Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

[St. SteVen]

We trust in Christ, NOW......while we are breathing, and God will give us "the Gift of Salvation".

Where did Jesus go for three days before His resurrection?

 

[Behold]

Where did Jesus go for three days before His resurrection?

Its all the same place....

1.) "Paradise" ("Today you will be with me in Paradise") Jesus told the dying Thief

Where is this, as this is not Heaven.

A.) "Abrahams's Bosom"

3.) Luke 16:22

4.) 1 Peter 3:19

 

[St. SteVen]

Its all the same place....

1.) "Paradise" ("Today you will be with me in Paradise") Jesus told the dying Thief

Where is this, as this is not Heaven.

A.) "Abrahams's Bosom"

3.) Luke 16:22

4.) 1 Peter 3:19

Who did He take with Him when He left?

 

[Behold]

Who did He take with Him when He left?

Read the verses i posted for you, that explains it, instead of asking me the same questions.
See, i can teach you but i can't learn it for you..... you have to put in some effort @St. SteVen

 

[St. SteVen]

Read the verses i posted for you, that explains it, instead of asking me the same questions.
See, i can teach you but i can't learn it for you..... you have to put in some effort @St. SteVen

The point is that Christ rescued those in the realm of the dead.
If He did it once, He can do it again.

 

[Brakelite]

Where did Jesus go for three days before His resurrection?

Jesus was in the grave for 3 days.

The point is that Christ rescued those in the realm of the dead.
If He did it once, He can do it again.

The proper interpretation is that the Lord did indeed preach to those sinners before the flood who are now dead, but He did so when they were alive and had the ability to hear with their ears and repent. And the Lord accomplished that through His prophet, Noah, a "preacher of righteousness" , but we all know how many listened.

“18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also (the Holy Spirit) he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; (prison of sin) 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. ”
1 Peter 3:18-20 KJV

 

[St. SteVen]

Jesus was in the grave for 3 days.

I would agree if you meant the Grave. (capital G)
The Grave = Sheol/Hades/the realm of the dead

Jesus was laid in an above ground tomb.
He said he would be three days in "the heart of the earth".
Where is that? (the realm of the dead)

Matthew 12:40 NIV
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish,
so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

[St. SteVen]

The proper interpretation is that the Lord did indeed preach to those sinners before the flood who are now dead, but He did so when they were alive and had the ability to hear with their ears and repent. And the Lord accomplished that through His prophet, Noah, a "preacher of righteousness" , but we all know how many listened.

I see that differently.

Ephesians 4:8-10
This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead, so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged, they might live in the spirit as God does.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

 

[Brakelite]

I would agree if you meant the Grave. (capital G)
The Grave = Sheol/Hades/the realm of the dead

Jesus was laid in an above ground tomb.
He said he would be three days in "the heart of the earth".
Where is that? (the realm of the dead)

Matthew 12:40 NIV
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish,
so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

And He was dead. Until the resurrection. Death does not mean alive elsewhere.

 

[St. SteVen]

And He was dead. Until the resurrection. Death does not mean alive elsewhere.

I don't agree with that.
They don't call it the afterlife for nothing.
I understand that your religion takes a different position and I respect that.
What do you make of this?

Luke 20:38 NIV
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”

 

[amigo de christo]

It certainly may, but there may be hope for him.

There is always hope for the living for if one repents and turns to CHRIST they shall be forgiven .
But seeing no man knows the day of his own death , NOR the day of the COMING of the LORD ,
Steve better repent TODAY and not wait for another day .

 

[amigo de christo]

Paul's Gospel is very simple.

We trust in Christ, NOW......while we are breathing, and God will give us "the Gift of Salvation".

So, your false Gospel, does not teach this as the only way to Heaven, so, you are described as "cursed" by Paul.
The NT pronounces this about you, and because you have even less regard for the bible then you have for God, you feel safe.

Galatians 1:8

Thats on you, and no forum Mod can help you with it.

Let us lengthen the first sentence to say The gospel of JESUS CHRIST which ALL apostels the twelve and later paul preached
IS very simple . BELEIVE in HE whom GOD did send
that GOD did ressurect him from the dead and confess him by mouth ...................AND YE SHALL BE SAVED .
But reader and all beware
for if one cometh to another jesus , WELL that ol lip service wont save them . NO sir .
For if we love another jesus , another gospel , a fat ecumeincal intefaith lie of anti christ
OH DEAR where BE THE DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT in such a one .
THE divine HOLY SPIRIT given to the born again whose faith be IN JESUS CHRIST
TESTIFIES ON JESUS CHRIST
and all that HE did teach would it remind us . The divine HOLY SPIRIT
by which AFTER one BELEIVES they are sealed
WELL it dont honor any sin . AND it dont honor UNBELEIF and kiss on korans and act like we is serving the same GOD .
NO that be another spirit all together that do that .
KNOWN AS THE SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST and all that is unholy .

 

[lforrest]

I found myself in a bit of a minor frustration.
My reaction was to raise a fist and blame God. All in jest of course.
I believe that God has a sense of humor and can stand a bit of honest frustration.

If we believe God is sovereign, then he is ultimately responsible for this mess we are in.
And I believe he has a plan in place to make everything right again. The age of restoration.

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Can't ignore our part in this mess either. And sins tend to have unexpected ramifications.

Should we blame God because he gave a command that was ignored? Is it God's responsibility to provide each of us with the pros and cons for obedience?

 

[St. SteVen]

Can't ignore our part in this mess either. And sins tend to have unexpected ramifications.

