“Your Father is the Devil”: A Radical Reading of John 8:44 in Light of Religious History

[Luther7]

Agree. Every characteristic of God, His people (Christians) and His Word is mirrored by Satan. You will find parallels everywhere. But what I didn't understand up until a few years ago that Just as Christ knows His sheep, those truly saved, Satan knows his own " helpers" throughout history. They are a mirror image of true believers except they are indwelt with evil spirits instead of the Holy Spirit.

We do the will of our Father, but they do THEIR father's will. While we are being redeemed, they are being indoctrinated. We have a once for all sacrifice in Jesus Christ, but to this very day they make sacrifices to receive power. And so on and so on. But the point is this: it's not a random chaotic group of misfits that have brought the world to this point in time. We live in their society and don't even realize it.

And yet those following the so called "reformers" are following false teachers who thought God wanted them to kill those who rejected the false doctrine they taught. Same goes for the catholics

What are you saying. I'm talking about waking up out of the talmudic spell the world is under.
The Pope, most "evangelists" and the naive Christians who go to church with the "star of David" in the background are in this Babylonian matrix. Time to take sides. Jesus Christ or their "messiah" soon to come.

 

[amigo de christo]

What are you saying. I'm talking about waking up out of the talmudic spell the world is under.
The Pope, most "evangelists" and the naive Christians who go to church with the "star of David" in the background are in this Babylonian matrix. Time to take sides. Jesus Christ or their "messiah" soon to come.

CHOOSE YE THIS DAY JESUS CHRIST . Its all about to hit a peak hour .
Warn all that you can that there is no hope in man , in govts and kingdoms of this world
That natural jerusalem is still in bondage . THE only hope one has IS JESUS CHRIST .
Soon all the worlds religoins will have merged as one under what they beleive is love and is GOD
and all will be centered in JERSUALEM . ITS ALL a delusion . warn all that you can . This is one strong delusion
and it will merge the decieved within christendom with all the false religoins and the world will
beleive it is the will of GOD . But it the dragon my friend .

 

[Luther7]

CHOOSE YE THIS DAY JESUS CHRIST . Its all about to hit a peak hour .
Warn all that you can that there is no hope in man , in govts and kingdoms of this world
That natural jerusalem is still in bondage . THE only hope one has IS JESUS CHRIST .
Soon all the worlds religoins will have merged as one under what they beleive is love and is GOD
and all will be centered in JERSUALEM . ITS ALL a delusion . warn all that you can . This is one strong delusion
and it will merge the decieved within christendom with all the false religoins and the world will
beleive it is the will of GOD . But it the dragon my friend .

I agree wholeheartedly.....it's the serpent in Judaism and Catholicism that is symbolized, as they are working together to do exactly what you said.....to bring the Christians into a new understanding of " moshiach".

( HERE IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION FROM A SIMPLE SEARCH):

Moshiach, or Messiah in English, is a future Jewish king from the Davidic line who is expected to be anointed and lead the Jewish people during a time of peace and redemption. This concept is central to Jewish eschatology and belief, emphasizing the hope for a better future.
Wikipedia Aish
Understanding Moshiach in Judaism
Definition and Role
Moshiach, meaning "the anointed one," is a central figure in Jewish eschatology. He is expected to be a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, anointed with holy oil, who will lead the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. Moshiach is often referred to as "Moshiach ben David" (son of David) and is anticipated to bring peace, rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather all Jews back to Israel.

Key Attributes
Moshiach is characterized by several important attributes:

Political Leader: A strong leader who will unite the Jewish people.
Religious Authority: Well-versed in Jewish law and observant of its commandments.
Military Leader: Expected to win battles for Israel and ensure its safety.
Judge: A fair and righteous judge who makes just decisions.
Beliefs and Expectations
The belief in Moshiach is a fundamental aspect of Jewish faith, as outlined in the Thirteen Principles of Faith by Maimonides. Orthodox Jews maintain that they must await Moshiach's arrival, believing that he will come in due time, even if he seems delayed.

Timeline for Arrival
Traditionally, Jewish texts suggest that the world will exist for 6,000 years, with Moshiach expected to arrive before this period ends. Calculations vary, but some scholars suggest a timeframe around the year 2240 in the Gregorian calendar.

