From the pen of Ellen White

[amigo de christo]

I don't understand words like that. I have a learning disability. You'll have to ask in baby language.

friend . you aint dumb . come now let us reason together . You really think that .
What i am saying even a young man with DOWNS syndrome UNDERSTOOD .
I heard a young man with DOWNS syndrome . DOWNS syndrome
speak far more simple truth and exposed many false pastors .
A young man with DOWN syndrome knew more than most pastors . AINT that something .
You aint dumb , what i speak is basic simple truth .
ONLY JESUS SAVES
AND ONE MUST BELIEVE IN HIM to be saved .
And that JESUS is not the minstir of any sin . HE DONT hold rainbows , he dont honor homosexuality
HE dont honor the love of money
HE Dont agree WITH ANY SIN .
ALL other religoins are in darkness . JUST like we all once were , IN DARKNESS .
ONLY ONE WAY to FREED from the POWER of satan and darkness .
JESUS THE CHRIST . TIME TO BELEIVE ON HIM , and TIME to remind all OF THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON HIM
or they will surely PERISH . pretty simple if ya ask me . ITS HIS OWN WORDS .

 

[amigo de christo]

I didn't say I'm dumb. I said I struggle to understand complicated words. I need simple vocabulary. What I said in my previous message was that there is only one truth (the Bible verses I gave you). And that truth is Jesus. The Bible even says Jesus is the truth. "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6

Just remember that same JESUS warned more than once of the DIRE NEED to BELEIVE ON HIM
and my goodness look at how serverly he warned those who beleived not .
THERE Is no fairy tale ending for unbeleivers .
BUT THERE IS ETERNAL LIFE for THOSE WHO DO and DID BELEIVE ON HIM .

 

[amigo de christo]

It is all about love and truth in the end. Jesus is love. His Commandments are love. He draws with love and truth.

What version of love and whose version of truth .
THAT be the question needed to be asked big time to this generation .
JESUS IS LOVE . YOU are right about that
and the apostels knew HIS love .
NOW lets see how they went about preaching and teaching .
BE PREPARED to see lots of warnings and shaking of dust .
GOD IS LOVE . no doubt about that .
But what most dont realize is
MOST all of chrisetendom has been using that phrase
GOD IS LOVE , JESUS IS LOVE
only THEY LED US TO THE WRONG god baby . THE Wrong god . ITS THE version of the worlds love they preach .
THIS IS A SOLID fact friend .
SO lets clear this up , LETS SEE who we have been following all along .
LETS OPEN the bible and see what JESUS said and did
and see what the apostels said and did in acts
And then read their letters to the churches
AND then read the revelation GIVEN TO JOHN by GOD BY CHRIST WHO IS LOVE and desires NOT
the destuction but rather repentance .
OH BUT DO BE PREPARED to see what most see as HATE SPEECH and as hate coming FROM HIS MOUTH .
WE have been DECIEVED . BIG TIME
What folks dont seem to realize is SATAN can quoate scrip
SO HE CAN say GOD IS LOVE as can his minstirs and YET He leads one RIGHT TO HIM , TO HIS version of love
TO his verison of WHAT HE SAYS IS GOD , only ITS HIM , NOT GOD . BIBLE TIME f riend . test me ON THIS . read it .

 

[Brakelite]

@Big Boy Johnson said...
She didn't meet the biblical requirement to be a public minister

Because of this she should be ignored as we know she was not anointed by the Holy Spirit and she certainly did not speak Truth

I beg to differ... No-one not anointed by the Holy Spirit could write this very small example among her numerous books, articles, letters and manuscripts... certainly not a false prophet who by their very nature and purpose lead people away from God to themselves.



It is impossible for us, of ourselves, to escape from the pit of sin in which we are sunken. Our hearts are evil, and we cannot change them. “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.” “The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” Job 14:4; Romans 8:7. Education, culture, the exercise of the will, human effort, all have their proper sphere, but here they are powerless. They may produce an outward correctness of behavior, but they cannot change the heart; they cannot purify the springs of life. There must be a power working from within, a new life from above, before men can be changed from sin to holiness. That power is Christ. His grace alone can quicken the lifeless faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.

