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What comment did Pastor Richard Jordan make that you disagree with ?
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What comment did Pastor Richard Jordan make that you disagree with ?
Yes I know it wasnt Jordan I went to their website and Jordan is on it
Jordan said Jesus didnt know he was the Son of God which undermines his diety
Here are a few better teachers if interested
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By the way Rick Jordan from SW Bible Fellowship isnt Richard Jordan
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Grace Ambassadors >> Justin JohnsonYes I know it wasnt Jordan I went to their website and Jordan is on it
Jordan said Jesus didnt know he was the Son of God which undermines his diety
Here are a few better teachers if interested
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Welcome to the YouTube of Southwest Bible Fellowship in Tempe, Arizona. We are a group of people who are committed to living the grace life as set forth by the apostle of the Gentiles, the apostle Paul. For any questions or to make a comment please email us through our web site listed below.
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By the way Rick Jordan from SW Bible Fellowship isnt Richard Jordan
SWBF > Butnow org
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""Jordan said Jesus didnt know he was the Son of God which undermines his diety""
Please cite where Shorewood Bible Church > Pastor Richard Jordan stated that ?
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Yes, this is pretty good, but just one person, Justin Johnson.Grace Ambassadors
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I mostly prefer BereanBibleSociety.org because of:
"...In the multitude of counselors there is safety..." (Proverbs 11:14 AV)
Amen.
It is documented on the internet and said in his sermons Sorry I dont know where but here is a website to checkGrace Ambassadors >> Justin Johnson
SWBF > Butnow org
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""Jordan said Jesus didnt know he was the Son of God which undermines his diety""
Please cite where Shorewood Bible Church > Pastor Richard Jordan stated that ?
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THEY SURE DID , it was called the gospel . sadly many no longer preach that mystery , that gospel .
but rather another mystery , the mystery of inquity which has come to lead all away from the one true faith
by means of interreligious dialgoe of antichrists . TO the trenches one and all
the dire need for all to contend for the one true faith delivered long ago
IS MORE DIRE THAN E VER . many upon many decievers have entered in and now preach a false love
a unif ying force seen amongset the ecumeincal realm . AND IT LEADS THEM ALL TO THE LIE .
JESUS has been denied .
The mystery is more abundant than ever by virtue of the global awareness of it despite the deepest blindness to plain truth the world has ever known.
The mystery is that man might be united with his Creator and how this comes to be, and any who still consider it so mysterious only say so because they have yet to discover the nature of this truth. To those whom the truth has been revealed, it is our salvation.
The only obstruction to knowing truth is deception chosen for its appeal. In unity with God, one will abhor a lie.
The mystery is that man might be united with his Creator and how this comes to be, and any who still consider it so mysterious only say so because they have yet to discover the nature of this truth. To those whom the truth has been revealed, it is our salvation.
The only obstruction to knowing truth is deception chosen for its appeal. In unity with God, one will abhor a lie.
Please expound as to who is the "whom" to which it is revealed and what is revealed
I really dont know what you are talking about care to give a little more details about what you are saying
Truth cannot be spoon fed to one still in need of spiritual milk, such a one would vomit it up. If you are not able to differentiate between spiritual milk and the spiritual meat to which Paul referred, the only way to obtain it is to read the Bible in sincerity of seeking the truth.
Certainty of truth is something which coalesces among the abundance of evidence to support the validity, accuracy, and precision of every utterance of God.
Sarcasm is a mechanism of dismissal, ensnaring adherents within blindness to any idea the sarcastic person does not deem worthy of sufficient consideration for understanding of a differing perspective.
True words expand in application as they deepen in meaning, but such depth is inaccessible in the absence of proper pursuit (the methods of which can only be determined from within Scripture and through the practical personal experience which cements the veracity of His promises in what is called "the seal of the Spirit").
It is not my intent to demean, but to uplift, and my hope is that this might be accomplished through the inspiration of curiosity by display of my love for the Word and every one of them.
I hope that helps :)
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The Apostle Paul informs us that TO ALL THE NON-SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN WORLD, (those outside the true Church) the wisdom WE have is a "mystery." It's "hidden" from all who are not among the called and spirit-begotten. And God PRESDESTINED this enigma for "our glory" before ages even came into existence. God can hide truth out in the open where, without spiritual "glasses," it cannot be seen!
Panta di autou egeneta, kai choris autou egeneta oude hen ha gegonen.
Those are John's word choices in Koine Greek written in English which effectively translate to, "All things through Him (God/the Word) were created, and without Him not one thing that was created was created."
There is no such thing as "the non-spirit-begotten world."
God has provided us an abundance of words and it behooves us to use them with consideration for their lexical definitions, origins, roots, and contemporary applications. The introduction of new applications such as you suggest here are the manner of divisions which have given us denominationalism.
I gently suggest caution from a genuine love for the glory of the Word.
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Do people of the world have God's Holy Spirit? Pagans? Heathens? Muslims? Cults? Are they begotten of the Spirit?
True Believers are in the world, but not of the world (John 17:16-26) This world lies in the power of the wicked one; (1 John 5:19) he is the god of this world. (2 Cor. 4:4)
What is it to beget? And what among all that exists does not exist?
You think a god stands in opposition to the Almighty which displays a lack of reverence for His Majesty. Nothing opposes God but delusion. Nothing exists outside of God and all that He has created within Himself.
Does anyone living do so in the absence of God? What man alive today conducts his business without the breath of God present to animate his flesh?
You do not know how God sustains us or you would understand the error of your linguistic applications. Don't take offense to the notice of these mistakes, humble yourself and correct them.
If you want to know the truth, be certain of meaning. Look up the definitions of the words you use to ensure you use them properly. This will teach you much.
Helps/yes and no
Is this directed at something or some group?
Honestly its not presented simply enough for me to grasp
Not clear what you are saying but the mystery revealed to Paul was hid in himself until revealed to Paul. It wasnt found anywhere especially not in the prophets of scripture
All my words are aimed toward the service of God and directing a reader to Him by intent.
I do appreciate your honesty in that truth is by no means a simple thing to comprehend. What I draw you up toward is a higher use of language, the manner of utility demonstrated in Scripture, a grasp of the Word only attainable through the diligence of empassioned pursuit.
What you desire is the Spirit in truth and sincerity. What you require is direction. At present, as demonstrated by your expressions, you need only additional exposure to truth. The most trustworthy source thereof is the Bible. Draw from any available external reference as needed to bring alignment to every word of Scripture you can hold onto in your heart.
It is only through the storing up of His words in our hearts that we find the fulness of His joy everlasting.
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