Contemporary Views
While many Jews hold a traditional belief in Moshiach, some modern interpretations exist. Certain groups believe that Moshiach has already come or is present in a spiritual sense, reflecting diverse understandings within the Jewish community.
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This is where it's going. That why you have all this confusion and NO HARMONY between " "christians" today. They are under STRONG DELUSION just like you pointed out.

 

[Lambano]

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree wholeheartedly.....it's the serpent in Judaism and Catholicism that is symbolized, as they are working together to do exactly what you said.....to bring the Christians into a new understanding of " moshiach".

( HERE IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION FROM A SIMPLE SEARCH):

Moshiach, or Messiah in English, is a future Jewish king from the Davidic line who is expected to be anointed and lead the Jewish people during a time of peace and redemption. This concept is central to Jewish eschatology and belief, emphasizing the hope for a better future.
Wikipedia Aish
Understanding Moshiach in Judaism
Definition and Role
Moshiach, meaning "the anointed one," is a central figure in Jewish eschatology. He is expected to be a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, anointed with holy oil, who will lead the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. Moshiach is often referred to as "Moshiach ben David" (son of David) and is anticipated to bring peace, rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather all Jews back to Israel.

Key Attributes
Moshiach is characterized by several important attributes:

Political Leader: A strong leader who will unite the Jewish people.
Religious Authority: Well-versed in Jewish law and observant of its commandments.
Military Leader: Expected to win battles for Israel and ensure its safety.
Judge: A fair and righteous judge who makes just decisions.
Beliefs and Expectations
The belief in Moshiach is a fundamental aspect of Jewish faith, as outlined in the Thirteen Principles of Faith by Maimonides. Orthodox Jews maintain that they must await Moshiach's arrival, believing that he will come in due time, even if he seems delayed.

Timeline for Arrival
Traditionally, Jewish texts suggest that the world will exist for 6,000 years, with Moshiach expected to arrive before this period ends. Calculations vary, but some scholars suggest a timeframe around the year 2240 in the Gregorian calendar.

Contemporary Views
While many Jews hold a traditional belief in Moshiach, some modern interpretations exist. Certain groups believe that Moshiach has already come or is present in a spiritual sense, reflecting diverse understandings within the Jewish community.
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This is where it's going. That why you have all this confusion and NO HARMONY between " "christians" today. They are under STRONG DELUSION just like you pointed out.

And yet what does this spirit seem to point them too . a h in t , IT AINT F AITH IN JESUS CHRIST
it is faith in another , this is that spirit of anti christ that ye heard should come and even NOW is it and has it been
IN THE WORLD . they seek the earthen for their hopes b e in men and not GOD .
And they cry let us be one peoples under one God for we all are coming to him in different ways .
THAT BE OF ANTI CHRIST . FOR HE who denies JESUS is the CHRIST is anti christ .
And this people heads from darkness unto greater darkness
and say ALAS WE SEE , WE SEE THE LIGHT , and therefore their sin remains .
For their light , their so called love , their so called plan of peace n safety for this wo rld
HAS DENIED the absolute dire need to have had to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
And this people runs blindly to a god that might preach love and might claim this be the way
to GOD and the will of GOD for peace , BUT ITS PEACE will destroy many
ITS peace BE NOT OF GOD but of men and of that which be of anti christ and the mystery of inquity
swells . WOE unto thee who put darkness FOR LIGHT
But no marvel . FOR even satan can appear as an angel of Light , though he be of the darkness .
SO too can his men wear wool , and can profess to KNOW HIM , TO KNOW GOD
and yet they lead this world to the day OF ITS OWN DESTRUCTION and FAR from THE ONLY GOD and HIS CHRIST
who could have saved them .

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree wholeheartedly.....it's the serpent in Judaism and Catholicism that is symbolized, as they are working together to do exactly what you said.....to bring the Christians into a new understanding of " moshiach".

( HERE IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION FROM A SIMPLE SEARCH):

Moshiach, or Messiah in English, is a future Jewish king from the Davidic line who is expected to be anointed and lead the Jewish people during a time of peace and redemption. This concept is central to Jewish eschatology and belief, emphasizing the hope for a better future.
Wikipedia Aish
Understanding Moshiach in Judaism
Definition and Role
Moshiach, meaning "the anointed one," is a central figure in Jewish eschatology. He is expected to be a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, anointed with holy oil, who will lead the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. Moshiach is often referred to as "Moshiach ben David" (son of David) and is anticipated to bring peace, rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather all Jews back to Israel.