The Saviour said, “Except a man be born from above,” unless he shall receive a new heart, new desires, purposes, and motives, leading to a new life, “he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3, margin. The idea that it is necessary only to develop the good that exists in man by nature, is a fatal deception. “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” 1 Corinthians 2:14; John 3:7. Of Christ it is written, “In Him was life; and the life was the light of men”—the only “name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” John 1:4; Acts 4:12.

It is not enough to perceive the loving-kindness of God, to see the benevolence, the fatherly tenderness, of His character. It is not enough to discern the wisdom and justice of His law, to see that it is founded upon the eternal principle of love. Paul the apostle saw all this when he exclaimed, “I consent unto the law that it is good.” “The law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” But he added, in the bitterness of his soul-anguish and despair, “I am carnal, sold under sin.” Romans 7:16, 12, 14. He longed for the purity, the righteousness, to which in himself he was powerless to attain, and cried out, “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?” Romans 7:24, margin. Such is the cry that has gone up from burdened hearts in all lands and in all ages. To all, there is but one answer, “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29.

Many are the figures by which the Spirit of God has sought to illustrate this truth, and make it plain to souls that long to be freed from the burden of guilt. When, after his sin in deceiving Esau, Jacob fled from his father’s home, he was weighed down with a sense of guilt. Lonely and outcast as he was, separated from all that had made life dear, the one thought that above all others pressed upon his soul, was the fear that his sin had cut him off from God, that he was forsaken of Heaven. In sadness he lay down to rest on the bare earth, around him only the lonely hills, and above, the heavens bright with stars. As he slept, a strange light broke upon his vision; and lo, from the plain on which he lay, vast shadowy stairs seemed to lead upward to the very gates of heaven, and upon them angels of God were passing up and down; while from the glory above, the divine voice was heard in a message of comfort and hope. Thus was made known to Jacob that which met the need and longing of his soul—a Saviour. With joy and gratitude he saw revealed a way by which he, a sinner, could be restored to communion with God. The mystic ladder of his dream represented Jesus, the only medium of communication between God and man.

This is the same figure to which Christ referred in His conversation with Nathanael, when He said, “Ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.” John 1:51. In the apostasy, man alienated himself from God; earth was cut off from heaven. Across the gulf that lay between, there could be no communion. But through Christ, earth is again linked with heaven. With His own merits, Christ has bridged the gulf which sin had made, so that the ministering angels can hold communion with man. Christ connects fallen man in his weakness and helplessness with the Source of infinite power.

But in vain are men’s dreams of progress, in vain all efforts for the uplifting of humanity, if they neglect the one Source of hope and help for the fallen race. “Every good gift and every perfect gift” (James 1:17) is from God. There is no true excellence of character apart from Him. And the only way to God is Christ. He says, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.” John 14:6.

The heart of God yearns over His earthly children with a love stronger than death. In giving up His Son, He has poured out to us all heaven in one gift. The Saviour’s life and death and intercession, the ministry of angels, the pleading of the Spirit, the Father working above and through all, the unceasing interest of heavenly beings,—all are enlisted in behalf of man’s redemption.

Oh, let us contemplate the amazing sacrifice that has been made for us! Let us try to appreciate the labor and energy that Heaven is expending to reclaim the lost, and bring them back to the Father’s house. Motives stronger, and agencies more powerful, could never be brought into operation; the exceeding rewards for right-doing, the enjoyment of heaven, the society of the angels, the communion and love of God and His Son, the elevation and extension of all our powers throughout eternal ages—are these not mighty incentives and encouragements to urge us to give the heart’s loving service to our Creator and Redeemer?

And, on the other hand, the judgments of God pronounced against sin, the inevitable retribution, the degradation of our character, and the final destruction, are presented in God’s word to warn us against the service of Satan.

Shall we not regard the mercy of God? What more could He do? Let us place ourselves in right relation to Him who has loved us with amazing love. Let us avail ourselves of the means provided for us that we may be transformed into His likeness, and be restored to fellowship with the ministering angels, to harmony and communion with the Father and the Son.

