Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

[MonoBiblical]

Where does the NT state that Paul was not executed by the Romans??

[Act 28:16-25, 29-31 KJV] 16 And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard: but Paul was suffered to dwell by himself with a soldier that kept him. 17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men [and] brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans. 18 Who, when they had examined me, would have let [me] go, because there was no cause of death in me. 19 But when the Jews spake against [it], I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of. 20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see [you], and to speak with [you]: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain. 21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee. 22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against. 23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. 24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. 25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, ... 29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves. 30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, 31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

 

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It does mean anything begotten not made or created. Only Adam and Eve were made.

Begotten not made is any ignorant creed.

Unfortunately we've been dumbed down.
The creeds were all meant to confirm Christian teachings.
How could that be ignorant?

Some Christians do not like the creeds because they prefer to have thier own beliefs regarding the Christian religion.

 

[GodsGrace]

[Act 28:16-25, 29-31 KJV] 16 And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard: but Paul was suffered to dwell by himself with a soldier that kept him. 17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men [and] brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans. 18 Who, when they had examined me, would have let [me] go, because there was no cause of death in me. 19 But when the Jews spake against [it], I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of. 20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see [you], and to speak with [you]: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain. 21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee. 22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against. 23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. 24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. 25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, ... 29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves. 30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, 31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

WHERE in the above does it state that Paul was NOT executed by Rome?

 

[MonoBiblical]

Unfortunately we've been dumbed down.
The creeds were all meant to confirm Christian teachings.
How could that be ignorant?

Some Christians do not like the creeds because they prefer to have thier own beliefs regarding the Christian religion.

You are begotten not made. I am begotten not made. All life as of now and before now was and is begotten not made.

 

[MonoBiblical]

WHERE in the above does it state that Paul was NOT executed by Rome?

And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed,

and before:

And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.

no man forbidding him.

 

[GodsGrace]

You are begotten not made. I am begotten not made. All life as of now and before now was and is begotten not made.

The word MADE is NOT a theological word.

Please change the wording of your statement since I don't know what you mean by MADE.

If YOU claim to be begotten,,,,not made....

then you must be like Jesus.

 

[MonoBiblical]

The word MADE is NOT a theological word.

Please change the wording of your statement since I don't know what you mean by MADE.

If YOU claim to be begotten,,,,not made....

then you must be like Jesus.

That would make me human. I was made, for my mom and dad begot me.

 

[GodsGrace]

And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed,

and before:

And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.

Oh my.

So, let's say someone is in the hospital and their sick.
And this statement is my last statement to you.

Does this mean that they cannot die?
Does it mean they're still alive?
Could they have DIED, but I didn't mention it?

Do you think Paul lived forever?

Paul died by beheading in Rome in the last part of the 60'sAD.
He couldn't be crucified because he was a ROMAN CITIZEN.

This is history.
History does NOT END with Acts.
Acts does not state how each Apostle died.

 

[MonoBiblical]

The word MADE is NOT a theological word.

Please change the wording of your statement since I don't know what you mean by MADE.

But the latin or even the Greek may be. I need to know that verb.

 

[MonoBiblical]

This is history.
History does NOT END with Acts.
Acts does not state how each Apostle died.

Myth and legend, since it contradicts the NT.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Do you think Paul lived forever?

Paul was translated. Peter died of old age in Babylon.

 

[GodsGrace]

That would make me human. I was made, for my mom and dad begot me.

I posted the following in post 857...

I'll post it again.
Begotten means something specific in theology:


In theology, begotten means to bring forth something of the same nature as oneself, not to create or make it, signifying Jesus' unique, eternal, divine origin from God the Father, distinct from created beings, as affirmed in the Nicene Creed's "begotten, not made" phrase, emphasizing He shares God's substance, not just a lesser created status.

Key Meanings & Distinctions

• Not Created (Made): Unlike a chair made by a craftsman, Jesus is "begotten," meaning He shares the divine substance and nature of the Father, rather than being a created entity.
• Of the Same Kind: A father begets a son (human); a bird begets birds; God the Father begets God the Son. What God begets is God, affirming Christ's divinity.
• Eternal Generation: Jesus' begetting by the Father is outside of time, an eternal relationship where the Son always exists, unlike creatures who have a temporal beginning.
• Unique Relationship: While believers are "children of God," Jesus is uniquely the "only begotten" (Greek: monogenes), meaning unique in kind, not just the first or only one.
• Nicene Creed: The phrase "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father" refutes Arianism (which claimed Jesus was a created being) and asserts Jesus' co-eternality and co-equality with the Father.

