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The very reason I am writing my book, to demonstrate from the context, and internal definitions therein, etymologies, usages, examples, that the Bible means what it says, but it does not say what 'F.E.' want it to say.
Did you pray about it? I would be careful to write a book to explain God's Word away through worldly knowledge. The Bible is sufficient. God bless you
 
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It's called theory. Not guess work.

Flat Earth is guesswork.
Besides,if Earth was flat,so what?

I decided to ask AI.

Proof the Earth isn't flat comes from centuries of observations like ships disappearing hull-first over the horizon, different stars visible in different hemispheres, lunar eclipses showing a curved shadow, time zones, and direct satellite imagery, all demonstrating its spherical shape, a concept understood since ancient Greece.

Here are key proofs:

Ships & Horizons:
When ships sail away, they disappear bottom-first over the curve of the Earth, rather than shrinking into the distance as they would on a flat plane.

Lunar Eclipses: During a lunar eclipse, the Earth's shadow on the Moon is always circular, proving the Earth itself is spherical.

Varying Star Visibility: Travelers going south see new stars appear above the southern horizon, while northern stars sink, impossible on a flat Earth.

Time Zones: The sun shines on different parts of the Earth at different times, creating day and night simultaneously in different locations, which only works on a rotating sphere.

Gravity: Gravity pulls everything towards the center of mass, naturally forming large bodies like Earth into spheres.
Satellite & Space Photos: Countless images and live feeds from space clearly show Earth as a sphere.

Circumnavigation: People have sailed and flown around the world in one continuous direction (east or west) and returned to their starting point.

Eratosthenes' Experiment (3rd Century BC): Ancient Greeks measured the Earth's circumference by comparing shadow lengths in different cities at the same time, proving curvature.
Why do you ask AI (which is demonic) rather then God?
 
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What we are saying is that the Word of God gives us very plain descriptions of how He created the earth, and it is not a spinning ball hurling through "space."
Would you be willing to look at the texts of Genesis with me, and look at each verse and answer some questions by the scripture looked at? In other words, ask the text a question, and see what it's response is?
 

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Did you pray about it? I would be careful to write a book to explain God's Word away through worldly knowledge. The Bible is sufficient. God bless you
Of course I prayed much about it. I have actually been delaying it, and the devil has assaulted me, nearly killing me, for writing my books. The reason the book came about in the first place, was because a dear friend/brother of mine, in Christ Jesus, working in a specific ministry I also served with, began to be swallowed up in this 'F.E.' thing, until it affected his marriage, work ethic, etc. So, that is when I began the prayer, and the duty to look into these things, and to judge them by the scripture itself. This is not a whim. This is years of material by now, simply not formatted into a book yet.

I do not intend to "explain ... away" God's words, but simply allow them to explain themselves, line upon line, with additional details that corroborate that approach.

This has nothing to do with worldly knowledge. The foundation is what God says (period; Isa. 8:20 KJB; 1 Pet. 4:11 KJB).

Correction, the Bible is the sufficiency (final authority) to test / prove all things, but the Bible also mentions "the testimony" of angels, prophets of God, apostles, teachers, visions, dreams, creatures, elements, creation (itself and its built in laws by God) as witnesses to God, which are subject to (be tested by) the Bible, thus the prophets are subject to the prophets, &c.
 

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Well,if that were true people wouldn't insist the Earth is flat and gravity is a myth.
No, it simply means what scripture states they do to the words therein, meaning they "wrest" them:

Psa_56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.​
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.​

The Bible is "the science book", but it is just that people come to it with their own philosophies and read into it what they want, as they also do with other books. Just as people can read a scientific paper and through incorrect a priori come to a bad conclusion about what it says, that the scientific paper does not conclude with, the same also do to the scripture.

The Sadducees pointed to scriptures to 'justify' their error. The Pharisees pointed to the scriptures to 'justify' their error. The scriptures were not in error, they were. The scriptures were not untrue, they erred in the truth.
 

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No, it simply means what scripture states they do to the words therein, meaning they "wrest" them:

Psa_56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.​
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.​

The Bible is "the science book", but it is just that people come to it with their own philosophies and read into it what they want, as they also do with other books. Just as people can read a scientific paper and through incorrect a priori come to a bad conclusion about what it says, that the scientific paper does not conclude with, the same also do to the scripture.

The Sadducees pointed to scriptures to 'justify' their error. The Pharisees pointed to the scriptures to 'justify' their error. The scriptures were not in error, they were. The scriptures were not untrue, they erred in the truth.
Earth is flat and gravity is a myth.