Steps to Christ 18.1 - 22.1

 

[amigo de christo]

@Big Boy Johnson said...
She didn't meet the biblical requirement to be a public minister

Because of this she should be ignored as we know she was not anointed by the Holy Spirit and she certainly did not speak Truth

I beg to differ... No-one not anointed by the Holy Spirit could write this very small example among her numerous books, articles, letters and manuscripts... certainly not a false prophet who by their very nature and purpose lead people away from God to themselves.



It is impossible for us, of ourselves, to escape from the pit of sin in which we are sunken. Our hearts are evil, and we cannot change them. “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.” “The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” Job 14:4; Romans 8:7. Education, culture, the exercise of the will, human effort, all have their proper sphere, but here they are powerless. They may produce an outward correctness of behavior, but they cannot change the heart; they cannot purify the springs of life. There must be a power working from within, a new life from above, before men can be changed from sin to holiness. That power is Christ. His grace alone can quicken the lifeless faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.

The Saviour said, “Except a man be born from above,” unless he shall receive a new heart, new desires, purposes, and motives, leading to a new life, “he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3, margin. The idea that it is necessary only to develop the good that exists in man by nature, is a fatal deception. “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” 1 Corinthians 2:14; John 3:7. Of Christ it is written, “In Him was life; and the life was the light of men”—the only “name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” John 1:4; Acts 4:12.

It is not enough to perceive the loving-kindness of God, to see the benevolence, the fatherly tenderness, of His character. It is not enough to discern the wisdom and justice of His law, to see that it is founded upon the eternal principle of love. Paul the apostle saw all this when he exclaimed, “I consent unto the law that it is good.” “The law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” But he added, in the bitterness of his soul-anguish and despair, “I am carnal, sold under sin.” Romans 7:16, 12, 14. He longed for the purity, the righteousness, to which in himself he was powerless to attain, and cried out, “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?” Romans 7:24, margin. Such is the cry that has gone up from burdened hearts in all lands and in all ages. To all, there is but one answer, “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29.

Many are the figures by which the Spirit of God has sought to illustrate this truth, and make it plain to souls that long to be freed from the burden of guilt. When, after his sin in deceiving Esau, Jacob fled from his father’s home, he was weighed down with a sense of guilt. Lonely and outcast as he was, separated from all that had made life dear, the one thought that above all others pressed upon his soul, was the fear that his sin had cut him off from God, that he was forsaken of Heaven. In sadness he lay down to rest on the bare earth, around him only the lonely hills, and above, the heavens bright with stars. As he slept, a strange light broke upon his vision; and lo, from the plain on which he lay, vast shadowy stairs seemed to lead upward to the very gates of heaven, and upon them angels of God were passing up and down; while from the glory above, the divine voice was heard in a message of comfort and hope. Thus was made known to Jacob that which met the need and longing of his soul—a Saviour. With joy and gratitude he saw revealed a way by which he, a sinner, could be restored to communion with God. The mystic ladder of his dream represented Jesus, the only medium of communication between God and man.

This is the same figure to which Christ referred in His conversation with Nathanael, when He said, “Ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.” John 1:51. In the apostasy, man alienated himself from God; earth was cut off from heaven. Across the gulf that lay between, there could be no communion. But through Christ, earth is again linked with heaven. With His own merits, Christ has bridged the gulf which sin had made, so that the ministering angels can hold communion with man. Christ connects fallen man in his weakness and helplessness with the Source of infinite power.

But in vain are men’s dreams of progress, in vain all efforts for the uplifting of humanity, if they neglect the one Source of hope and help for the fallen race. “Every good gift and every perfect gift” (James 1:17) is from God. There is no true excellence of character apart from Him. And the only way to God is Christ. He says, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.” John 14:6.

The heart of God yearns over His earthly children with a love stronger than death. In giving up His Son, He has poured out to us all heaven in one gift. The Saviour’s life and death and intercession, the ministry of angels, the pleading of the Spirit, the Father working above and through all, the unceasing interest of heavenly beings,—all are enlisted in behalf of man’s redemption.