Key Attributes
Moshiach is characterized by several important attributes:

Political Leader: A strong leader who will unite the Jewish people.
Religious Authority: Well-versed in Jewish law and observant of its commandments.
Military Leader: Expected to win battles for Israel and ensure its safety.
Judge: A fair and righteous judge who makes just decisions.
Beliefs and Expectations
The belief in Moshiach is a fundamental aspect of Jewish faith, as outlined in the Thirteen Principles of Faith by Maimonides. Orthodox Jews maintain that they must await Moshiach's arrival, believing that he will come in due time, even if he seems delayed.

Timeline for Arrival
Traditionally, Jewish texts suggest that the world will exist for 6,000 years, with Moshiach expected to arrive before this period ends. Calculations vary, but some scholars suggest a timeframe around the year 2240 in the Gregorian calendar.

Contemporary Views
While many Jews hold a traditional belief in Moshiach, some modern interpretations exist. Certain groups believe that Moshiach has already come or is present in a spiritual sense, reflecting diverse understandings within the Jewish community.
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This is where it's going. That why you have all this confusion and NO HARMONY between " "christians" today. They are under STRONG DELUSION just like you pointed out.

As in the days of the prophet john who came
to make ready a peoples for CHRIST
so too has another dark spirit been at work
to prepare this people unto that which be of anti christ .
John preached repentance in the wilderness
This one came in by false love to preach Acceptance of sins and to bring them all the idea UNBELEIF IN CHRIST is fine
so long as one loved his neighbor .
And this spirit points to a god who has made the path to WHAT THEY SO THINK is GOD very broad
as it now accepts sins and even unbelief .
ITS LOVE be NOT OF GOD , ITs peace be not of GOD .
FOR had ones love BEEN OF G OD , HAD ones peace been of GOD
THE MESSAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE VERY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
by which if a man does beleive , HE IS saved and RECONCILED TO GOD and HAS PEACE with GOD .
This false love only reconciles man to man , NOT TO GOD and the only god
that would dare to have done such a thing , was cast out of heaven .
Ecuemincal interfaith WILL END them all on the great and mighty Day of THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY .
For its love WAS NOT FOR GOD
Had it been IT WOULD HAVE LOVED CHRIST who came OF GOD .
No its love has called GOD A LIAR .
FOR HE who beleives NOT the testimony GOD gave of the SON , DOES call GOD A LIAR .
This god cannot save them . This god has been in the garden
and it has always led man to REBELLION TO GOD . HE is a liar and the father of lies
But will act and behave as though what he says IS FOR THE GOOD of humanity
WHEN IN TRUTH it is meant ONLY FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I'm talking about waking up out of the talmudic spell the world is under.

The reformers taught much false doctrine and their heresy is far more widespread than anything coming out of the talmud

Time to take sides. Jesus Christ or their "messiah" soon to come.

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Very few are actually saved.

 

[Luther7]

The reformers taught much false doctrine and their heresy is far more widespread than anything coming out of the talmud




Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Very few are actually saved.

Yes you are right , there is only a remnant saved by grace. But I don't understand how you could compare the reformation to an anti-christ religion . The only exception to your comparison would be the theologians that were influenced/ indoctrinated/ or working with global jewry.

 

[Luther7]

As in the days of the prophet john who came
to make ready a peoples for CHRIST
so too has another dark spirit been at work
to prepare this people unto that which be of anti christ .
John preached repentance in the wilderness
This one came in by false love to preach Acceptance of sins and to bring them all the idea UNBELEIF IN CHRIST is fine
so long as one loved his neighbor .
And this spirit points to a god who has made the path to WHAT THEY SO THINK is GOD very broad
as it now accepts sins and even unbelief .
ITS LOVE be NOT OF GOD , ITs peace be not of GOD .
FOR had ones love BEEN OF G OD , HAD ones peace been of GOD
THE MESSAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE VERY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
by which if a man does beleive , HE IS saved and RECONCILED TO GOD and HAS PEACE with GOD .
This false love only reconciles man to man , NOT TO GOD and the only god
that would dare to have done such a thing , was cast out of heaven .
Ecuemincal interfaith WILL END them all on the great and mighty Day of THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY .
For its love WAS NOT FOR GOD
Had it been IT WOULD HAVE LOVED CHRIST who came OF GOD .
No its love has called GOD A LIAR .
FOR HE who beleives NOT the testimony GOD gave of the SON , DOES call GOD A LIAR .
This god cannot save them . This god has been in the garden
and it has always led man to REBELLION TO GOD . HE is a liar and the father of lies
But will act and behave as though what he says IS FOR THE GOOD of humanity
WHEN IN TRUTH it is meant ONLY FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION .