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The end.
 

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No, it simply means what scripture states they do to the words therein, meaning they "wrest" them:

Psa_56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.​
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.​

The Bible is "the science book", but it is just that people come to it with their own philosophies and read into it what they want, as they also do with other books. Just as people can read a scientific paper and through incorrect a priori come to a bad conclusion about what it says, that the scientific paper does not conclude with, the same also do to the scripture.

The Sadducees pointed to scriptures to 'justify' their error. The Pharisees pointed to the scriptures to 'justify' their error. The scriptures were not in error, they were. The scriptures were not untrue, they erred in the truth.
Interesting that my philosophy was the globe earth like everyone is indoctrinated in. Then God's Word came, and He opened my eyes and removed the veils. And it was not easy for me because of the indoctrination, but then so much made sense. God's Word is true.
 
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Interesting that my philosophy was the globe earth like everyone is indoctrinated in. Then God's Word came, and He opened my eyes and removed the veils. And it was not easy for me because of the indoctrination, but then so much made sense. God's Word is true.
After I realized it is truth about creation and the shape of the earth, I just rested with the topic. And grew more in other things of Christ. I do not talk to people about it either, I just rest in knowing the truth there and it gives me peace. But the Christians I am in touch with, God has showed the truth about flat earth too independently of my journey. I try to be a testimony here in this thread, maybe it reaches just one person. I can take the mocking for that. Because they don't mock me, but God. And it is sad. It is not a salvation issue, but it is important. God bless
 

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The London Times Newspapers (17th of January 2026) warns of the aliens and wants to prepare. So for the ones here who think this is crazy, it is an agenda.
So please, pray about it all, because if you believe in the globe, and deny the world's evil powers and their agenda, you might fall for the deception. If you acknowledge the truth, you will not be fooled. Wake up brothers and sisters.
 

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The Azimuthal Equidistant map is a map of a spheroid earth (U.N. 'Map'), simply showing from the perspective of a top (displayed as central) to bottom (displayed as outer 'edge') splayed out view as if peeled. Other such maps, also display a spheroid earth, simply peeled out into different shapes. The reason is, they are attempting to 'map' a 'globe' (3D) onto a 2D surface, such as paper, parchment, vellum, plastic, &c. The same thing is done for the moon. They 'map' it in flat planes / images, and piece it together (like a puzzle) into the spheroid that it is. There are issues in longitude (and some latitude) calculations in all 'F.E.' models. Additionally most 'F.E.' models not only 'argue' against each other, they also are generally designed in such a way as to address only one or two issues, and cannot handle the other issues that other 'F.E.' models were designed to address (and vice-versa). This is why some YT "F.E." proponents pull several 'bait & switches' by showing multiple "F.E." models in their presentation when speaking on one subject or another. They have to, as no one "F.E." model can handle all of the material in observation.
 
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Interesting that my philosophy was the globe earth like everyone is indoctrinated in. Then God's Word came, and He opened my eyes and removed the veils. And it was not easy for me because of the indoctrination, but then so much made sense. God's Word is true.
As I said, "God's word is true." That doesn't mean how the 'F.E.' persons are reading those words is correct. The two things are not the same thing. One (being correct) is God's words. The other (being incorrect) is how people perceive / understand those words. In general, I have found with speaking with several 'F.E.' persons, and going through the entire 'F.E.' documentation package, and several mainstream 'F.E.' videos, etc, that those who point to scripture in evidence, take either isolated texts (a single text), or isolated words (a single word), and extrapolate those into an ideology not present in scripture, when the whole is compared line upon line, &c. In other words they take words like 'circle', they take words like 'firmament', 'foundations', 'pillars', 'not be moved', 'four courners', 'stable', 'ends of the earth' &c., such like things, and simply do not compare them to other places in scripture, nor even to the immediate contexts in which they were written, nor compare those words to other places in scripture which similarly use those words, nor to their etymology, nor historical use (beginning with scripture, and as used in the church after). Others go looking for isolated phrases, on purpose, to justify their position, and some use other isolated phrases found in poetical, symbolical places (such as Psalms, Revelation, Prophecy), and simply misapply those meanings, and others yet still take an overly harsh literal approach to passages / texts which are clearly found in metaphorical / symbolical uses in their context.

I can provide specific examples (from the 'F.E.' 'documentation package' sent to me) of such things that are done, which ought not to be done.

