Do We Have A Religious Christianity Today Mixed with the Real Church (The church is a group of people, known by God)

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I think we do, it's always the same 2 seeds, seen in Genesis. It's in the world, and in the church. This system, It leans towards legalism, doctrines, methods, habits, formalities and other things similar to this.

The problem with doctrinal Christianity, is that it has huge gaps, and lacks in intimacy/relationship with God, as a person. Those involved in it are good people, that know the text, but not necessarily the creator. Similar to the Pharisee. this is why Paul says "Examine yourself, to see if you are in Christ"

Basically it reduces Christianity to a religion, thus the evidence of religious Christianity seen in the world today. I can speak by my experience of God, His great mercy and grace, resulting in my freedom, that this is not true, outside of lone text evidence.

Here is my Story:

I'm alone, sitting at the kitchen table, it starts to rain. Suddenly I hear that same voice I heard so many years ago, in the 70's. (I'm just going to share bits and pieces here, and not in the order of the conversation) ...

He says, you notice the rain drops, how they are different one from the other? I say Lord I have no idea, only you know. He says and you're different. I start to weep. He says Not like that! I'm not talking about your face.

He says you are like a piece of fruit in a bowl with many other pieces of fruit (He means Christians). But you are the worst piece of fruit in the bowl. Why do you believe what you believe and who taught you (NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION).

It is not your job to change yourself, that is MY JOB! You are the sheep, I am the shepherd, you are the field, I am the farmer. You are the vine; I am the vinedresser. You are not to judge yourself, nor are you to look for things to judge yourself about, or things in yourself you think need to change. That is all up to me.

When I have something, I want to change in your life, I will bring it to your attention and all you have to do is agree with me. Do you have a problem with me using sin, to accomplish my will?

A few days later. He says why don't you tell me the truth about your sin? I say what truth, that Jesus died and rose? Then He makes me see this truth about myself that I did not know, until He revealed it.

I had a besetting sin in my life, a daily failure for 30+ years. I had tried everything, I even fasted once for 30 days. Now He is asking me to tell Him about it, what does He mean by the truth... Suddenly I see it clearly. I love this sin. Note: Yet He is not afraid of sin, He can fix that, and everything else too. The most important thing is believing in Him, being born again, in Spirit.

So, I said God please don't bother me about this sin, leave me alone with it for I love it. I confessed this for 3 days and then found myself completely free. No temptation, no failure. Just free, that was almost 20 years ago.
 

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There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

1:12
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him
 

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Do We Have A Religious Christianity Today Mixed with the Real Church (The church is a group of people, known by God)

Nothing new regarding the “Audience”…attending a Church..
Everyone Welcome
Some are members
Some are visitors
Some listen
Some fidget and talk
Some exchange niceties
Some gossip
Some believe
Some do not believe
Some are pleasant
Some are rude

Probably the Biggest changing shock..
IS concerning they holding the position of Cleric…
Who do Not Believe
Who are hypocrites
Who preach opposition to Gods Word is Acceptable.

Glory to God,
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Nothing new regarding the “Audience”…attending a Church..
Everyone Welcome
Some are members
Some are visitors
Some listen
Some fidget and talk
Some exchange niceties
Some gossip
Some believe
Some do not believe
Some are pleasant
Some are rude

I guess I would chalk that up to everyone is an individual with their own experiences
and they are all at different places on their path to God.
 
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I think we do, it's always the same 2 seeds, seen in Genesis. It's in the world, and in the church. This system, It leans towards legalism, doctrines, methods, habits, formalities and other things similar to this.

The problem with doctrinal Christianity, is that it has huge gaps, and lacks in intimacy/relationship with God, as a person. Those involved in it are good people, that know the text, but not necessarily the creator. Similar to the Pharisee. this is why Paul says "Examine yourself, to see if you are in Christ"

Basically it reduces Christianity to a religion, thus the evidence of religious Christianity seen in the world today. I can speak by my experience of God, His great mercy and grace, resulting in my freedom, that this is not true, outside of lone text evidence.

Here is my Story:

I'm alone, sitting at the kitchen table, it starts to rain. Suddenly I hear that same voice I heard so many years ago, in the 70's. (I'm just going to share bits and pieces here, and not in the order of the conversation) ...

He says, you notice the rain drops, how they are different one from the other? I say Lord I have no idea, only you know. He says and you're different. I start to weep. He says Not like that! I'm not talking about your face.

He says you are like a piece of fruit in a bowl with many other pieces of fruit (He means Christians). But you are the worst piece of fruit in the bowl. Why do you believe what you believe and who taught you (NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION).

It is not your job to change yourself, that is MY JOB! You are the sheep, I am the shepherd, you are the field, I am the farmer. You are the vine; I am the vinedresser. You are not to judge yourself, nor are you to look for things to judge yourself about, or things in yourself you think need to change. That is all up to me.

When I have something, I want to change in your life, I will bring it to your attention and all you have to do is agree with me. Do you have a problem with me using sin, to accomplish my will?

A few days later. He says why don't you tell me the truth about your sin? I say what truth, that Jesus died and rose? Then He makes me see this truth about myself that I did not know, until He revealed it.

I had a besetting sin in my life, a daily failure for 30+ years. I had tried everything, I even fasted once for 30 days. Now He is asking me to tell Him about it, what does He mean by the truth... Suddenly I see it clearly. I love this sin. Note: Yet He is not afraid of sin, He can fix that, and everything else too. The most important thing is believing in Him, being born again, in Spirit.

So, I said God please don't bother me about this sin, leave me alone with it for I love it. I confessed this for 3 days and then found myself completely free. No temptation, no failure. Just free, that was almost 20 years ago.
Yes Jesus is with 1 religion( 1Cor 1:10)- Unity of thought( all of Gods truth) no division)))- Its the one that is different, ( no part of this world) thus unaccepted by the majority. Jesus said they would be hated because the world hated him first. Hated him enough to murder him and his followers back then.
A mortal must put forth their very best ability to learn and apply Jesus' Fathers will( Matthew 7:21)
 

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I dont believe the bride of christ that made the church which the apostles governed over exist on earth today.

I do believe that people that are in church revert a lot back to using the commandments as something that must be taken in to heart... while Jesus fulfilled them and its all about faith and love.

Many church use FEAR as a tactic, and also MUST TITHE, to get money there is a lot of superficially fake churches out there...

Thats my opinion.
 

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I dont believe the bride of christ that made the church which the apostles governed over exist on earth today.

I do believe that people that are in church revert a lot back to using the commandments as something that must be taken in to heart... while Jesus fulfilled them and its all about faith and love.

Many church use FEAR as a tactic, and also MUST TITHE, to get money there is a lot of superficially fake churches out there...

Thats my opinion.
There are a few on Earth today. Like the apostles who were appointed by Jesus, he appoints those on the Earth today as well. Its these who get changed in the twinkling of an eye during the tribulation.
Yes 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian are false.
 

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There are a few on Earth today. Like the apostles who were appointed by Jesus, he appoints those on the Earth today as well. Its these who get changed in the twinkling of an eye during the tribulation.
Yes 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian are false.
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Most religions do not teach what Jesus actually teaches. I share those teachings and most refuse to believe Jesus over dogmas. Even though the teachings are in every translation on Earth. Think about that.
 

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Most religions do not teach what Jesus actually teaches. I share those teachings and most refuse to believe Jesus over dogmas. Even though the teachings are in every translation on Earth. Think about that.
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