Flat Earth Theory

[Chihuahua]

another erroneous assumption not based on the evidence given

You are saying that is not what you wrote even though you wrote it?

NEVER once in my posts or anyone else, is the correct of the shape of the earth granting entrance into the Kingdom of God.

Intentional lying and manipulating the scientific evidence of Creation will in fact, bring the Wrath of God upon such people.

And all of creationist mythology rests upon ignoring all evidence contrary to it. You'll find more lies in support of the support of the creationist myth than grains of sand in the Sahara.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse. - Romans 1:18-20

You mean like Creationists who resort of lies and misdirection?

 

[David in NJ]

You are saying that is not what you wrote even though you wrote it?


And all of creationist mythology rests upon ignoring all evidence contrary to it. You'll find more lies in support of the support of the creationist myth than grains of sand in the Sahara.


You mean like Creationists who resort of lies and misdirection?

Thank you for demonstrating how 1 John 5:19 true = even though i already KNEW

 

[Chihuahua]

Thank you for demonstrating how 1 John 5:19 true = even though i already KNEW

While 1 John 5:19 is true, what I wrote does not demonstrate it.

 

[David in NJ]

While 1 John 5:19 is true, what I wrote does not demonstrate it.

Sure it does, as you have been on a continuous course to belittle much of what GOD has Said in His Word.

This Christmas season give yourself to reading the Gospel of John and pray before you open to it, pray while you are reading
and pray when you finish each time you read.
Get yourself a new journal and write down your questions and anything you see or desire to know.

In time God will answer IF you are truly seeking to know the Way the Truth and the Life.

7“Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord,
And whose hope is the Lord.
8For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters,
Which spreads out its roots by the river,
And will not fear when heat comes;
But its leaf will be green,
And will not be anxious in the year of drought,
Nor will cease from yielding fruit.
9“The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
10I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

 

[Chihuahua]

In time God will answer IF you are truly seeking to know the Way the Truth and the Life.

The truth is evolution and God is also the truth.

 

[Lizbeth]

The scripture I posted clearly disagrees with you. Christ preached to the masses while his disciples listened. The did not understand any better than the masses because they had not yet received the Holy Spirit. When someone claims that Christ revealed something to them, that something should not contradict scripture.

Mark 4:33-34
"And with many such parables He was speaking the word to them, as they were able to hear it; and He was not speaking to them without a parable; but He was explaining everything privately to His own disciples.

"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
Hebrews 4

Splitting hairs?
God chose every word that he delivered to the Prophets and Apostles with precision.
Christ likewise spoke with precision, even when He spoke in parables.

We should use that same precision when we claim to speak on His behalf, or when we say "God told me this" or "Christ revealed that"

Christ did not teach his disciples with parables.
Christ does not speak to us in parables.
Christ explained with crystal clarity why He taught in parables.

Being one of those to whom Christ is speaking to with parables is not something to rejoice about.

If Christ is still speaking to us in parables, we've got far bigger problems than the shape of the earth.

I'm not splitting hairs sister, neither am I being unkind.
Were the shoe on the other foot, I would hope that you loved me enough to point out my misunderstanding.

The scripture I posted clearly disagrees with you. Christ preached to the masses while his disciples listened. The did not understand any better than the masses because they had not yet received the Holy Spirit. When someone claims that Christ revealed something to them, that something should not contradict scripture.

Mark 4:33-34
"And with many such parables He was speaking the word to them, as they were able to hear it; and He was not speaking to them without a parable; but He was explaining everything privately to His own disciples.

"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
Hebrews 4

Splitting hairs?
God chose every word that he delivered to the Prophets and Apostles with precision.
Christ likewise spoke with precision, even when He spoke in parables.

We should use that same precision when we claim to speak on His behalf, or when we say "God told me this" or "Christ revealed that"

Christ did not teach his disciples with parables.
Christ does not speak to us in parables.
Christ explained with crystal clarity why He taught in parables.

Being one of those to whom Christ is speaking to with parables is not something to rejoice about.

If Christ is still speaking to us in parables, we've got far bigger problems than the shape of the earth.

I'm not splitting hairs sister, neither am I being unkind.
Were the shoe on the other foot, I would hope that you loved me enough to point out my misunderstanding.

So all the parables that Jesus spoke and are written in the gospels were not written for us believers then? Should we ignore them then? How about all those examples of biblical allegories I gave you...should we ignore them too, along with all the many allegories in the bible I didn't point out? That wouldn't leave much of the bible left for believers.

And Jesus is alive and He STILL speaks to us in parables.....eg, dreams, visions, can be full of symbolism/allegory.

 

[David in NJ]

The truth is evolution and God is also the truth.

That is exactly what Satan wants you to believe!!!

 

[Chihuahua]

Satan wants me to believe God is truth?

 

[David in NJ]

Satan wants me to believe God is truth?

Satan wants you to doubt God's words by joining yourself to evolution.

GOD Said evolution is a lie from Satan = Hebrews 11:1-3

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

 

[Chihuahua]

Satan wants you to doubt God's words by joining yourself to evolution.

I am not doubting God's Word (singular, the bible is the Word of God not words). I do not believe in the creation mythology created by men. What is said in scripture is true, but God popping in life on a day by day basis is unlikely and doesn't make sense.