Well said. If you are in a church and you make a critical observation of what Israel is doing and Judaism in general, you are automatically shunned and called an ANTISEMITE. No one is allowed critical thinking regarding these people.
I cannot imagine seven years from now.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well said. If you are in a church and you make a critical observation of what Israel is doing and Judaism in general, you are automatically shunned and called an ANTISEMITE. No one is allowed critical thinking regarding these people.
I cannot imagine seven years from now.

and its even more than that my friend .
due to the judge not , taken out of text , card
If one ev en stands to read the bible and what they read
in the church exposes sin , specially certain politically correct sins
ITS the same , you are accused of being a hater , a zenophobe , a homophobe
and etc .
Now its getting so bad that if when one tries to s tand and defend the gospel
of ye MUST believe on JESUS to be saved , THEY doing it again . As in dont judge the muslim
dont judge the hindu , buddist , ye know not their hearts , their are good people , SAY THEY , in every religion .
EVEN the gospel is being shut down .
We seen this first with the jews as they silenced those who spoke truth
and had said THE TRUE CHILDREN of GOD are not those of the flesh , but those who BELIEVE in JESUS .
This leaven has been growing because the church wont correct sin.
Tis all about the creation of a love religoin
that was meant to reconcile all religoins as well as even athiest and
etc to b e as one people , with one mind , one common g oal , one common agenda .
AND IT AINT under GOD either . Someone and his co workers has been real
busy infiltrating to make ready a people who beleive they follow love and that love is OF GOD .
Only ..............IT AINT . satan has recreated an image of what HE calls GOD and HE calls love
in order to merge the decieved religoins and the decieved within christendom
to be as one . And this will soon lead to the era of great crusades
against the few who did not conform to the image of what this d ark one convinced them all was GOD .
WE had better beware for many are being led right into its web .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well said. If you are in a church and you make a critical observation of what Israel is doing and Judaism in general, you are automatically shunned and called an ANTISEMITE. No one is allowed critical thinking regarding these people.
I cannot imagine seven years from now.

The next time you hear a man say
Dont judge that there are good people in all religoins ,
TRY REMINDING THEM that NONE IS GOOD buT GOD
and thus ALL NEED TO BELEIVE ON THE RISEN SAVOIR JESUS for to be saved and justified
from all things by which no man can be justified by the law .
We are witnessing , not the beginning of decay , but severe advanced decay through years and years
and years and years of manipulation of men gone wrong . SO its up to the sheep
to stand and to contend for the true faith , in hopes some will hear and repent . But we will be hated
as was CHRIST . so marvel not if many do reject us and the truth we do bring .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I don't understand how you could compare the reformation to an anti-christ religion

They teach doctrines of devils.

They do this by twisting scripture which they got from their daddy the devil.

And of course the catholics twist scriptures even worse which they got from their daddy the devil.

the theologians that were influenced/ indoctrinated/ or working with global jewry.

Racist much?

Some nutjobs suffer from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)
and some nutjobs suffer from JDS (Jewish Derangement Syndrome)

And just like those suffering from TDS who claim everything is Trump's fault, the JDS people claim everything is the Jews fault as they got to get in touch with their inner Adolf Hitler and express their hatred for the Jews.

 

[Luther7]

The next time you hear a man say
Dont judge that there are good people in all religoins ,
TRY REMINDING THEM that NONE IS GOOD buT GOD
and thus ALL NEED TO BELEIVE ON THE RISEN SAVOIR JESUS for to be saved and justified
from all things by which no man can be justified by the law .
We are witnessing , not the beginning of decay , but severe advanced decay through years and years
and years and years of manipulation of men gone wrong . SO its up to the sheep
to stand and to contend for the true faith , in hopes some will hear and repent . But we will be hated
as was CHRIST . so marvel not if many do reject us and the truth we do bring .