One such blatant misuse of at least 2 Bibles, of the "F.E." (in the documentation package) position, was where they had cited 2 Sam. 11:11 (specifically and only from out of the Matthews 1537, and Great 1539 Bibles). And some may say, 'I would never do such a thing as that.' and yet, similar issues exist among all the "F.E."I have ever met, or spoken with. So, such is not an isolated incident, and the 'package' was being sent to many who requested "F.E." 'evidence' from scripture. Of course, finding one such misuse, would not negate all of the remaining 'documentation', since each 'evidence' would have to be considered on its own merits (and I, as others, have) and stand or fall according to those merits.

One thing that I do find, is that when I start to really show that the scriptures, by the scriptures, do not teach their various models of "F.E." then the conversation suddenly turns to non-sequiturs and red-herrings, like showing me some YT video of this or that, or they begin to start talking about NASA, or the Jesuits, etc. They suddenly go 'tangent' from scripture 'evidence' to something else.
 
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As I said, "God's word is true." That doesn't mean how the 'F.E.' persons are reading those words is correct. The two things are not the same thing. One (being correct) is God's words. The other (being incorrect) is how people perceive / understand those words. In general, I have found with speaking with several 'F.E.' persons, and going through the entire 'F.E.' documentation package, and several mainstream 'F.E.' videos, etc, that those who point to scripture in evidence, take either isolated texts (a single text), or isolated words (a single word), and extrapolate those into an ideology not present in scripture, when the whole is compared line upon line, &c. In other words they take words like 'circle', they take words like 'firmament', 'foundations', 'pillars', 'not be moved', 'four courners', 'stable', 'ends of the earth' &c., such like things, and simply do not compare them to other places in scripture, nor even to the immediate contexts in which they were written, nor compare those words to other places in scripture which similarly use those words, nor to their etymology, nor historical use (beginning with scripture, and as used in the church after). Others go looking for isolated phrases, on purpose, to justify their position, and some use other isolated phrases found in poetical, symbolical places (such as Psalms, Revelation, Prophecy), and simply misapply those meanings, and others yet still take an overly harsh literal approach to passages / texts which are clearly found in metaphorical / symbolical uses in their context.

I can provide specific examples (from the 'F.E.' 'documentation package' sent to me) of such things that are done, which ought not to be done.

One such blatant misuse of at least 2 Bibles, of the "F.E." (in the documentation package) position, was where they had cited 2 Sam. 11:11 (specifically and only from out of the Matthews 1537, and Great 1539 Bibles). And some may say, 'I would never do such a thing as that.' and yet, similar issues exist among all the "F.E."I have ever met, or spoken with. So, such is not an isolated incident, and the 'package' was being sent to many who requested "F.E." 'evidence' from scripture. Of course, finding one such misuse, would not negate all of the remaining 'documentation', since each 'evidence' would have to be considered on its own merits (and I, as others, have) and stand or fall according to those merits.

One thing that I do find, is that when I start to really show that the scriptures, by the scriptures, do not teach their various models of "F.E." then the conversation suddenly turns to non-sequiturs and red-herrings, like showing me some YT video of this or that, or they begin to start talking about NASA, or the Jesuits, etc. They suddenly go 'tangent' from scripture 'evidence' to something else.
Please share solely scripture here that model a globe earth in space with planets. We shared multiple scripture here that speak for a flat earth, so please provide the globe scripures then. Thank you
 
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Please share solely scripture here that model a globe earth in space with planets. We shared multiple scripture here that speak for a flat earth, so please provide the globe scripures then.
Why do you think that the scriptures you shared are not the very scriptures I utilize for the requested model? As I said above, the words themselves, their uses, etc in their proper contexts, are some of the very same texts I use.

For instance, choose one of the texts you have previously used. Then I will show from it. If not, then will you go with me to Gen. 1?
 

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Why do you think that the scriptures you shared are not the very scriptures I utilize for the requested model? As I said above, the words themselves, their uses, etc in their proper contexts, are some of the very same texts I use.

For instance, choose one of the texts you have previously used. Then I will show from it. If not, then will you go with me to Gen. 1?
That does not make sense to me. God says the earth is fixed and does not move. How can you interpret into that, that the earth spins? The sun was created after the earth according to scripture, why do you believe the globe model that says the sun came first? The Word says the sun stood still, the globe model would struggle with that. It seems to me that scripture has to fit the box for the globe earth that the world teaches, but it does not add up, I am sorry. It just does not. It is more comfortable to believe what everyone else believes and not stand alone on God's Word. Please, forgive me, I do not want to offend. It is deception, only God can open the eyes.