . ITS all in vain .
What we need is a serious return to the bible to learn for ourselves
what it is that many leaders in christendom no longer teach . TRUTH .

 

[amigo de christo]

I wouldn't say since the day of HER conception...
since I don't know when you believe that is.
The rest can be true since there is fear of mentioning hell in the CC
and sometimes this is necessary.

What a lovely thing to say . YES i do need to make conceptoin clear .
I was no speaking of the conception of the true church
but the conceptoin of corruption .
We were warned that men would creep in and lead this people astray .
That there would even b e many who do this .
The church , the true church does not sit in such a place for long .
IF a new one comes in , even they will not have peace and as the learn more and grow
WILL SOON SEE WHY they do not have peace . They will leave .
And if one comes to faith in CHRIST in such a place
Again they will begin to feel unease . THEY WILL SOON SEE why that was as well .
And as far as those who DO know better, ITS OUR DUTY to warn and to remind folks
in such places to get out and get in their bible to learn .
BUT they lied to us . THEY said and sold a lie to us that we are to remain .
NOT if them leaders wont repent . I mean its not like i can walk into
any church of the RCC or PROTESTANTS and say HEY I AM TAKING OVER YOUR CHURCHES and you need
to repent and get out . They OWN them buildings .
ALL i can do is warn folks trapped in such places to get out . To learn CHRIST , to learn the scriptures
and to follow and keep the ORIGINAL DOCTRINE and pattern that was
DELIVERED US BY THOSE MEN , and written f or us to learn and to keep that pattern .
MY FRIEND its the ONLY pattern that does work . IT WAS INSPIRED BY GOD HIMSELF through them men .
JESUS knows HOW to keep one safe and from falling
AND HE gave us the pattern which we are to keep BY THE HOLY GHOST .

 

[Brakelite]

Hi Deb.
Nice thread.


I am also a former Catholic.

Why did I leave that church?
Because it had nothing for me.
It's better today, but the teachings are still a bit muddled.

However, I will protect the CC from all the nonsense that goes on in these forums...
all the lies that are told about it.

And, yes, it was the ORIGINAL church.
No other denomination around back then.

I'd like to offer a little history lesson... First , the "original" church was Jerusalem, and by the time Jerusalem was destroyed in 70ad, Christians had spread the faith to Pella, Antioch, North Africa, Asia Minor, and Italy. There was no Catholic Church. The church was Christs, He was the Head, there was no overall hierarchal authority, each city having it's own elders and operated independently of each other. True, there were no denominations, but there were numerous independent mission minded assemblies who were rapidly spreading the gospel throughout the known world. The Catholic Church as you said previously, didn't develop until the 5th or 6th century, and was the epitome and central pivot point of the falling away spoken of by Paul in his letter to the Thessalonians. It was never an original church, but a Johnny come lately who grew out of one branch of Christ s and through political intrigue and compulsion, brought other churches under a usurped authority to Lord itself over others. But there was resistance. Hence why the Catholic Church became so well known and feared as a persecuting power.

 

[amigo de christo]

I'd like to offer a little history lesson... First , the "original" church was Jerusalem, and by the time Jerusalem was destroyed in 70ad, Christians had spread the faith to Pella, Antioch, North Africa, Asia Minor, and Italy. There was no Catholic Church. The church was Christs, He was the Head, there was no overall hierarchal authority, each city having it's own elders and operated independently of each other. True, there were no denominations, but there were numerous independent mission minded assemblies who were rapidly spreading the gospel throughout the known world. The Catholic Church as you said previously, didn't develop until the 5th or 6th century, and was the epitome and central pivot point of the falling away spoken of by Paul in his letter to the Thessalonians. It was never an original church, but a Johnny come lately who grew out of one branch of Christ s and through political intrigue and compulsion, brought other churches under a usurped authority to Lord itself over others. But there was resistance. Hence why the Catholic Church became so well known and feared as a persecuting power.

Yep .
What was the key downfall . Specially when they did what .
TIED THE RELIGION INTO POLITICS .
Yeah brakelite . But how come i dont hear anyone
warning the prostestant nar realm and scores of others
ATTACHED TO this donald trump and them poltiics , BEING WARNED AGAINST .
Constantine and others were men of political realms .
LOOK at what occured . SOLD OUT and worse began supporting and using govts
TO SHED BLOOD against those who would not conform .
And we see this not just in the UNHOLY RCC
but look at what protestants did as they too merged their religion into politics
THEY TOO used govt to put to death catholics and etc .
WELL HISTORY SURE DOES REPEAT .
and on a global scale now and all under an ecuemincal cup of a HARLOT .
WE are being seduced , lied too by this great merger and its men who do its work
WHICH ARE ON BOTH SIDES . WE gots to GET OUT of any place
tied into ecumeincalism
tied into govts , politicians and etc . GET OUT i say , GET OUT and do not look back .

 

[David in NJ]

I am glad I brought my chapter on Galoshes.


