WHEN IS THE LAST DAY?

[Doug]

[John 6:44 KJV] "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

When is the last day?

The last day is the day of the Lord, which occurs after the tribulation.........[Matthew 24:29 KJV] "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:".........The day of the Lord is when the sun and moon are darkened.......[Isaiah 13:9 KJV] "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."
[Isaiah 13:10 KJV] "For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."

[Revelation 20:4 KJV] "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.".........Those that were beheaded in the tribulation will be raised after the tribulation to live and reign with Christ That the beheaded tribulation saints would be included in the first resurrection could only mean that this occurs after the tribulation

[Revelation 20:6 KJV] "Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.".........The old testament saints and those who believed on the name of Jesus before Paul, are those who have part in the first resurrection. All who are resurrected in the first resurrection could not be raised before the tribulation saints were raised, so therefore the resurrection of the last day could only be accomplished after the tribulation.

 

[ScottA]

[John 6:44 KJV] "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

When is the last day?

The last day is the day of the Lord, which occurs after the tribulation.........[Matthew 24:29 KJV] "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:".........The day of the Lord is when the sun and moon are darkened.......[Isaiah 13:9 KJV] "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."
[Isaiah 13:10 KJV] "For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."

[Revelation 20:4 KJV] "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.".........Those that were beheaded in the tribulation will be raised after the tribulation to live and reign with Christ That the beheaded tribulation saints would be included in the first resurrection could only mean that this occurs after the tribulation

[Revelation 20:6 KJV] "Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.".........The old testament saints and those who believed on the name of Jesus before Paul, are those who have part in the first resurrection. All who are resurrected in the first resurrection could not be raised before the tribulation saints were raised, so therefore the resurrection of the last day could only be accomplished after the tribulation.

You (and most of all Christendom) are over-thinking it, or simply trying to put a heavenly event into a worldly timeline. A most common mistake of not "rightly dividing the word of truth."

Here is the answer: Do you know someone who has died recently? That was their "last day"--the day Jesus was referring to--the "day nor hour no one knows except the Father."

 

[saved by grace 101]

For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” John6:40

When is the last day?:

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Then I saw “a NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH,”[a] FOR THE FIRST HEAVEN AND THE FIRST EARTH HAD PASSED AWAY and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev20:11-15&21:1-4

The last day Jesus referred to is the last day of this present earth

 

[marks]

When is the last day?

Daniel 12:11-13 KJV
11) And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12) Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13) But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Much love!

 

[Doug]

The last day Jesus referred to is the last day of this present earth

Sorry but thats wrong
If the last day was the new heavens and earth that means no one is resurrected after the tribulation. No one is resurrected to enter the kingdom and reign with Christ for a thousand years.................
[Revelation 20:4 KJV] "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
[Revelation 20:6 KJV] "Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

 

[Doug]

Daniel 12:11-13 KJV
11) And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12) Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13) But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Much love!

I see this as being about the tribulation. The last day is at the end of the tribulation.

 

[saved by grace 101]

Sorry but thats wrong
If the last day was the new heavens and earth that means no one is resurrected after the tribulation. No one is resurrected to enter the kingdom and reign with Christ for a thousand years.................
[Revelation 20:4 KJV] "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
[Revelation 20:6 KJV] "Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

Im afraid it is correct, it refers to the last day of this present earth GWTJ, or the general resurrection of the dead at which time the new Jerusalem, the new heaven , which will be on this earth comes, hence there will be a new earth, for the first one passes away, that does not happen at the first resurrection

 

[marks]

I see this as being about the tribulation. The last day is at the end of the tribulation.

For me, "stand in thy lot" refers to being resurrected.

Much love!

 

[Doug]

Im afraid it is correct, it refers to the last day of this present earth GWTJ, or the general resurrection of the dead at which time the new Jerusalem, the new heaven , which will be on this earth comes, hence there will be a new earth, for the first one passes away, that does not happen at the first resurrection

[Revelation 20:5 KJV] "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection."

