If Greenlanders want security and prosperity, they will join the US in a COFA arrangement

[ProDeo]

Why do you even post here, this is the current events forum, the news of the world, where we discuss what is happening out there.

That's an excellent question.

Why should I post on a Christian forum with members who support a dictator, even using Scripture.

It was fun till it lasted.

Isa 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

 

[Scott Downey]

That's an excellent question.

Why should I post on a Christian forum with members who support a dictator, even using Scripture.

It was fun till it lasted.

Isa 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

Interesting attitude you have. What you want is an echo chamber. Anyone that feels or speaks differently from you is less of a person.

And you can't or don't and won't see how hollow you sound.

 

[Wrangler]

You are wishing for/defending the US aggression against our ally.

You are stuck in rigid definition and archaic order. Are you truly that naive to not realize resources is a historic reason for war?

 

[Wrangler]

But you label yourself as a Christian. So, we expect moral, Christian and peaceful opinions from you. The history of the world or "dog eats dog" is not our standard.

Your expectations are divorced from the Savior who said he did not come to bring peace.

 

[Triumph1300]

European leaders are done pretending this is normal.

Italy’s far-right prime minister called the tariffs a mistake.

Germany said it will not be blackmailed.

The IMF warns that uncertainty itself has become an economic weapon.

And one has to ask the obvious question: why is Trump fighting Europe, destabilizing NATO, rattling markets, and daring courts to clean up the mess, instead of helping Ukraine stop Russia?

The contrast could not be sharper.
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And BTW.....is this still a "Christian Forum" or is this an outlet for satan to promote evil?
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Now news broke that Trump was slapping tariffs on European countries that oppose his Greenland fantasy, tariffs that may not even survive the courts.
Starting at 10% and going up to 25% later.

The Supreme Court is already poised to review Trump’s sweeping claims of tariff authority, and there is a very real chance it will rule them unconstitutional, forcing not just their removal but a chaotic unwind that could require repayments to companies and allies alike.
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All of this disruption, all of this economic whiplash, for a plan that exists mostly in one man’s evil sick head and is sadly supported by so called "Christians" on this forum.
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Read your Bibles.
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Germany's 1930 all over again.
God help us!

 

[HealthyShape]

You are stuck in rigid definition and archaic order. Are you truly that naive to not realize resources is a historic reason for war?

So, I am supposedly stuck in archaic order, but you are arguing with historic reasons for wars.... go figure.

Back to basic morals, because it seems some who label themselves Christians have a surprising problem with it:
Trade = good.
Stealing = bad.

 

[Justified]

I'll just leave this here:

It has absolutely nothing to do with security. It's real estate with valuable minerals such as rare earth elements. Trump has always been in it for himself, then his family and his wealthy friends, and then those who pay millions to him. It is only about making money at all costs, including significant financial and social costs to the American people.

 

[Justified]

Your expectations are divorced from the Savior who said he did not come to bring peace.

That is a significant misuse/abuse of Scripture. What is the context of that statement?

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
Mat 10:6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’
...
Mat 10:16 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
Mat 10:17 Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues,
Mat 10:18 and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles.
...
Mat 10:26 “So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.
Mat 10:27 What I tell you in the dark, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops.
...
Mat 10:32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven,
Mat 10:33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
Mat 10:36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.
Mat 10:37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
Mat 10:40 “Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me.

The context is clearly only about spreading the gospel and those who believe. It has absolutely nothing to do with the wickedness and ungodliness being done by Trump and his administration, and in the name of Christ at that. MAGA is taking the name of God in vain and dragging the name of Christ through the mud. God will not take kindly to any of those things, nor any Christians and "Christians" who support them.

 

[Wrangler]

So, I am supposedly stuck in archaic order, but you are arguing with historic reasons for wars.... go figure.

The figuring that seems to elude you is being mature enough to accept the actual drivers for war. Your words express a rigidity to current state, rejecting causes to deviate in light of actual drivers for war. In short, you‘re driven by naive ideology not reality.

 

[Wrangler]

European leaders are done pretending this is normal.

Italy’s far-right prime minister called the tariffs a mistake.

