Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

[saved by grace 101]

He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:4

What are the commands? 1John3:22&23

 

[saved by grace 101]

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Do you believe all liars will be sent to the lake of fire?

Think you need to qualify that, do you never tell any even little fibs?

 

[saved by grace 101]

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Do you believe all liars will be sent to the lake of fire?

BTW
What about hypocrisy, will that get you sent to hell?

 

[GodsGrace]

Find the phrase "Jesus IS God" in the scriptures.
I know what you believe and I have given you over a hundred scriptures to prove that Yahweh and Yeshua are two separate God.....How many scriptures can you find that say Jesus is God or that there are 3 Gods in one.

And you please find in scripture the phrase where Jesus says He is NOT God.
OR where Jesus rebukes the one making a statement that He is God.
You will not find it.

 

[JLB]

What are the commands? 1John3:22&23

And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 1 John 3:22-23

• because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

Do you believe lying, adultery, homosexuality, sorcery, murder, hate, stealing, idolatry …. are pleasing in His sight?


Here is just a short list of things that are not:


He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Paul says it this way -


Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

• those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[JLB]

BTW
What about hypocrisy, will that get you sent to hell?

• and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 24:45-51

 

[saved by grace 101]

And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 1 John 3:22-23

• because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

Do you believe lying, adultery, homosexuality, sorcery, murder, hate, stealing, idolatry …. are pleasing in His sight?


Here is just a short list of things that are not:


He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Paul says it this way -


Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

• those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Think you need to qualify that would be choosing to live a lifestyle of sin. Envy is in there. Are you saying if a person once envied something of another they would end up in hell?

 

[saved by grace 101]

• and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 24:45-51

Give an example of hypocrisy, Jesus did:
Beware of the yeast of the pharisees and saducees which is hypocrisy Luke12:1
Why
Didnt practice what they preached/insisted of others

 

[JLB]

Think you need to qualify that would be choosing to live a lifestyle of sin. Envy is in there. Are you saying if a person once envied something of another they would end up in hell?

‘Any sin that a person does not confess and receive forgiveness and cleansing from will send them to hell.


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

 

[saved by grace 101]

• and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 24:45-51

Anyway, you should be preaching all of this to those who keep insisting we MUST obey the TC, in my forty years experience they are the most flagrant transgressors of those commands

 

[JLB]

Give an example of hypocrisy, Jesus did:
Beware of the yeast of the pharisees and saducees which is hypocrisy Luke12:1
Why
Didnt practice what they preached/insisted of others

‘That’s what a hypocrite is, a liar.

Someone who says one thing but does another.

 

[saved by grace 101]

‘Any sin that a person does not confess and receive forgiveness and cleansing from will send them to hell.


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

A truly born again christian will always confess, as surely as night follows day, the burden of not doing so would be too great

 

[saved by grace 101]

‘That’s what a hypocrite is, a liar.

Someone who says one thing but does another.

No hypocrisy is insisting of others what you do not insist of yourself where the pharisees were concerned. Have to go out now, thanks for the chat

 

[JLB]

Anyway, you should be preaching all of this to those who keep insisting we MUST obey the TC, in my forty years experience they are the most flagrant transgressors of those commands

‘The ten commandments include keeping the Sabbath as defined by Moses.


We are not under the law of Moses, but the law of Christ.


We are under grace.


Shall we discuss what that means?

 

[JLB]

No hypocrisy is insisting of others what you do not insist of yourself

‘That’s basically what I said.

I agree.

 

[JLB]

A truly born again christian will always confess

‘Ok.

Please show me a scripture that says a truly born again Christian will always confess.

 

[Grailhunter]

And you please find in scripture the phrase where Jesus says He is NOT God.
OR where Jesus rebukes the one making a statement that He is God.
You will not find it.

Yeshua does not say He is a God or God. And the Apostles when they refer to Yahweh and Yeshua in the same verse Refer to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord.

 

[saved by grace 101]

‘Ok.

Please show me a scripture that says a truly born again Christian will always confess.

Discernment should do. You have God's applicable laws in your heart and mind, the weight of not following what is in your heart to follow, in your most inward parts I've always found to hard to bear, I have to confess, it is the only way to get my peace back. As surely as night follows day I will say sorry for my folly, aren't you the same?

 

[saved by grace 101]

‘The ten commandments include keeping the Sabbath as defined by Moses.


We are not under the law of Moses, but the law of Christ.


We are under grace.


Shall we discuss what that means?

Can do, but firstly I will put up some commandments, you have been insistant they should be obeyed. Can you confirm you obey the following list, bearing in mind your previous posts:

Let’s start with the Ten Commandments:



Do you always honour your parents without exception.

Have you ever looked at a woman with lust in your eye? (Jesus ratified the commandment)

Have you ever fibbed about anyone, or been untruthful about a person in anyway?

Have you dwelt on any impure thought?

Do you ever desire ANYTHING of your neighbours, whether material goods or a member of their household?

Do you fully obey the law relating to the inner man, the law only you and God need know you break?

Jesus commands:

If someone asked to lend from you would you gladly lend to them without ever expecting anything back?

If someone stole from you, would you offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them?

Do you not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, blind, lame and beggars?

If you have ever fasted, have you even hinted to anyone you are fasting?

Do you truly in your heart love your enemies, those who may malign, harass or persecute you?

Do you leap for joy if you are persecuted?

Second greatest commandment

Do you always truly love all those you come into contact with in thought, word or deed, constantly, including your enemies, those who may be unkind to you, persecute or harass you?

 

[GodsGrace]

Yeshua does not say He is a God or God. And the Apostles when they refer to Yahweh and Yeshua in the same verse Refer to Yahweh as God and Yeshua as Lord.

Correct.
Jesus is LORD
and Jesus is Lord.

Paul refers to Jesus as God...
Titus 2:13
13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

I'll post from a source instead.

160 reasons why Jesus is God (thanks to @GRACE ambassador )


Complete Case Why Jesus is God from the OT and the NT.