I lied? Where did I claim I was intelligent? There is a thing called the Dunning-Kreuger Effect. So if I think I am smart, I am not.

I was quoting Forrest Gump.

You punning with "Galoshes" is directed at the Scriptures = not me

1Corinthians 1:19 - from Strong's

it is written:
γέγραπται (gegraptai)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Middle or Passive - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 1125: A primary verb; to 'grave', especially to write; figuratively, to describe.

“I will destroy
Ἀπολῶ (Apolō)
Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's Greek 622: From apo and the base of olethros; to destroy fully, literally or figuratively.

the
τὴν (tēn)
Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

wisdom
σοφίαν (sophian)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4678: Wisdom, insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence. From sophos; wisdom.

of the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

wise;
σοφῶν (sophōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 4680: Wise, learned, cultivated, skilled, clever. Akin to saphes; wise.

the
τὴν (tēn)
Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

intelligence
σύνεσιν (synesin)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4907: From suniemi; a mental putting together, i.e. Intelligence or the intellect.

of the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

intelligent
συνετῶν (synetōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 4908: Intelligent, prudent, wise, understanding, discerning. From suniemi; mentally put together, i.e. Sagacious.

I will frustrate.”
ἀθετήσω (athetēsō)
Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's Greek 114: From a compound of a and a derivative of tithemi; to set aside, i.e. to disesteem, neutralize or violate.

 

[amigo de christo]

The commandment of the 7th Day is ONLY kept in the LORD of the Sabbath

If a man or woman has not entered into THAT REST i dont care what they try and do
ITS ALL IN VAIN .
And that REST i speak of
IS THE TRUE SABBATH REST OF GOD GIVEN ONLY IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
so they can go on and labor and toil to keep everything they d esire , BUT ITS ALL IN VAIN
for them .
HERE IS THE SABBATH REST GIVEN OF GOD . HERE IS WHO IT IS and WHAT IT DOES .
COME YE UNTO ME , ALL YOU who do labor and are weary , and ye shall find REST for your SOULS .
THE WHO IS JESUS . Now some might see that as blasphemy .
BUT PUAL KNEW exactly WHO THIS WAS when he too warned the hebrews
STRIVE TO ENTER INTO THAT REST , lest ye FALL after the same example of ............UNBELEIF .
PAUL WAS DARN sure POINTING THEM TO JESUS .
I HAVE absolutely NO DOUBT about that . JESUS IS THAT REST . HE IS the TRUE SABBATH REST OF GOD ALL MIGHTY .

 

[David in NJ]

If a man or woman has not entered into THAT REST i dont care what they try and do
ITS ALL IN VAIN .
And that REST i speak of
IS THE TRUE SABBATH REST OF GOD GIVEN ONLY IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
so they can go on and labor and toil to keep everything they d esire , BUT ITS ALL IN VAIN
for them .
HERE IS THE SABBATH REST GIVEN OF GOD . HERE IS WHO IT IS and WHAT IT DOES .
COME YE UNTO ME , ALL YOU who do labor and are weary , and ye shall find REST for your SOULS .
THE WHO IS JESUS . Now some might see that as blasphemy .
BUT PUAL KNEW exactly WHO THIS WAS when he too warned the hebrews
STRIVE TO ENTER INTO THAT REST , lest ye FALL after the same example of ............UNBELEIF .
PAUL WAS DARN sure POINTING THEM TO JESUS .
I HAVE absolutely NO DOUBT about that . JESUS IS THAT REST . HE IS the TRUE SABBATH REST OF GOD ALL MIGHTY .

My Brother, we are SEEING with our very Eyes and HEARING with our very Ears = those lacking oil = Matt 25:1-13

They have not the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and they have been taught to despise HIM and to accept a counterfeit.

 

[amigo de christo]

My Brother, we are SEEING with our very Eyes and HEARING with our very Ears = those lacking oil = Matt 25:1-13

They have not the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and they have been taught to despise HIM and to accept a counterfeit.

many run to and embrace that which is of the f lesh .
But not so with the sheep of HIS pasture .
They follow The Great and mighty , the Worthy and worthy of all praise , KING JESUS .
Who said
I AM the WAY , THE TRUTH and THE LIFE and no man cometh unto the Father but by Me .
And the sheep know , and know by grace , something that many in wool whose lips draw nigh but hearts are far away from GOD do not know , ,
that HE said MY WORDS
He made mention about HIS WORDS .
MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT and THEY ARE LIFE .
And he who cometh to me and DOES NOT what i say , is a like a man
that set his house upon sand ...........................OH that HOUSE IS GOING DOWN , IT HAS NO FOUNDATION at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

My Brother, we are SEEING with our very Eyes and HEARING with our very Ears = those lacking oil = Matt 25:1-13

They have not the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and they have been taught to despise HIM and to accept a counterfeit.

MY sheep HEAR MY VOICE
said Jesus to the unbeliving jews .
YE hear NOT for you are NOT MY SHEEP .
Something much of even christendom , MIGHT TRY and claim they are
But .................
oh yes there is a but and its a big ol but too .
But upon l ooking at how they treat and twist His words , IT IS DARN clear
THEY HEAR HIM NOT .