The wicked unbelieving dead will be raised at the end of the millennial kingdom on earth and face the great white throne

 

[saved by grace 101]

[Revelation 20:5 KJV] "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection."

The wicked unbelieving dead will be raised at the end of the millennial kingdom on earth and face the great white throne

Which resurrection brings the new Heaven and new earth where the first earth and the first Heaven pass away? For at that time, the last day of this present earth occurs!

 

[saved by grace 101]

[Revelation 20:5 KJV] "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection."

The wicked unbelieving dead will be raised at the end of the millennial kingdom on earth and face the great white throne

And BTW:
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. verse15
Obviously not only the wicked are being resurrected

 

[Doug]

For me, "stand in thy lot" refers to being resurrected.

Much love!

Lots were when they cast lots when they enquired of God

 

[Doug]

Which resurrection brings the new Heaven and new earth where the first earth and the first Heaven pass away? For at that time, the last day of this present earth occurs!

The resurrections of the just and unjust occur before the new heavens on earth
Read Revelations in order: Rev 20:4-6 Rev 20:11 Rev 21:1

 

[saved by grace 101]

The resurrections of the just and unjust occur before the new heavens on earth
Read Revelations in order: Rev 20:4-6 Rev 20:11 Rev 21:1

The new heaven and the new earth come at the second resurrection as is very plainly written, so, that is the last day of this present earth. Before the new Heaven and earth comes:
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Doug]

And BTW:
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. verse15
Obviously not only the wicked are being resurrected

[Revelation 20:5 KJV] "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection."...............The dead that werent raised in the first resurrection are raised after the thousand years
[Revelation 20:12 KJV] "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
[Revelation 20:15 KJV] "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."..............the book of life was opened in v12 and whosoever wasnt in it was cast into lake of fire

 

[saved by grace 101]

[Revelation 20:5 KJV] "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection."...............The dead that werent raised in the first resurrection are raised after the thousand years
[Revelation 20:12 KJV] "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
[Revelation 20:15 KJV] "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."..............the book of life was opened in v12 and whosoever wasnt in it was cast into lake of fire

I really dont know what you are arguing about, I will put the timeline up once more:
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

WHEN THAT HAS OCCURED, THIS FOLLOWS:

And I saw A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH FOR THE FIRST HEAVEN AND THE FIRST EARTH HAD PASSED AWAY: and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: FOR THE FORMER THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY

 

[Doug]

The new heaven and the new earth come at the second resurrection

The second resurrection is the wicked dead and then the new heavens and earth..........I agree with you
You are wrong about it being the last day. Jesus said those that believed in him would be raised at the last day....................[John 6:40 KJV] "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.".........THEREFORE that would mean the righteous are facing the great white throne and be cast into the lake of fire

 

[saved by grace 101]

The second resurrection is the wicked dead and then the new heavens and earth..........I agree with you
You are wrong about it being the last day. Jesus said those that believed in him would be raised at the last day....................[John 6:40 KJV] "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.".........THEREFORE that would mean the righteous are facing the great white throne and be cast into the lake of fire

Read it again, very slowly, your surmation is wrong.

 

[saved by grace 101]

The second resurrection is the wicked dead and then the new heavens and earth..........I agree with you
You are wrong about it being the last day. Jesus said those that believed in him would be raised at the last day....................[John 6:40 KJV] "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.".........THEREFORE that would mean the righteous are facing the great white throne and be cast into the lake of fire

Let me help:
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Only those not found in the book go into the lake of fire. No need to mention the book of life, if no one in that resurrection were in it is there

 

[Doug]

I really dont know what you are arguing about, I will put the timeline up once more:
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

WHEN THAT HAS OCCURED, THIS FOLLOWS:

And I saw A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH FOR THE FIRST HEAVEN AND THE FIRST EARTH HAD PASSED AWAY: and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: FOR THE FORMER THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY

I am discussing you saying the last day was the resurrection of the dead unjust. The last day was the first resurrection