Oh, let us contemplate the amazing sacrifice that has been made for us! Let us try to appreciate the labor and energy that Heaven is expending to reclaim the lost, and bring them back to the Father’s house. Motives stronger, and agencies more powerful, could never be brought into operation; the exceeding rewards for right-doing, the enjoyment of heaven, the society of the angels, the communion and love of God and His Son, the elevation and extension of all our powers throughout eternal ages—are these not mighty incentives and encouragements to urge us to give the heart’s loving service to our Creator and Redeemer?

And, on the other hand, the judgments of God pronounced against sin, the inevitable retribution, the degradation of our character, and the final destruction, are presented in God’s word to warn us against the service of Satan.

Shall we not regard the mercy of God? What more could He do? Let us place ourselves in right relation to Him who has loved us with amazing love. Let us avail ourselves of the means provided for us that we may be transformed into His likeness, and be restored to fellowship with the ministering angels, to harmony and communion with the Father and the Son.

Steps to Christ 18.1 - 22.1

even the false prophets of the nar realm
or of the RCC and etc can speak truths .
but lets not forget she sat under A DATE SETTER who missed the date not on ce but twice
THEN reinvents a w hole other idea that birthed a whole other religon .
For example i could have written something just like this . YET STILL i know ellen is dangerous .
SO just cause i can write a truth does that mean i am now to be followed .
NOPE , one has to examine ALL THINGS she did and said . AND friend SHE FELL FAR SHORT with her investigative judgment
LET alone i have watched how the SDA twists the heck out of hebrews .
SO this people needs to know all about that investigative judgment . cause if they do , THEY GONNA RUN
from that lady .
I already told you that the SDA has some good truths within it , but it has ER ROR as well .
SO lets go ahead and start fresh in the bible .
You have my word , I WONT be bringing methodist teachi ngs , b aptist ones and etc
JUST BIBLE .
NOW I SUGGEST you DO the same . THEN watch how things will more and more get cleared up in time .

 

[Scott Downey]

even the false prophets of the nar realm
or of the RCC and etc can speak truths .
but lets not forget she sat under A DATE SETTER who missed the date not on ce but twice
THEN reinvents a w hole other idea that birthed a whole other religon .
For example i could have written something just like this . YET STILL i know ellen is dangerous .
SO just cause i can write a truth does that mean i am now to be followed .
NOPE , one has to examine ALL THINGS she did and said . AND friend SHE FELL FAR SHORT with her investigative judgment
LET alone i have watched how the SDA twists the heck out of hebrews .
SO this people needs to know all about that investigative judgment . cause if they do , THEY GONNA RUN
from that lady .
I already told you that the SDA has some good truths within it , but it has ER ROR as well .
SO lets go ahead and start fresh in the bible .
You have my word , I WONT be bringing methodist teachi ngs , b aptist ones and etc
JUST BIBLE .
NOW I SUGGEST you DO the same . THEN watch how things will more and more get cleared up in time .

Date setters keep on setting dates and times which only the Father knows. Jesus told us it is not for us to know what the Father has set under His own authority. He specifically told them they will never know the time. I wonder why people try to go against what God and Christ have said.

If Christ had told us what year etc... that knowledge would have been abused and too much for human minds to know.

It would be like knowing the exact date and time of your death, now what would various people do if they knew that.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

She didn't meet the biblical requirement to be a public minister

God never anointed women to be pastors, deacons, or church leaders.
He does anoint women to be helpers to help in the ministry, but not to be leaders

God created men first and then

Those that accept the whole counsel of God know this.

Those that are cherry pickers only believing bits and pieces of God's Word do not.

1 Corinthians 11:8,9
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Quote from - 1 Timothy 2:12,13
I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man

Concerning 1 Timothy 2:8-15
The Lord Jesus teaching thru Paul gave two reasons, both of them are theological not cultural.

1. The created order: Adam was first created as an independent person, then Eve was created from his rib to be his
helper. She was therefore not created to be independent of the man in authority.

2. Eve, and consequently all women, were placed under a penalty of the curse. This included pain in childbearing and
that her husband would rule over her.

No-one not anointed by the Holy Spirit could write this very small example among her numerous books, articles, letters and manuscripts... certainly not a false prophet who by their very nature and purpose lead people away from God to themselves.