GOD Said evolution is a lie from Satan = Hebrews 11:1-3

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

 

[Simple Dan]

So all the parables that Jesus spoke and are written in the gospels were not written for us believers then? Should we ignore them then? How about all those examples of biblical allegories I gave you...should we ignore them too, along with all the many allegories in the bible I didn't point out? That wouldn't leave much of the bible left for believers.

And Jesus is alive and He STILL speaks to us in parables.....eg, dreams, visions, can be full of symbolism/allegory.

I think I made my point. I'm sorry that in doing so you have become offended. Christ spoke in parables to those who were hard of heart and hard of hearing. He expounded most of these parables to His disciples, which was recorded for our benefit. Christ does not speak to His children in parables, but to those who are perishing, for reasons clearly stated in the text.

For those parables which were not explained in the text, He left us His Holy Spirit to open our hearts and minds to understand them.

Other than the parables, I see no allegory in the scriptures, if you do, please point them out to me. Concerning dreams and visions, much of what people claim to be dreams and visions, in all likelihood were nothing more than the physiological leftovers of the greasy pizza they had for dinner. And while I do not dismiss the notion that God still speaks through dreams and visions in this time, I seriously doubt the average Christians ability to properly discern their meaning.

I wasn't trying to start an argument, but to correct a misunderstanding you may have had, clearly revealed by the text, which is our only reliable source of truth. If your reading of the text leads you to another conclusion, that's between you and Christ.

Again, the text is clear, Christ did not speak to His disciples in parables, but to those who were hard of heart and hearing. He clearly stated His reason for doing so. And He later revealed the meaning of those parables to His disciples privately, because without yet having received the Holy Spirit it was necessary to do so. If you are convinced that Christ continues to speak to you in parables, then who am I to tell you otherwise? Though I would hope that you allow Christ speak to you through His word, and trust in His word, more than some feeling you may have had which is contrary to His word.

 

[David in NJ]

I am not doubting God's Word (singular, the bible is the Word of God not words). I do not believe in the creation mythology created by men. What is said in scripture is true, but God popping in life on a day by day basis is unlikely and doesn't make sense.

Well you can remain as you are or you can take the advice given you and seek the LORD by praying, reading and believing.

Start tonight

 

[Chihuahua]

Well you can remain as you are or you can take the advice given you and seek the LORD by praying, reading and believing.

Start tonight

I am going to continue to believe in God, believe what God has revealed to mankind, believe the revelation received by men with the inspiration of God, and continue to consider man-made creationism mythology as exactly what it is - poppycock.

 

[David in NJ]

I am going to continue to believe in God, believe what God has revealed to mankind, believe the revelation received by men with the inspiration of God, and continue to consider man-made creationism mythology as exactly what it is - poppycock.

You can remain as you are.

i wouldn't, but that is because i love the Holy Spirit of Truth and My FATHER's Word

 

[Chihuahua]

You can remain as you are.

i wouldn't, but that is because i love the Holy Spirit of Truth and My FATHER's Word

I am glad you have the ability to perfectly understand God's will if you believe GOD CARES on this issue.

 

[Psalm-147:3]

Psalm...
Just saw this.
Stars fall??

I've never heard of this.
I think you mean that meteors streak across the sky and to us it looks like something is falling.
Certainly sometimes these meteors hit the earth.
We call them "falling stars" but they really are not stars.

Well God says stars can fall. So we can read it, and also observe it happening.

“It grew up to the host of heaven and caused some of the host and some of the stars to fall to the earth, and it trampled them down. (Daniel 8:10)

“But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Matthew 24:29)

“AND THE STARS WILL BE FALLING from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. (Mark 13:25)

“The third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters. (Revelation 8:10)

“The name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter. (Revelation 8:11)

 

[Psalm-147:3]

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Cool, so you are able to speak on behalf of Satan?


Creationism doesn't have any factual proof.


So is creationist mythologhy support by science or not? Now you are suggesting it needs to be revealed

You do not believe that God created everything? Creation proofs a creator. Do you believe you came out of nothing and are a coincidence? God's Word is not proof to you? Is not enough? That's very sad to read. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. By God. Not nature or evolution.

 

[soberxp]

Selenelions pretty much prove that the shadows on the moon can not be created by the earth.

That poor guy in the video just witnessed that very phenomenon, and evidently confused of what he has witnessed, he is trying to make sense of it (from 1:10 onwards).

So, whatever it is that created the shadow on the moon, it is not consistent with the whole model we are being presented with.

What's so strange about that? I've witnessed many times the phenomenon where the moon and the sun appear together.

 

[Chihuahua]

Well God says stars can fall. So we can read it, and also observe it happening.

God states that stars can fall? No, we do not observe that happened because stars do not fall. What we observe are objects burning up partially or completely in the atmosphere.

“It grew up to the host of heaven and caused some of the host and some of the stars to fall to the earth, and it trampled them down. (Daniel 8:10)

That is a vision. We can go and pull meteorites. If a star fell to Earth, we'd be dead.

 

[Chihuahua]

You do not believe that God created everything? Creation proofs a creator. Do you believe you came out of nothing and are a coincidence? God's Word is not proof to you? Is not enough? That's very sad to read. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. By God. Not nature or evolution.

What God reveals in His Word is not the same as what a person does with it.