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Do you support the war with Iran right now?


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HealthyShape

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to assail Christian Republicans.

1. Are you a Christian first or a Republican/American first?

2. Do you feel closer to a sincere Christian from any foreign country or to an American Republican who is not a sincere Christian? (Let us set language barriers aside, hypothetically).

If you choose "B" options, your Christianity is just cultural, political. I suggest to all MAGA to take this simple test.
 
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It’s bizarre how globalists...
Globalists, globalists... your mantra word.

Christianity is globalist - one global (or even universe-wide, if we want to be futurists) church, the kingdom of God, for people of all ethnicities, colors and nationalities.

"My nation first! No matter if it does wrong!" is not Christianity.
 
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Here is some of it, lol
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Throwing England under the bus and then ask them for help ?

Something is wrong with that.

Then reading Starmer, flattering words about the "special relationship" with the USA and doing what Trump is telling him.

Pathetic, give me Spain that showed backbone. Friendship is over.
 

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Throwing England under the bus and then ask them for help ?

Something is wrong with that.

Then reading Starmer, flattering words about the "special relationship" with the USA and doing what Trump is telling him.

Pathetic, give me Spain that showed backbone. Friendship is over.
It seems Trump suddenly realized that he needs allies. His threats towards Europe, constant tariffs chaos, "we do not need them" rhetoric caused the situation in which Europe is no longer willing to cooperate with everything the USA comes up with.

The wave of refugees will go to Europe, not to USA. Europe will need to deal with the problems caused by the USA in the Middle East. Right now, the prices of crude oil rose 100% in Europe.
 
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It seems Trump suddenly realized that he needs allies. His threats towards Europe, constant tariffs chaos, "we do not need them" rhetoric caused the situation in which Europe is no longer willing to cooperate with everything the USA comes up with.

The wave of refugees will go to Europe, not to USA. Europe will need to deal with the problems caused by the USA in the Middle East. Right now, the prices of crude oil rose 100% in Europe.

We will survive the oil crisis, we have been in that situation before when the Arabs boycotted us for our support of Israel. More worrying is the possible new wave of Iranian refugees, we already have the millions of Syria.
 

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And from Ukraine.

Yes, but these fit automatically in society, same life style, often Christian, no problem. That's different with Muslims, cultures bite each other, not much in common and they hardly assimilate. But what can you do? Put them in camps like Turkey does? The vast majority is fleeing for war. And then we have the millions who come from Africa.
 
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I still haven't seen a coherent and comprehensive rationale for this war coming from this administration. Why now? What changed that made this necessary? What are our objectives?
 
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Your post makes no sense. The US law is not the supreme moral law, this is what we are talking about. I do not know why you suddenly switched to talking about individual freedoms. It seems you have a problem with keeping a thought.
Nope. You are the one with TDS that keeps changing standards to deny the righteousness of what Trump is doing. Trump was chosen by the people of the US to carry out their will to MAGA. Because of TDS you are denying Trump has any moral authority whatsoever. You are so desperate, you even claim a superior moral law. Let’s list your obfuscations, shall we?
  1. Iran dindu nutin.
  2. Trump actions are unhinged and uncalled for.
  3. What Trump did is illegal, violating US Law (the Constitution).
  4. Attacking Iran violates international law.
  5. There is moral law superior to US and international law.
  6. Implied is Trump is violating this superior law, which he’s not.
It would be more honest for you to admit TDS and cannot look at anything the great leader does in a positive light. He rids the Earth of one worst regimes in our life time, next to North Korea, and all you can do is carry water for the Islamic propaganda Jihadi’s - a useful pawn as the communists say.

I have been waiting for the US to take out the Islamic takeover of Iran since it happened 47 years ago. There is hardly anything more morally and legally justified than Trump taking out Iranian leadership. God bless Trump. God bless the good people of Iran. God bless America.
 

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Iran ≠ Al Qaeda = Afghanistan in that period.
Strawman. No one ever said Iran = Al Qeada. Iran is behind almost all the problems in the Middle East and have attacked America through proxies since their Islamic inception.

Every President favored taking out Iran. 7 Presidents talked about taking out Iran since their Islamic take over. Trump did it. Uncommon courage. Exceptional vision. Totally justified.
 

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Nope. You are the one with TDS that keeps changing standards to deny the righteousness of what Trump is doing. Trump was chosen by the people of the US to carry out their will to MAGA. Because of TDS you are denying Trump has any moral authority whatsoever. You are so desperate, you even claim a superior moral law. Let’s list your obfuscations, shall we?
  1. Iran dindu nutin.
  2. Trump actions are unhinged and uncalled for.
  3. What Trump did is illegal, violating US Law (the Constitution).
  4. Attacking Iran violates international law.
  5. There is moral law superior to US and international law.
  6. Implied is Trump is violating this superior law, which he’s not.
It would be more honest for you to admit TDS and cannot look at anything the great leader does in a positive light. He rids the Earth of one worst regimes in our life time, next to North Korea, and all you can do is carry water for the Islamic propaganda Jihadi’s - a useful pawn as the communists say.