Germany said it will not be blackmailed.

What are they going to do about it besides complain?

 

[Triumph1300]

Found on another site.
And translated by a friend of mine from German:
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This is NOT MY TEXT - but it's so good that it's worth spreading further.

Well, I say this as a German who is just sick of watching the whole world hold its breath every time this sulking, burping, big-mouthed moron opens his grotesque mouth.

From the outside, it looks like this: The United States has elected a man who speaks and behaves like a megalomaniac — and the rest of the planet is expected to simply trust that he will not completely lose touch with reality and drag us all into the abyss.

You want to tear Greenland on you.
You're calling on Cuba to "make a deal on time."
Talk about bombing or raiding Mexico.
You let a president be kidnapped and you turn the oil ruckus on Venezuela.
You joke about annexing Canada like it's a parking lot at a mall that you can just claim because you feel like it right now.

Do you have any idea how completely insane this sounds to the rest of the world?
This is not a tough gig. This is not a strategy. This is a deeply unstable old man threatening sovereign states like he's sweeping a game of Monopoly off the table because he's just losing. This is not normal behavior.

This is not leadership. This is not strength. This is a walking, talking international crisis.
And Americans - this is where you come in Not just MAGA. Not just those who voted for him. All of them. Because when the President of the United States starts talking about kidnapping heads of state, annexes and ultimatums like a mob boss, then the rest of the world won't have a say. We only get the consequences.

You can't just shake your shoulders and say "I didn't vote for him." “This may happen at a dinner party, but not when nuclear forces observe this spectacle and redraw their own red lines. This is your system. Your presidency. Your responsibility.

From the outside it looks like America lit the spark cord and then walked away while everyone else is standing around the bomb wondering who should cut the wire.
And let's be brutally honest: this man is almost 80. He is fragile. He's clearly decreasing. He is not a long-term visionary who plays chess. He's at the end of his life acting like he doesn't care what comes after him.
This is the most dangerous type of leadership ever: someone who has nothing left to lose and whose ego constantly needs to be fed.

Why would the rest of the world pay for this?
Why should families in Europe, Asia, Australia, South America — everywhere — fear war, trade breakdowns, energy shocks, or global instability just because America can’t get its own home in order?

This has nothing to do with left or right anymore. It's about elementary mental health. It's all about stopping a psychopath before they do something irreversible. Because once a war starts, when a country is invaded, when alliances are finally broken, there is no reset button.

Yes, it is because of the Americans. You put the world in this position and you should roll up your damn sleeves and get us back out there. Put him down. Remove him from office. Restrict him. Do what your system allows - but do it fast.

Because the rest of us just want to live, raise our families, pay our bills, and not wake up one morning to find out World War 3 has started because an unpredictable old man wanted to feel powerful one last time.
This is not funny anymore.
It's not theatrical.

This is not acceptable.
Get this nut under control before he destroys everything for everyone else.
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[Wrangler]

That is a significant misuse/abuse of Scripture.

The context is clearly only about spreading the gospel and those who believe.

You’re under the misguided impression that context will save you. Jesus didn’t come to being peace doesn't mean is some way he meant the exact opposite.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the wickedness and ungodliness being done by Trump and his administration

Implied premise rejected. JUSTICE isn’t wicked and ungodly. God says he loves justice and Micah 6:8 commands us to do justice.

America has earned its super power status. Greenland will be better off joining America and I believe the people want to join us.

 

[Wrangler]

Get this nut under control

Trump is in control - and thank God for it.

 

[Justified]

You’re under the misguided impression that context will save you. Jesus didn’t come to being peace doesn't mean is some way he meant the exact opposite.

I am under no such impression. Please read what I actually write. The context determines the meaning of the verse you're referring to. But, as you're completely divorcing it from the context, you're seriously misusing this verse to support evil, and evil done in the name of Christ at that.

Implied premise rejected. JUSTICE isn’t wicked and ungodly. God says he loves justice and Micah 6:8 commands us to do justice.