Yes brother and that's where we are headed. It's by God's mercy that He saved us and has shown us these things.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Yes brother and that's where we are headed. It's by God's mercy that He saved us and has shown us these things.

But you claim to believe in universalism claiming all will go to Heaven even though who reject the Lord and live in sin

Are you living in sin rejecting the Lord too?

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes brother and that's where we are headed. It's by God's mercy that He saved us and has shown us these things.

The LORD is our hope and our salvation . Let all that draws breath praise the glorious LORD .
And contend for the true faith to the last breath .

 

[amigo de christo]

But you claim to believe in universalism claiming all will go to Heaven even though who reject the Lord and live in sin

Are you living in sin rejecting the Lord too?

Every word of the LORD is truth . And he warned massively of what would befall and become
unto all who failed to beleive on HIM . I tell us all worse than ever it was for even sodom for those who rejected CHRIST JESUS .
WE must preach JESUS to the last and final breath ebbs out of these lungs . The lake of fire is real .
And all unbelievers , as it is written and s tated in revelation , WILL have their part in the lake of fire .
Let all that has b reath STAND FIRM on the ONE TRUE GOSPEL
and never once preach unbelief to one soul . EITHER WE TR ULY BELEIVE as do a child
OR we decieve ourselves . IT cannot be BOTH BELEIF and UNBELIEF . always remember that .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Every word of the LORD is truth . And he warned massively of what would befall and become
unto all who failed to beleive on HIM . I tell us all worse than ever it was for even sodom for those who rejected CHRIST JESUS .
WE must preach JESUS to the last and final breath ebbs out of these lungs . The lake of fire is real .
And all unbelievers , as it is written and s tated in revelation , WILL have their part in the lake of fire .
Let all that has b reath STAND FIRM on the ONE TRUE GOSPEL
and never once preach unbelief to one soul . EITHER WE TR ULY BELEIVE as do a child
OR we decieve ourselves . IT cannot be BOTH BELEIF and UNBELIEF . always remember that .

@amigo de christo

 

[Luther7]

But you claim to believe in universalism claiming all will go to Heaven even though who reject the Lord and live in sin

Are you living in sin rejecting the Lord too?

No. I don't believe that. I believe that if Christ paid for your sins at one point in your life He will save you.
Universal atonement is the false belief that Jesus paid for the sins of all humanity.

 

[Luther7]

They teach doctrines of devils.

They do this by twisting scripture which they got from their daddy the devil.

And of course the catholics twist scriptures even worse which they got from their daddy the devil.




Racist much? View attachment 78162

Some nutjobs suffer from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)
and some nutjobs suffer from JDS (Jewish Derangement Syndrome)

And just like those suffering from TDS who claim everything is Trump's fault, the JDS people claim everything is the Jews fault as they got to get in touch with their inner Adolf Hitler and express their hatred for the Jews.

Sounds like you aren't awake yet to the JQ.
BELIEVE YOU ME, I would rather it not be this way. However, satan, the master deceiver, lives throughout time. He has a certain amount of knowledge of things to come. So follow me out here, please.....

God used national Israel to be His earthly representation of His kingdom. He gave them free will to obey His law. They failed. They ( with the exception of a remnant) worshipped other gods, representative of Satan.

This relationship with the devil went from Babylon, to the time of Moses, to the time of the Pharisees, which became an official religion by 500 AD, which continues to this day. REVELATION 18 MYSTERY SOLVED.

But we must keep in mind that they are " Jews" in name only, just like the Pharisees claimed to be Abrahams seed.

MOST IMPORTANT THING: They are a NATION of people within many nations, and almost have complete control. Almost. They will the second the Holy Spirit removes His protection on humanity. Then you will see "Bolshevism 6.0" , not with brute force, but unknowing, indoctrinated surrender. Unless you proclaim that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. That's what it's all about my friend. His name is over all.

 

[JLB]

3. “No One Has Seen the Father” — But Moses Saw YHWH

John makes another bold theological claim:

> “No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, has made him known.” (John 1:18)
“Not that anyone has seen the Father except him who is from God; he has seen the Father.” (John 6:46)

‘Jesus is LORD; YHWH


Moses was seeing The Son of God, as did Abraham.

Not God the Father.