 

[amigo de christo]

My sheep hear my voice .
I am THE TRUTH , THE WAY , And THE LIFE .
SEEING GOD IS TRUTH and is not man that HE can lie
WHY is it so many who t hink they hear from GOD sure seem to love a lie .
THIS DID NOT abraham .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH , T RUTH , T RUTH
all that are of the TRUTH , come to ME .
Take note that did not say ALL WHO LOVED A LIE come TO ME . Or all who love TO TWIST MY WORDS come or came TO ME .
TRUTH IS TRUTH and many darn sure DONT seem to have LOVE FOR THE TRUTH .
Many have a love , and its a love for twisted and omitted t ruths . But twisted and omi tted t ruths
ARE NOT THE TRUTH , but the work of another god who has come in his own name
WHO twistes the truth .

 

[BreadOfLife]

John 1:1 = In the beginning was the Word was with God and the Word was God.

The is Scriptural truth.

There is NO such thing as “Oral” Scriptura.

Which is why many Jews AND catholics AND protestants PERISH = Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

Because we don’t believe in a false premise?
Oral is that which is spoken. “Scriptura” is that which is written down.

Sounds like YOU need a lesson in basic Latin . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oral tradition is a tenet.

Yes it is .
Buit, “Oral Scriptura” is a contradiction in terms - as I already showed you.

And the following scriptures do not support your argument. What a surprise.

Since it is an Almah in Isaiah 7:14, is it and oral tradition that Mary was a virgin or was it part the original LXX and Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures. I see much LXX material in the NT that doesn't exist anymore. Carest thou to explain oral tradition helps?

Mary’s virginity is a Scriptural fact.
It was foretold in Isaiah 7:14 – and was fulfilled in Luke 1:26-34.

NOT dure what you’re getting at here . . .

 

[David in NJ]

The is Scriptural truth.

There is NO such thing as “Oral” Scriptura.

Because we don’t believe in a false premise?
Oral is that which is spoken. “Scriptura” is that which is written down.

Sounds like YOU need a lesson in basic Latin . . .

KEEP in your mind when we interact that i was fully raised, educated, ordained and PRACTICED in faith as a RCC member

Instead of bantering back and forth

What is more important to you?

If you had to choose between the Scriptures and the Vatican =
which one do you embrace?
which one do you subjugate?

 

[Marvelloustime]

My sheep hear my voice .
I am THE TRUTH , THE WAY , And THE LIFE .
SEEING GOD IS TRUTH and is not man that HE can lie
WHY is it so many who t hink they hear from GOD sure seem to love a lie .
THIS DID NOT abraham .
For this reason was i born and for this reason came i into the world
to TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH , T RUTH , T RUTH
all that are of the TRUTH , come to ME .
Take note that did not say ALL WHO LOVED A LIE come TO ME . Or all who love TO TWIST MY WORDS come or came TO ME .
TRUTH IS TRUTH and many darn sure DONT seem to have LOVE FOR THE TRUTH .
Many have a love , and its a love for twisted and omitted t ruths . But twisted and omi tted t ruths
ARE NOT THE TRUTH , but the work of another god who has come in his own name
WHO twistes the truth .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

My Brother, we are SEEING with our very Eyes and HEARING with our very Ears = those lacking oil = Matt 25:1-13

They have not the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and they have been taught to despise HIM and to accept a counterfeit.

Many there be which are as the idol . they have eyes but see not , ears but hear not .

 

[amigo de christo]

KEEP in your mind when we interact that i was fully raised, educated, ordained and PRACTICED in faith as a RCC member

Instead of bantering back and forth

What is more important to you?

If you had to choose between the Scriptures and the Vatican =
which one do you embrace?
which one do you subjugate?

you know my answer . Scripture and FLEE the unholy vatican which does naught but twist the scrips .

 

[Marvelloustime]

MY sheep HEAR MY VOICE
said Jesus to the unbeliving jews .
YE hear NOT for you are NOT MY SHEEP .
Something much of even christendom , MIGHT TRY and claim they are
But .................
oh yes there is a but and its a big ol but too .
But upon l ooking at how they treat and twist His words , IT IS DARN clear
THEY HEAR HIM NOT .

@amigo de christo

 

[JesusFan]

Can you please give your testimony of being born again and leaving the Catholic Church? Thanks.

Too bad so many more have chosen to stay in Rome

 

[BreadOfLife]

KEEP in your mind when we interact that i was fully raised, educated, ordained and PRACTICED in faith as a RCC member

I can tell right away that this isn’t true.

If you were educated AND ordained – you would know better than to refer to it as the “RCC”.

Instead of bantering back and forth
What is more important to you?

If you had to choose between the Scriptures and the Vatican =
which one do you embrace?
which one do you subjugate?

Once again – if you had actually been educated in the Catholic faith – AND ordained into the clergy – you would KNOW that this question is a moot point to a Catholic.