Examples in Scripture & Creed

• Nicene Creed: "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father".
• John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...".
• Acts 13:33: "Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee" (referring to resurrection)

 

[GodsGrace]

Myth and legend, since it contradicts the NT.

So everything not written in the NT is myth and legend?

History ends in Acts?

 

[GodsGrace]

Paul was translated. Peter died of old age in Babylon.

OH!!!!

And where is that written in the book of Acts??

 

[MonoBiblical]

I posted the following in post 857...

I'll post it again.
Begotten means something specific in theology:


In theology, begotten means to bring forth something of the same nature as oneself, not to create or make it, signifying Jesus' unique, eternal, divine origin from God the Father, distinct from created beings, as affirmed in the Nicene Creed's "begotten, not made" phrase, emphasizing He shares God's substance, not just a lesser created status.

Key Meanings & Distinctions

• Not Created (Made): Unlike a chair made by a craftsman, Jesus is "begotten," meaning He shares the divine substance and nature of the Father, rather than being a created entity.
• Of the Same Kind: A father begets a son (human); a bird begets birds; God the Father begets God the Son. What God begets is God, affirming Christ's divinity.
• Eternal Generation: Jesus' begetting by the Father is outside of time, an eternal relationship where the Son always exists, unlike creatures who have a temporal beginning.
• Unique Relationship: While believers are "children of God," Jesus is uniquely the "only begotten" (Greek: monogenes), meaning unique in kind, not just the first or only one.
• Nicene Creed: The phrase "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father" refutes Arianism (which claimed Jesus was a created being) and asserts Jesus' co-eternality and co-equality with the Father.

Examples in Scripture & Creed

• Nicene Creed: "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father".
• John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...".
• Acts 13:33: "Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee" (referring to resurrection)

Worthless to me without Greek or Latin, generally. Begotten means begun. I know this because I know the Greek verb does not mean anything genetic which is an etymological fallacy.

 

[GodsGrace]

But the latin or even the Greek may be. I need to know that verb.

Here's BEGOTTEN in the Greek meaning:

It's the same BTW.


The Greek word for "begotten," especially in biblical contexts like the Nicene Creed, is μονογενής (monogenēs), meaning "only begotten," "unique," or "one of a kind," combining monos (only) and genos (kind, offspring). While it carries the sense of being brought forth or born, emphasizing Jesus' unique relationship with God, its precise translation is debated, with "unique" or "one and only" also accurate interpretations.
Key aspects of monogenēs:

• Meaning: Sole, only-born, single of its kind, unique.
• Etymology: From monos (μόνος, "alone") and genos (γένος, "offspring," "kind," "stock").
• Usage: Used in the New Testament (e.g., John 3:16) to describe Jesus, highlighting his singular divine nature, not just physical birth.
• Translation Nuance: The translation "begotten" (influenced by Latin unigenitus) emphasizes derivation from the Father, while "unique" highlights being the "only one of His kind".

 

[MonoBiblical]

OH!!!!

And where is that written in the book of Acts??

If you would read the end of 1st Peter, you will know his son is Mark, and that he was in Babylon.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Here's BEGOTTEN in the Greek meaning:

It's the same BTW.


The Greek word for "begotten," especially in biblical contexts like the Nicene Creed, is μονογενής (monogenēs), meaning "only begotten," "unique," or "one of a kind," combining monos (only) and genos (kind, offspring). While it carries the sense of being brought forth or born, emphasizing Jesus' unique relationship with God, its precise translation is debated, with "unique" or "one and only" also accurate interpretations.
Key aspects of monogenēs:

• Meaning: Sole, only-born, single of its kind, unique.
• Etymology: From monos (μόνος, "alone") and genos (γένος, "offspring," "kind," "stock").
• Usage: Used in the New Testament (e.g., John 3:16) to describe Jesus, highlighting his singular divine nature, not just physical birth.
• Translation Nuance: The translation "begotten" (influenced by Latin unigenitus) emphasizes derivation from the Father, while "unique" highlights being the "only one of His kind".

Wrong word. The Latin and Greek of "made", please? :)

 

[GodsGrace]

If you would read the end of 1st Peter, you will know his son is Mark, and that he was in Babylon.

The norm is that YOU have to post scripture defending what YOU state.

It's not up to ME to go look for it.

Please post the end of the letter that states that Paul died in Babylon.
Thanks.

 

[GodsGrace]

Wrong word. The Latin and Greek of "made", please? :)

I'm not discussing Greek Mono.
I'm discussing the word BEGOTTEN and what it means THEOLOGICALLY.