She was anointed alright, just by spirits not from the Lord Jesus

Her demanding to be in authority over men, her false doctrine and her failed prophecies prove that

 

[amigo de christo]

Date setters keep on setting dates and times which only the Father knows. Jesus told us it is not for us to know what the Father has set under His own authority. He specifically told them they will never know the time. I wonder why people try to go against what God and Christ have said.

If Christ had told us what year etc... that knowledge would have been abused and too much for human minds to know.

It would be like knowing the exact date and time of your death, now what would various people do if they knew that.

Thus what do we say to a date setter , NOT today , we aint HEEDING YOU .
that is what ellen sh ou ld have told miller
but no , she stays under him , his misses it twice
AND STILL she cannot let go so Investigative judgment was born . And thus a whole new sect was born .
And that my friend is why I DO not enter into such a sect . bible time in the house .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I wonder why people try to go against what God and Christ have said.

Simple, they do not accept the whole counsel of God.

They be cherry pickers ya know.

 

[Button]

Still a cult. May be a Christian cult- but still a cult. Just like romanism and others.

Christianity's origin is as a 1st century Jewish sect that later morphed into a separatist cult,by the definition, a social group characterized by high-intensity devotion to a particular person, object, or belief system.

 

[Button]

@Big Boy Johnson said...
She didn't meet the biblical requirement to be a public minister

Because of this she should be ignored as we know she was not anointed by the Holy Spirit and she certainly did not speak Truth

I beg to differ... No-one not anointed by the Holy Spirit could write this very small example among her numerous books, articles, letters and manuscripts... certainly not a false prophet who by their very nature and purpose lead people away from God to themselves.



It is impossible for us, of ourselves, to escape from the pit of sin in which we are sunken. Our hearts are evil, and we cannot change them. “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.” “The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” Job 14:4; Romans 8:7. Education, culture, the exercise of the will, human effort, all have their proper sphere, but here they are powerless. They may produce an outward correctness of behavior, but they cannot change the heart; they cannot purify the springs of life. There must be a power working from within, a new life from above, before men can be changed from sin to holiness. That power is Christ. His grace alone can quicken the lifeless faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.

The Saviour said, “Except a man be born from above,” unless he shall receive a new heart, new desires, purposes, and motives, leading to a new life, “he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3, margin. The idea that it is necessary only to develop the good that exists in man by nature, is a fatal deception. “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” 1 Corinthians 2:14; John 3:7. Of Christ it is written, “In Him was life; and the life was the light of men”—the only “name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” John 1:4; Acts 4:12.

It is not enough to perceive the loving-kindness of God, to see the benevolence, the fatherly tenderness, of His character. It is not enough to discern the wisdom and justice of His law, to see that it is founded upon the eternal principle of love. Paul the apostle saw all this when he exclaimed, “I consent unto the law that it is good.” “The law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” But he added, in the bitterness of his soul-anguish and despair, “I am carnal, sold under sin.” Romans 7:16, 12, 14. He longed for the purity, the righteousness, to which in himself he was powerless to attain, and cried out, “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?” Romans 7:24, margin. Such is the cry that has gone up from burdened hearts in all lands and in all ages. To all, there is but one answer, “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29.

Many are the figures by which the Spirit of God has sought to illustrate this truth, and make it plain to souls that long to be freed from the burden of guilt. When, after his sin in deceiving Esau, Jacob fled from his father’s home, he was weighed down with a sense of guilt. Lonely and outcast as he was, separated from all that had made life dear, the one thought that above all others pressed upon his soul, was the fear that his sin had cut him off from God, that he was forsaken of Heaven. In sadness he lay down to rest on the bare earth, around him only the lonely hills, and above, the heavens bright with stars. As he slept, a strange light broke upon his vision; and lo, from the plain on which he lay, vast shadowy stairs seemed to lead upward to the very gates of heaven, and upon them angels of God were passing up and down; while from the glory above, the divine voice was heard in a message of comfort and hope. Thus was made known to Jacob that which met the need and longing of his soul—a Saviour. With joy and gratitude he saw revealed a way by which he, a sinner, could be restored to communion with God. The mystic ladder of his dream represented Jesus, the only medium of communication between God and man.

