The Lost sheep of Israel, even to this day.

[bro.tan]

I wonder how an individual can read a scripture such as the following, when Jesus says in (Matthew 15:24 ) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel and yet not understand the significance or the importance of biblical Israel. The truth of the matter is, people as a whole, know very little about Israel or their relationship with God. A point one should take note of, is that, it was Israel who received the word of God. It was Israel, through whom God revealed Himself to man. And Jesus, Himself was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Now other sheep, were received into Jesus fold and these other sheep were the Gentiles. Jesus stated that there would be one fold and one shepherd. In other words Jesus is the way of salvation to all, to Jew and Gentile alike. And to follow Jesus, and to be His sheep, one must obey the word of God. Now Gods word as mentioned was given to Israel. Hence to be a sheep in Jesus fold, one must adhere to the word given to Israel.

JESUS TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST

As stated Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and the following verses will show that Jesus came to seek and to save them.

Luke (19:9) And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. (10) For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

The fact that Jesus was specifically sent to Israel, is further confirmed when one views, how He responded to a request for mercy, from a Canaan women. And in addition note, what He commanded His apostles to do.

Jesus says in Matthew (15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Again in Matthew (10:5) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

ISRAEL, A LOST SHEEP

The prophets had foretold the fact, that Jesus was to come to the house of Israel, and also become a light to the Gentiles.

In the Scriptures it’s written in Isaiah (53:6) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Now in Jeremiah (50:6) My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place. (7) All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.

David uses the same analogy as far as referring to Israel as lost sheep.

Psalms (119:176) I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

Psalms (100:3) Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

Ezekiel prophesied that Jesus would seek out His sheep which are the house of Israel.

Ezekiel (34:1) And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, (2) Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? (6) My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
(11) For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
(12) As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Jesus tells us that all written of Him must be fulfilled. (Luke 24:44) And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Thus Jesus stating in ( Matthew 15:24) that he was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, was a fulfillment of prophecy.

 

[bro.tan]

GENTILES THE OTHER SHEEP

In the following verses Jesus talks of being a good shepherd, and we know that the house of Israel was his sheep. However take note that in verse (16) Jesus speaks of bringing other sheep into the fold. As previously stated the other sheep being mentioned are the Gentiles.

John (10:14) I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
(15) As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. (16) And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

The prophet Isaiah told of how Jesus was to restore Israel and become a light unto the Gentiles.

Isaiah (49:6) And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Isaiah (65:1) I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

ISRAELS FALL BENEFIT GENTILES

The failure of Israel to obey God, and to keep His commandments is what brought salvation to the Gentiles. Paul lets you know that as a result of Israel=s disobedience and their provoking of God, in turn caused God to choose a people, whereby which He, would provoke Israel and make them jealous.

Romans (11:11) I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Paul in the above verse is citing Moses because it was Moses who first warned Israel that this was going to happen to them back in Deuteronomy.

Romans (10:19) But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

Deuteronomy (32:21) They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Paul in the following verse is citing the prophet Isaiah when he tells of how Israel continued to be disobedient.

Roman (10:21) But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Isaiah (65:2) I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;

 

[bro.tan]

JESUS DID HIS PART

Jesus did what was required of Him. He brought the message to Israel, and He also became a light to the Gentiles.

John (17:1) These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

(2) As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

(3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

(6) I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

(8) For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

JESUS IS SALVATION TO ALL

The following verses will show that as previously stated that Jesus became the way of salvation to all mankind. Note the prophet Joel is letting you know that through Jesus all of mankind would be delivered. This was before salvation had come to the Gentiles.

Joel (2:32) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

John (3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans (10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

(12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

(13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[bro.tan]

JESUS WORDS THEY ARE LIFE

Remember Jesus was sent to Israel and He ministered only to Israel. He tells us in verse (8) that which He gave to Israel were the words of God. He reiterates that in the following verses.

John (17:14) I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. (17) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

In Luke (chapter 6), Jesus had told the Jews that everyone that believed on Him would have everlasting life. And that He would raise them up at the last day. Jesus went on further to tell them that He was the living bread and if any man was to partake of Him they would not die. The Jews, because they did not understand Jesus, questioned among themselves as to how could a man eat His flesh? One should pay close attention to how Jesus responded to their bewilderment.

