RepentingChristian
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Hey Genius, if Jews are in control of everything, how is it that they're the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of world history?
Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?
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Hey Genius, if Jews are in control of everything, how is it that they're the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of world history?
Big Boy Johnson
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There is no other country like Israel. One that was created by covenant with the living God. Therefore the fact that they are anti-christ is much bigger issue than some pagan secular state.
Because they despise the Lord Jesus Christ and his people. Do you have any reason to think otherwise?
RepentingChristian
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Only because it's God's will, God's plan. Do you not understand this?
Romans 11:25
Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
I understand it very well.
1)Israel will go through a series of successful judgements that will eradicate all non believing jews and restore faith in the Messiah to the elect jews.( Joel 2:32)
2)Two thirds of Israel will be destroyed by judgement.(Zech 13:8)
3)Half of Jerusalem will be destroyed.(Zech 14:2)
4)The remaining one third elect will cry "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" and repent to have faith in Jesus Christ(Matt 23:39)
5)And so all Israel shall be saved (Rom11:26)
6) Jew and Gentile will be united into an everlasting Messianic Kingdom(Eph 2:15-22)
RepentingChristian
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RepentingChristian
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Do you believe that God is going to kill all the Jews (since they're obviously not following Jesus) and then burn them forever in Hell?
Recently, I started a thread about antisemitism because I have ALWAYS sided with ALL Jews and, just could not understand what anybody had against Jews. I was even a Christian Nationalist! I have 7 years in the Air Force even...come from a pretty military (my mom too) and Christian family. Well, during my search of understanding, I fully believe God has opened my eyes to something that has always been anathema to me; being antisemitic, which I am not and never have been. Both sides of this issue MUST become really, really humble if there is any angst either side then...you will never 'honestly' see any other than one side, period. Satan is so so so so good at deluding and fooling "even the very elect" so if you think you stand...
It has been over 6 months that I have delved, deeply into all avenues available to me to get "understanding". I do not say that any here will ever, ever take the time to watch this young teacher and actually listen to this (video following) ...yes it is long, and the first maybe 4th way through, is pretty elementary but it builds up to some deep stuff. Pray please before, if you do watch all or some of the video so there are no knee jerk reactions. Which I have found in my own life...leads to no good, willful ignorance helps nobody. Being stiff-necked and digging your heels in the dirt, only keeps you ignorant. "Not all Israel is Israel"...Jews who say they are Jews...but lie and are the synagogue of Satan". BTW, also remember that we who are in Christ ARE descendants of Abraham..."no Jew no Greek...ALL ONE in Christ" Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." Galatians 3:28-29
Also: Eph. 2:14-15
14 "For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace."
Here's the video:
It has been over 6 months that I have delved, deeply into all avenues available to me to get "understanding". I do not say that any here will ever, ever take the time to watch this young teacher and actually listen to this (video following) ...yes it is long, and the first maybe 4th way through, is pretty elementary but it builds up to some deep stuff. Pray please before, if you do watch all or some of the video so there are no knee jerk reactions. Which I have found in my own life...leads to no good, willful ignorance helps nobody. Being stiff-necked and digging your heels in the dirt, only keeps you ignorant. "Not all Israel is Israel"...Jews who say they are Jews...but lie and are the synagogue of Satan". BTW, also remember that we who are in Christ ARE descendants of Abraham..."no Jew no Greek...ALL ONE in Christ" Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." Galatians 3:28-29
Also: Eph. 2:14-15
14 "For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace."
Here's the video:
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RepentingChristian
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Isn't God a "Christian Nationalist"? After all, Heaven has gates and walls and only Christians may enter.
quietthinker
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Genocide by Israel in the past.....and in the present is not compatible with loving your enemies.....it doesn't matter which way you turn it......unless of course cognitive dissonance is ones reality......which ultimately amounts to hypocrisy.
quietthinker
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There is no question about it.
quietthinker
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quietthinker
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Isn't it interesting that those who give themselves 'pious' monickers are the ones who are quick to laugh (mock) when hypocrisy is brought to light.
Ro 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Were the dead in Christ resurrected in the 1st century? Were they given immortal bodies in the twinkling of an eye? Did he return the same way he left in Acts 1? Did every eye see him as Rev 1 states? Because that's what happens at the second coming.
No question maybe....just a lie from the pit of hell. Israel has never committed genocide.
RepentingChristian
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Those are great questions but didn't Jesus say that he would return before "this" generation passes?
He was speaking of the generation that would be present once the signs of his coming began to happen.
Mt 24:29-34
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
"This" generation is the one that shall see the signs. This did not happen in the 1st century