Agreed.

Should we blame God because he gave a command that was ignored?

A&E had no intention of disobeying. They had to be deceived.

 

[lforrest]

A&E had no intention of disobeying. They had to be deceived.

Something similar happened to the prophet who turned back and ate in Bethel against the Lord's command in 1 Kings 13. Except the old prophet did not decieve him with malicious intent. Nevertheless the young prophet died, the Lord sent a lion to kill him.

 

[amigo de christo]

Can't ignore our part in this mess either. And sins tend to have unexpected ramifications.

Should we blame God because he gave a command that was ignored? Is it God's responsibility to provide each of us with the pros and cons for obedience?

GOD himself testified ON THE SON . HEAR HIM , OBEY HIM .
You might wanna ask the man you talking too how he views universalism incluisivism ecumencalism intefaith .
CAUSE the last time i checked
THEY DARN SURE DID NOT TESTIFY to them false religoins OF JESUS CHRIST and the dire need to beleive on HIM
IN Fact here is what THEY had to tell them .
Our GOD is no better than yours .
WE ALL are serving the same GOD and just coming to him IN different ways ,
RATHER ODD dont ya think . THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THIS GOD and THEY DARN SURE DIDNT PREACH HIS NAME .
they preached anti christ . that is exactly where this end hour ecumeincisim will lead all who remain in it TOO .

 

[amigo de christo]

Something similar happened to the prophet who turned back and ate in Bethel against the Lord's command in 1 Kings 13. Except the old prophet did not decieve him with malicious intent. Nevertheless the young prophet died, the Lord sent a lion to kill him.

WHEN GOD says something HE never later contradicts himself .
I know of the prophet you speak of my friend . HE went to warn the king of israel
And warn him he did . The kings own hand was dried up . and quickly healed too .
BUT GOD had TOLD that prophet DO NOT return back the way you came or etc .
THEN along comes another prophet , and Lied to him and said
Come eat with me and etc .
OF course ALL Of a sudden during the meal , THE SPIRIT OF GOD came upon the OLD prophet
WHO THEN WARNED THAT PROPHET of the WRONG HE had done .
And so that prophet paid the price and would not be buried in his own place .
THE LESSON OF THAT IS
WHEN MEN come along and TRY AND EVEN TWIST THE WORDS OF GOD
in said bible to imply a lie, HEED NOT A WORD ONE OUTTA THEIR LIPS .

 

[amigo de christo]

Something similar happened to the prophet who turned back and ate in Bethel against the Lord's command in 1 Kings 13. Except the old prophet did not decieve him with malicious intent. Nevertheless the young prophet died, the Lord sent a lion to kill him.

Yes some of us really do read our bibles my friend . And this i say not to boast in me or in them .
BUT to simply get us all back into daily bible reading for ourselves .
One would marvel at how much good is in the holy scrips and how by the SPIRIT within us
can make us wise indeed . BIBLE TIME .

 

[amigo de christo]

Something similar happened to the prophet who turned back and ate in Bethel against the Lord's command in 1 Kings 13. Except the old prophet did not decieve him with malicious intent. Nevertheless the young prophet died, the Lord sent a lion to kill him.

WHEN GOD SAYS something , HE DONT later contradict it .
LET US KEEP that in mind when READING THE BIBLE and the words of JESUS
and later of the apostels . OH I KNOW generations chan ge , BUT NOT GOD .
So when some wise sounding lovey do champion comes along
and preaches ecumeincal intefaith , HEED NOT A WORD ONE outta its lips .
JESUS dont hold rainbows and darn sure dont preach UNBELEIF . we are being LIED TOO IFFOREST .
And we need to make our last hour stand and preach JESUS and get this people back INTO just the bible
for to learn for themselves . cause this generation and its love DARN SURE HAS MADE THE ROAD TO GOD
VERY and i mean VERY BROAD . and the narrow way HAS BEEN ABONDNED .

 

[Hiddenthings]

Something similar happened to the prophet who turned back and ate in Bethel against the Lord's command in 1 Kings 13. Except the old prophet did not decieve him with malicious intent. Nevertheless the young prophet died, the Lord sent a lion to kill him.

Galatians 1:8–9. “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

When the original gospel, once known to the early Christian community, is truly understood again, the outcry will be immense and the warning unmistakably clear, so much so that the whole earth will wail as it confronts its true position.

1 Kings 13 is the perfect example of Christianity's problems today.

Jeroboam’s policy was deliberately designed to widen the breach between the two kingdoms and to sever the bonds that united them, the shared interests which the Law was intended to weave together into one people. To achieve this, he sacrificed the most sacred and inviolable obligations of the covenant by forbidding his subjects to worship at the temple of the God who had placed him on the throne. He elevated common men to the priesthood and even assumed priestly functions himself, imitating Egyptian religious practice, while setting up gods in the name of Yahweh, much as Aaron had done earlier with the golden calf.

Faced with a crisis that could only be rightly addressed by faith, Jeroboam instead relied on political calculation and human diplomacy (The Harlot and her many daughters) and in doing so, he failed. His great sin was not merely idolatry (for Solomon and Rehoboam were also guilty of that), but compromise: a policy of expediency that corrupted truth by overlaying it with pagan principles. Jeroboam believed the end justified the means.

This same failure later appeared in the early Christian communities (Councils of men). Accordingly, Jeroboam was rebuked by the unnamed prophet recorded in this chapter, through a series of dramatic events.

The “dedication” was never completed. Yahweh intervened decisively to strip sin of its false solemnity.