Luke (6:63) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus told them that it was His words that were life, remember in John (17:8) Jesus stated that He had given unto Israel the words that God had gave Him. And in verse (17) Jesus asked God to sanctify them through thy truth and that His word is truth. In Matthew (chapter 4), Jesus responded when being tempted by Satan to turn stones into bread, by stating that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Jesus was reiterating that which had been stated by Moses.

Deuteronomy (8:3) And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed hee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

The words of God are found in the Holy scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and one should realize by this point that they must adhere to these writing in order to obtain eternal life. Paul states the same thing in the following verse.

II Timothy (3:15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

 

[n2thelight]

Deuteronomy 28 is not talking about that nation state , so I ask you who are the curses on ?

 

[Rockerduck]

In Christ alone rests your eternal life. Not endless words of scripture. Jesus said the Pharisees, "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these (scriptures) that bear witness about Me; John 5:39.
You see, it is Christ who scripture reveals. Instead of searching scripture for eternal life, you should be searching scripture for Jesus Christ, who gives eternal life.

 

[Luther7]

JESUS DID HIS PART

Jesus did what was required of Him. He brought the message to Israel, and He also became a light to the Gentiles.

John (17:1) These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

(2) As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

(3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

(6) I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

(8) For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

JESUS IS SALVATION TO ALL

The following verses will show that as previously stated that Jesus became the way of salvation to all mankind. Note the prophet Joel is letting you know that through Jesus all of mankind would be delivered. This was before salvation had come to the Gentiles.

Joel (2:32) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

John (3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans (10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

(12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

(13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I wonder how an individual can read a scripture such as the following, when Jesus says in (Matthew 15:24 ) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel and yet not understand the significance or the importance of biblical Israel. The truth of the matter is, people as a whole, know very little about Israel or their relationship with God. A point one should take note of, is that, it was Israel who received the word of God. It was Israel, through whom God revealed Himself to man. And Jesus, Himself was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Now other sheep, were received into Jesus fold and these other sheep were the Gentiles. Jesus stated that there would be one fold and one shepherd. In other words Jesus is the way of salvation to all, to Jew and Gentile alike. And to follow Jesus, and to be His sheep, one must obey the word of God. Now Gods word as mentioned was given to Israel. Hence to be a sheep in Jesus fold, one must adhere to the word given to Israel.

JESUS TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST

As stated Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and the following verses will show that Jesus came to seek and to save them.

Luke (19:9) And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. (10) For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

The fact that Jesus was specifically sent to Israel, is further confirmed when one views, how He responded to a request for mercy, from a Canaan women. And in addition note, what He commanded His apostles to do.

Jesus says in Matthew (15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Again in Matthew (10:5) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

ISRAEL, A LOST SHEEP

The prophets had foretold the fact, that Jesus was to come to the house of Israel, and also become a light to the Gentiles.

In the Scriptures it’s written in Isaiah (53:6) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Now in Jeremiah (50:6) My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place. (7) All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.

David uses the same analogy as far as referring to Israel as lost sheep.

Psalms (119:176) I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

Psalms (100:3) Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

Ezekiel prophesied that Jesus would seek out His sheep which are the house of Israel.

Ezekiel (34:1) And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, (2) Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? (6) My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
(11) For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
(12) As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Jesus tells us that all written of Him must be fulfilled. (Luke 24:44) And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Thus Jesus stating in ( Matthew 15:24) that he was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, was a fulfillment of prophecy.

The physical ( Biblical) nation of Israel became irrelevant at the Cross of Christ.

However, since the beginning of time, God prepared Jesus Christ and His people to be the spiritual, eternal " Israel", the Israel of God (Galatians 6).

Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the "house of Israel " first. "To the jew first, and to the Greek"
Romans 2:10-11:
10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone that works good, both to the Jew first and to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.

In reality ALL whom Christ came to save are "lost sheep", looking for The Shepherd.

 

[bro.tan]

The physical ( Biblical) nation of Israel became irrelevant at the Cross of Christ.

However, since the beginning of time, God prepared Jesus Christ and His people to be the spiritual, eternal " Israel", the Israel of God (Galatians 6).

Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the "house of Israel " first. "To the jew first, and to the Greek"
Romans 2:10-11:
10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone that works good, both to the Jew first and to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.