This is the same figure to which Christ referred in His conversation with Nathanael, when He said, “Ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.” John 1:51. In the apostasy, man alienated himself from God; earth was cut off from heaven. Across the gulf that lay between, there could be no communion. But through Christ, earth is again linked with heaven. With His own merits, Christ has bridged the gulf which sin had made, so that the ministering angels can hold communion with man. Christ connects fallen man in his weakness and helplessness with the Source of infinite power.

But in vain are men’s dreams of progress, in vain all efforts for the uplifting of humanity, if they neglect the one Source of hope and help for the fallen race. “Every good gift and every perfect gift” (James 1:17) is from God. There is no true excellence of character apart from Him. And the only way to God is Christ. He says, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.” John 14:6.

The heart of God yearns over His earthly children with a love stronger than death. In giving up His Son, He has poured out to us all heaven in one gift. The Saviour’s life and death and intercession, the ministry of angels, the pleading of the Spirit, the Father working above and through all, the unceasing interest of heavenly beings,—all are enlisted in behalf of man’s redemption.

Oh, let us contemplate the amazing sacrifice that has been made for us! Let us try to appreciate the labor and energy that Heaven is expending to reclaim the lost, and bring them back to the Father’s house. Motives stronger, and agencies more powerful, could never be brought into operation; the exceeding rewards for right-doing, the enjoyment of heaven, the society of the angels, the communion and love of God and His Son, the elevation and extension of all our powers throughout eternal ages—are these not mighty incentives and encouragements to urge us to give the heart’s loving service to our Creator and Redeemer?

And, on the other hand, the judgments of God pronounced against sin, the inevitable retribution, the degradation of our character, and the final destruction, are presented in God’s word to warn us against the service of Satan.

Shall we not regard the mercy of God? What more could He do? Let us place ourselves in right relation to Him who has loved us with amazing love. Let us avail ourselves of the means provided for us that we may be transformed into His likeness, and be restored to fellowship with the ministering angels, to harmony and communion with the Father and the Son.

Steps to Christ 18.1 - 22.1

God anoints those he would choose to deliver his word.

Anyone who thinks gender precludes someone being qualified by God to be his minister of his Gospel is not in the word. But is acting contrary to oneness in Christ. Which tells us who they are.

 

[The Learner]

God never anointed women to be pastors, deacons, or church leaders.
He does anoint women to be helpers to help in the ministry, but not to be leaders

God created men first and then

Those that accept the whole counsel of God know this.

Those that are cherry pickers only believing bits and pieces of God's Word do not.

1 Corinthians 11:8,9
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Quote from - 1 Timothy 2:12,13
I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man

Concerning 1 Timothy 2:8-15
The Lord Jesus teaching thru Paul gave two reasons, both of them are theological not cultural.

1. The created order: Adam was first created as an independent person, then Eve was created from his rib to be his
helper. She was therefore not created to be independent of the man in authority.

2. Eve, and consequently all women, were placed under a penalty of the curse. This included pain in childbearing and
that her husband would rule over her.




She was anointed alright, just by spirits not from the Lord Jesus

Her demanding to be in authority over men, her false doctrine and her failed prophecies prove that

Junia (Romans 16:7) is the primary woman explicitly identified as an apostle in the New Testament, lauded by Paul as prominent among them. While the original Twelve were men, the broader early church recognized women, including Mary Magdalene, as "apostles to the apostles" for their witness to the resurrection. AI

Also, keep me in prayer, twisting eye problem along with shoulders' pain.

 

[Brakelite]

She was anointed alright, just by spirits not from the Lord Jesus

Her demanding to be in authority over men, her false doctrine and her failed prophecies prove that

Proof. All you got is hearsay.