Not once have I ever implied that justice is wicked and ungodly. What Trump is doing is for Trump and his family and wealthy friends, at the expense of everyone else. There is very little, if any, justice in anything Trump does. He is one of the most corrupt, wicked rulers currently in the world.

America has earned its super power status.

Bingo. That there is the ungodly pride of the U.S. and why God is using Trump as his instrument to bring to the full the sins of the U.S., so that all will know God's judgement on the U.S. is just and right. Trump's narcissism, materialism, racism, sexism, etc., simply reflect those who support him; it's why they support him. It's the biblical equivalent of people gathering false teachers "to suit their own passions" (2 Tim. 4:3).

Greenland will be better off joining America and I believe the people want to join us.

Not even close. The entire world would be better off at this point getting as far away as possible from reliance on the U.S.

 

[Justified]

Trump is in control - and thank God for it.

Do you thank God for the DHS's plaque that reads "One of ours, all of yours"? That is sheer wickedness. I would love to see you provide biblical support that.

The only thing to be thankful for is that God is sovereign and will ultimately bring justice down on Trump, his administration, all those doing the evil work of the administration, such as ICE, and those who blindly follow Trump. God put Trump in power, but to bring judgement on the U.S., and perhaps particularly on the American church.

And another short video worth watching, which proves either Trump and his administration are clueless or they're lying:

 

[Scott Downey]

Do you thank God for the DHS's plaque that reads "One of ours, all of yours"? That is sheer wickedness. I would love to see you provide biblical support that.

The only thing to be thankful for is that God is sovereign and will ultimately bring justice down on Trump, his administration, all those doing the evil work of the administration, such as ICE, and those who blindly follow Trump. God put Trump in power, but to bring judgement on the U.S., and perhaps particularly on the American church.

And another short video worth watching, which proves either Trump and his administration are clueless or they're lying:

So if you could have voted in our election, would you have voted for Harris-Walz?

Who imo were much worse and more ungodly of a choice.

I also expect Vance will make a good POTUS for 2028. I hear Gavin Newsom will run, which is horrendous.

 

[Wrangler]

Do you thank God for the DHS's plaque that reads "One of ours, all of yours"? That is sheer wickedness. I would love to see you provide biblical support that.

You know you lost the argument when you have to rely on lies to support your case. From https://wgno.com/news/politics/ap-t...tion-tensions-seen-as-appealing-to-far-right/

The next day, the Department of Labor posted on X: “One Homeland. One People. One Heritage. Remember who you are, American.” Several Trump critics on the social media site drew a parallel to a notorious Nazi slogan, “One People, One Realm, One Leader.”​

 

[Justified]

So if you could have voted in our election, would you have voted for Harris-Walz?

Absolutely not.

Who imo were much worse and more ungodly of a choice.

Trump and Vance are just as bad and just as ungodly, just in some different ways.

I also expect Vance will make a good POTUS for 2028.

You expect wrong, then. He's every bit as wicked as Trump.

I hear Gavin Newsom will run, which is horrendous.

No worse than Vance.

 

[Justified]

You know you lost the argument when you have to rely on lies to support your case. From https://wgno.com/news/politics/ap-t...tion-tensions-seen-as-appealing-to-far-right/

The next day, the Department of Labor posted on X: “One Homeland. One People. One Heritage. Remember who you are, American.” Several Trump critics on the social media site drew a parallel to a notorious Nazi slogan, “One People, One Realm, One Leader.”​

Which lie did I rely on? Please read again what I said and show me where I said anything about a Nazi slogan.

So, I ask again: Do you thank God for the DHS's plaque that reads "One of ours, all of yours"? I would love to see you provide biblical support that.

 

[Wrangler]

Which lie did I rely on? Please read again what I said and show me where I said anything about a Nazi slogan.

So, I ask again: Do you thank God for the DHS's plaque that reads "One of ours, all of yours"? I would love to see you provide biblical support that.

You are the one who has to re-read. It was critics who invoked the Nazi slogan; it’s not a DHS plague as you claim.

DHS is not even in the story. It’s the Department of Labor posted on X: “One Homeland. One People. One Heritage. Remember who you are, American.”

Get your facts straight. Stop being a false witness.