In reality ALL whom Christ came to save are "lost sheep", looking for The Shepherd.

Well.....I understand why you see that way, but this why, Paul say this in Romans 11: 1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. Let's skip down to 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Just because the Lord is bringing in the Gentiles nation doesn't stop Israel for being who they are. For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

[Luther7]

Well.....I understand why you see that way, but this why, Paul say this in Romans 11: 1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. Let's skip down to 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Just because the Lord is bringing in the Gentiles nation doesn't stop Israel for being who they are. For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

You said:
"Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 "
You're kidding me, right?
And also, " Let's skip down to 25 "
How about we go back:
4 But what is God's reply to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too then, at this present time, there is also a remnant according to the election of grace.
A remnant. And "so" ( in this manner) ALL ISRAEL ( a remnant of jews and Gentiles) shall be saved. That's God's plan of salvation. A remnant chosen by grace. No special plan for jews. Certainly not Israel 1948. They displaced 700,000 Palestinians at that time. The last thing they are to the world is a blessing.

 

[bro.tan]

You said:
"Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 "
You're kidding me, right?
And also, " Let's skip down to 25 "
How about we go back:
4 But what is God's reply to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too then, at this present time, there is also a remnant according to the election of grace.
A remnant. And "so" ( in this manner) ALL ISRAEL ( a remnant of jews and Gentiles) shall be saved. That's God's plan of salvation. A remnant chosen by grace. No special plan for jews. Certainly not Israel 1948. They displaced 700,000 Palestinians at that time. The last thing they are to the world is a blessing.

It's like you must be kidding me, right? All this biblical proof I show you.

 

[bro.tan]

Deuteronomy 28 is not talking about that nation state , so I ask you who are the curses on ?

The true Jews, which are still in captivity to this day. "Hear this word that the Lord hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, you only have I known of all the families of the earth: Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." (Amos 3:1-2)

Israelities (Jews) of the Bible, and most noteworthy, the Bad Treatment and Continuous Bad Conditions that were Prophesied to befall the real Israelites if they failed to keep the laws and commandments of God. God promised the Israelites that if they failed to obey him, he would curse them and eventually have them removed from their land and carried as slaves into every nation upon the earth. Israel failed, and God kept his promise.

After the Israelites were remove from the land of Israel, it was left as an empty vacant lot, with know inhabitants. Now, if one can understand that any land which has been emptied of its rightful owners can be claimed by any nationality of people that have power or permission to settle in and possess it, then it should also be easy to understand that nationality of people Which move in it and take over the land can assume (adopt) the culture, history, and even call them self by the name of the people that the they have replaced. After a long period of years, that nationality would be accepted by the rest of the world as being the original and rightful inhabitants of that land. This would especially be true if the original people of the land had been move by force, and carried off as slaves. Such is the case of the real Israelites (Jews)!

When someone else is called by your named it is very easy to become lost and living in your land, while you have been carted off into slavery and are called by whatever nation you are found. After being in slavery for a long period of years, and throughout generations, it would be impossible for your children to remember their history. How can they remember what they were never taught?

 

[Luther7]

It's like you must be kidding me, right? All this biblical proof I show you.

But you skipped right over the proof.

 

[bro.tan]

But you skipped right over the proof.

It's up to you to copy and paste scriptures and verses to prove your stands or belief.

 

[bro.tan]

Jesus states that His sheep will follow Him because they know His voice. One hears the voice of God today, through His written word. And Jesus makes it clear, to love Him, is to keep His commandments. As His sheep this is how you follow His voice, first by hearing it, and then by obeying it.





John (10:4) And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

(5) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

The following verse sums up, that which man is supposed to do, and that is to keep the commandments of God.

John (14:15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.

To show you that God does not change, note that what Jesus told us to do in (John 14:15), is the same thing that Moses and Solomon instructed us to do.

Deuteronomy (11:1) Therefore: thou shalt love the Lord thy God, and keep his charge, and his statues, and his judgements, and his commandments, alway.

Ecclesiastes (12:13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

The charge to man has not changed, for even in Revelation the last book of the bible, you are informed that the key to obtaining eternal life is being obedient to God=s commandments. Again the sheep of the Good Shepherd, follows their herder, by obeying His voice by keeping His commandments.