Thus what do we say to a date setter , NOT today , we aint HEEDING YOU .
that is what ellen sh ou ld have told miller
but no , she stays under him , his misses it twice

Like I said. The date was correct the second time, the first time an honest mathematical error. Miller didn't pick the date from a corn flakes packet. He worked it out through studying Daniel, and using protestant historicist hermeneutics, which sadly you have abandoned. The event was wrong, yes. But how do you know the Lord wasnt deliberately allowing the church to make that mistake in order to bring about all greater revelation of truth... which actually happened. But you, preaching from your self appointed pulpit, won't allow that, your constant pontificating that 'the investigative judgment is wrong' won't allow to you even consider you being wrong. Too proud. You claim to have studied the investigative judgment. I say your superficial intent to to look at it was for the sole benefit of proving it wrong. God will allow that with any doctrine. He always leaves room for doubt. And those who have no love for the truth take the bait, and begin to lead others to doubt. They don't show their 'proofs', they don't encourage others to study what Adventists teach, that would be too dangerous for them, and you. They, and you, would be found out.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Junia (Romans 16:7) is the primary woman explicitly identified as an apostle in the New Testament

False doctrine and fake news. She was a helper, not an apostle because God's Word clearly teaches that pastors, deacons and church leaders are MEN, not women.

You are pitting scripture against scripture which is the false claim that some things God says in His Word are lies which is of course what satan has claimed all along.

Romans 16:7
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

This is saying she was known among the Apostles and does not say she was an Apostle.

While the original Twelve were men, the broader early church recognized women, including Mary Magdalene, as "apostles to the apostles" for their witness to the resurrection. AI

Play dumb AI questions games and get dumb AI answers

Those trusting in AI are setting themselves up for deception.

Proof. All you got is hearsay.

She taught things God's Word does not teach so she's a false teacher.

But hey, if you want to follower her go right ahead. It ends badly but whatever, you've been warned.

Like I said. The date was correct the second time

The Lord hasn't returned yet so the second time was lies from the devil just like the first time was.

Have you not read what the Lord said about nobody but the Father knowing when the Lord will return?

Obviously not. But, that's why cults are cults is because they disregard what the Lord says in His Word.

Miller didn't pick the date from a corn flakes packet. He worked it out through studying Daniel, and using protestant historicist hermeneutics

And he STILL got it all wrong

they don't encourage others to study what Adventists teach

WHY would anybody encourage others to study false doctrine?

 

[quietthinker]

And he STILL got it all wrong

Mocking gives you a really good look BBJ.....especially when it's based on an understanding you have never researched！

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Mocking gives you a really good look BBJ.....especially when it's based on an understanding you have never researched！

I have researched it and found from God's Word that women are not to be in authority over men so that's the first red flag as to why I will not be submitting to the teachings of this or any woman.

Secondly she teachings things that are not the Doctrine of Christ

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of
Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

 

[Brakelite]

She taught things God's Word does not teach so she's a false teacher.

So did Einstein and my geography teacher at school. Does that make them false?

But hey, if you want to follower her go right ahead.

No one follows her. We follow Christ, as did she. And I prove that by quoting her writings above. You have nothing.

The Lord hasn't returned yet.

No kidding. But show us all, that 22 October 1844, the fulfillment of Daniel 8:14, was false.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

No one follows her. We follow Christ, as did she. And I prove that by quoting her writings above. You have nothing.

Well you follower her writings and I'll following the writings of the Lord Jesus Christ and we'll see who ends up where

Galatians 2:21
do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

 

[Button]

So did Einstein and my geography teacher at school. Does that make them false?

No one follows her. We follow Christ, as did she. And I prove that by quoting her writings above. You have nothing.

No kidding. But show us all, that 22 October 1844, the fulfillment of Daniel 8:14, was false.

Attacks on Christians are starting to get really desperate in their execution.
The claim about our following Ms.White is as uninformed as the unbelievers who hate Republicans so to claim in voting for Trump, we're worshipping him. For not jumping on their slander bandwagon that lives toassail him,America and Americans.

 

[quietthinker]

I have researched it and found from God's Word that women are not to be in authority over men so that's the first red flag as to why I will not be submitting to the teachings of this or any woman.

Secondly she teachings things that are not the Doctrine of Christ

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of
Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

What you call research is mouthing the opinions of those who have it in their hearts to misrepresent EGW. That sort of 'research' is about as valid as the flat earth theory........and I'm telling you this as a non SDA.
Your blatherings only circle in the world of the uninformed, the ignorant and the hateful.