Revelation (14:12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus Christ.

Revelation (22:14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[Luther7]

It's up to you to copy and paste scriptures and verses to prove your stands or belief.

What I'm saying is you are picking and choosing parts of the Bible that suits your narrative.

 

[Luther7]

Jesus states that His sheep will follow Him because they know His voice. One hears the voice of God today, through His written word. And Jesus makes it clear, to love Him, is to keep His commandments. As His sheep this is how you follow His voice, first by hearing it, and then by obeying it.





John (10:4) And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

(5) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

The following verse sums up, that which man is supposed to do, and that is to keep the commandments of God.

John (14:15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.

To show you that God does not change, note that what Jesus told us to do in (John 14:15), is the same thing that Moses and Solomon instructed us to do.

Deuteronomy (11:1) Therefore: thou shalt love the Lord thy God, and keep his charge, and his statues, and his judgements, and his commandments, alway.

Ecclesiastes (12:13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

The charge to man has not changed, for even in Revelation the last book of the bible, you are informed that the key to obtaining eternal life is being obedient to God=s commandments. Again the sheep of the Good Shepherd, follows their herder, by obeying His voice by keeping His commandments.

Revelation (14:12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus Christ.

Revelation (22:14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Well here I certainly agree with you.

 

[bro.tan]

The importance of Israel lies in the fact, that it was them whom God gave His word to. The scriptures show that through Jesus salvation was made available to all. And in order to serve the Lord one must adhere to His word and again His word was given to Israel. There was no new way of obtaining salvation given to the Gentiles; they had to follow that which had already been established with Israel.

Exodus (12:49) One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Pay close attention to the following statement which Jesus made.

John (4:22) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus did not make the above statement to be boastful. Jesus made this statement because it is factual. Everything one knows about God comes from the bible. The bible contains the word of God and that word was given to Israel and Israel only. We know how to serve God by observing that which was required of Israel as written in the Holy Scriptures. Paul stated that in Romans.

Roman (3:1) What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

(2) Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. The Lord Himself stated that Israel is the only family of the earth that He has known.

Amos (3:2) You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

In summary, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He also received into His fold sheep, which initially were not His. One can look at them as being adopted into the household of the Lord. What’s important to note is that when ever one is adopted, they have to adhere to, and be governed by, the rules and regulations of the house, by which they are adopted into. They do not come in and establish their own rules nor do they go about establishing their own set of own laws. One should strive to know and become Spiritual Israel, by following the word that God commanded Israel to adhere to. They are the natural inhabitants of the Lords household, and the way of salvation was revealed unto them. The Lord declared unto Israel, the ways in which to please and to serve Him. And if one wishes to become His sheep and follow Him, then they must become Spiritual Israel.

 

[Luther7]

The importance of Israel lies in the fact, that it was them whom God gave His word to. The scriptures show that through Jesus salvation was made available to all. And in order to serve the Lord one must adhere to His word and again His word was given to Israel. There was no new way of obtaining salvation given to the Gentiles; they had to follow that which had already been established with Israel.

Exodus (12:49) One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Pay close attention to the following statement which Jesus made.

John (4:22) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus did not make the above statement to be boastful. Jesus made this statement because it is factual. Everything one knows about God comes from the bible. The bible contains the word of God and that word was given to Israel and Israel only. We know how to serve God by observing that which was required of Israel as written in the Holy Scriptures. Paul stated that in Romans.

Roman (3:1) What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

(2) Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. The Lord Himself stated that Israel is the only family of the earth that He has known.

Amos (3:2) You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

In summary, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He also received into His fold sheep, which initially were not His. One can look at them as being adopted into the household of the Lord. What’s important to note is that when ever one is adopted, they have to adhere to, and be governed by, the rules and regulations of the house, by which they are adopted into. They do not come in and establish their own rules nor do they go about establishing their own set of own laws. One should strive to know and become Spiritual Israel, by following the word that God commanded Israel to adhere to. They are the natural inhabitants of the Lords household, and the way of salvation was revealed unto them. The Lord declared unto Israel, the ways in which to please and to serve Him. And if one wishes to become His sheep and follow Him, then they must become Spiritual Israel.

I don't know what Old Testament you are reading, but the nation of Israel rejected God .....read much of Jeremiah? The exception is the remnant saved by grace, the spiritual seed of Abraham.

The only promise that God made for the nation of Israel is Jesus Christ. And they didn't want Him.Even to this day ( although in theory the Israel of today has no historical connection with Old Testament Israel).

 

[Luther7]

The importance of Israel lies in the fact, that it was them whom God gave His word to. The scriptures show that through Jesus salvation was made available to all. And in order to serve the Lord one must adhere to His word and again His word was given to Israel. There was no new way of obtaining salvation given to the Gentiles; they had to follow that which had already been established with Israel.

Exodus (12:49) One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Pay close attention to the following statement which Jesus made.

John (4:22) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Jesus did not make the above statement to be boastful. Jesus made this statement because it is factual. Everything one knows about God comes from the bible. The bible contains the word of God and that word was given to Israel and Israel only. We know how to serve God by observing that which was required of Israel as written in the Holy Scriptures. Paul stated that in Romans.

Roman (3:1) What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

(2) Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. The Lord Himself stated that Israel is the only family of the earth that He has known.

Amos (3:2) You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

In summary, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He also received into His fold sheep, which initially were not His. One can look at them as being adopted into the household of the Lord. What’s important to note is that when ever one is adopted, they have to adhere to, and be governed by, the rules and regulations of the house, by which they are adopted into. They do not come in and establish their own rules nor do they go about establishing their own set of own laws. One should strive to know and become Spiritual Israel, by following the word that God commanded Israel to adhere to. They are the natural inhabitants of the Lords household, and the way of salvation was revealed unto them. The Lord declared unto Israel, the ways in which to please and to serve Him. And if one wishes to become His sheep and follow Him, then they must become Spiritual Israel.

When you said " The bible contains the word of God and that word was given to Israel and Israel only." You don't understand God's plan of salvation.

God gave His Word to all whom He came to save. The world has no desire to trust in His word let alone read it. Your "chosen people " have a religion that grossly perverts scripture, and also teaches that non- jews are animals, and that one day soon they will have rulership over us. So please, enough of this special treatment for these people.

 

[Luther7]

The true Jews, which are still in captivity to this day. "Hear this word that the Lord hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, you only have I known of all the families of the earth: Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." (Amos 3:1-2)

Israelities (Jews) of the Bible, and most noteworthy, the Bad Treatment and Continuous Bad Conditions that were Prophesied to befall the real Israelites if they failed to keep the laws and commandments of God. God promised the Israelites that if they failed to obey him, he would curse them and eventually have them removed from their land and carried as slaves into every nation upon the earth. Israel failed, and God kept his promise.

After the Israelites were remove from the land of Israel, it was left as an empty vacant lot, with know inhabitants. Now, if one can understand that any land which has been emptied of its rightful owners can be claimed by any nationality of people that have power or permission to settle in and possess it, then it should also be easy to understand that nationality of people Which move in it and take over the land can assume (adopt) the culture, history, and even call them self by the name of the people that the they have replaced. After a long period of years, that nationality would be accepted by the rest of the world as being the original and rightful inhabitants of that land. This would especially be true if the original people of the land had been move by force, and carried off as slaves. Such is the case of the real Israelites (Jews)!

When someone else is called by your named it is very easy to become lost and living in your land, while you have been carted off into slavery and are called by whatever nation you are found. After being in slavery for a long period of years, and throughout generations, it would be impossible for your children to remember their history. How can they remember what they were never taught?

I like the fact that you give me such low hanging fruit.
#1 " True Jews" are Romans 2 Jews..... circumcised in the heart.

#2 National Israel fell because of their utter rebellion towards God . They lost their land and were dispersed as punishment. While there were periods of time when they were slaves, the general reaction towards these people was based upon WHAT THEY DID TO THE NATIONS THEY CREPT INTO AND TOOK CONTROL OF, politically, and financially, turning governments against their own people.

And it still goes on to this day. THE CURRENT DIVISION AMONGST US is their creation. They have control of our media, our government, our finances, our " entertainment" and our information networks.

The Russian people are the same stock as the Ukrainian people. WHY IN THE WORLD ARE THEY KILLING EACH OTHER? Because the indigenous people are not in control.

Sorry, This is the reality we live in.