I have been waiting for the US to take out the Islamic takeover of Iran since it happened 47 years ago. There is hardly anything more morally and legally justified than Trump taking out Iranian leadership. God bless Trump. God bless the good people of Iran. God bless America.
This post is so incoherent and scrambled that it defies rational response. Your thoughts are all over the place.

Try to focus - is there a higher moral law than the US Law?
 

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I still haven't seen a coherent and comprehensive rationale for this war coming from this administration. Why now? What changed that made this necessary? What are our objectives?
The objective? Burn it all down, replace the old slave system with a new and more efficient slave system, destroy all faith in the major world religions and install the new satanic religion, wage war against the saints, deceive the nations. What am I leaving out?

Politics is nothing more than celebrity for the unattractive. Trump isn't running anything. Scripted reality my brother. Nothing is real, strawberry fields.
 

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So, what other member do you think has conjured that sock account so to Troll and blaspheme Christ?

Orange man, Trump as Messiah,Trump worship. Three key phrases Trolls use to assail Christian Republicans.

Who would you guess is that "new" member who joined February 26th? And now goes so far into their gutter as to blaspheme Christ by conflating Psychotic Trump hatred with orange slurs upon Jesus?

P.S
Have you noticed? If you Google, you'll realize Atheists don't actually have to identify as Atheist in order to reveal themselves online? Wild.
You need help neighbor. Orange Jesus, Anti Jesus, Anti Christ, what's the difference? Trump is yet another Anti Christ figure, one of many. And you have been deceived. I can only hope and pray that your deception does not go far deeper.
Do not place your trust in men. This includes their institutions, governments, media whores, and especially the billionaire pedo reality TV stars.
God warned you, you chose the narrative over obedience to the Truth. Orange Jesus is not coming to save you, quite the opposite.
 
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Try to focus - is there a higher moral law than the US Law?
Projecting. Start a new thread on that topic. This thread is about supporting the US war against Iran.

On this Earth, there is no higher moral authority than sovereign action. You want to pretend this is hard to understand.
 

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Projecting. Start a new thread on that topic. This thread is about supporting the US war against Iran.

On this Earth, there is no higher moral authority than sovereign action. You want to pretend this is hard to understand.
Your claims are illogical. All nations are sovereign. If they are in conflict, your logic about morality breaks and you have no idea which one is wrong or right, apparently. "Mine is always right" would be obviously a childish claim.
 
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Iran and Iran-backed forces have attacked the U.S. and its personnel repeatedly since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, through hostage crises, bombings, assassinations, and proxy wars.

Early Hostilities (1979–1980s)

The first major attack occurred during the Iranian Hostage Crisis (November 4, 1979 – January 20, 1981), when Iranian students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, holding 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. In the 1980s, Iran-backed groups like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad carried out multiple attacks:

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April 1983: Suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut killed 17 Americans.

October 1983: Truck bombing at a Marine barracks in Beirut killed 241 U.S. service members.

1984–1985: Kidnappings and hijackings, including the murder of CIA station chief William Buckley and attacks on U.S. officials in Kuwait and Lebanon.

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Attacks in the 1990s

Iran-backed groups continued targeting Americans abroad:

1995–1996: Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad suicide bombings in Israel killed multiple Americans, including bus bombings in Jerusalem.

June 25, 1996: Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia killed 19 U.S. Airmen and injured nearly 500, carried out by Hezbollah Al-Hijaz with Iranian backing.

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2000s: Iraq and Afghanistan

During the Iraq War (2003–2011), Iranian-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops using improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and explosively formed penetrators (EFPs),. Other attacks included:

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2003–2007: Bombings and ambushes by Iran-backed groups in Iraq and Gaza killed U.S. personnel and contractors.



2006: Hezbollah fighters killed American citizen Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War.

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2010s–2020s: Drones, Missiles, and Proxy Strikes

January 3, 2020: U.S. drone strike killed IRGC Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani in Iraq, prompting Iranian missile attacks on U.S. bases at Ain al-Asad, injuring over 100 troops.

2019–2025: Iran-backed militias conducted over 180 rocket, missile, and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq, Syria, and Jordan, resulting in multiple casualties.

March 2023: Iranian drone killed a U.S. contractor and wounded five service members in Syria.

January 2024: Kataib Hezbollah drone attack killed three U.S. soldiers in Jordan and wounded over 40 others.

June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked U.S. bases in Syria and Iraq.
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And yet somehow you managed to overlook the fact that were it not for the Wests attempts to steal Iranian oil, there would have been no Shah for the Muslim extremists to revolt against. Iran had a pro Western democratic government before the US and their allies intervened, overthrew that government, and installed their brutal puppet dictator. Would you like a list of all the times the US has done this? Are you even the slightest bit curious just how many times? Any idea how it usually works out? Of course not, you're an NPC. Actions have consequences neighbor. The Muslims should be the least of your concerns. Your worst enemy is your television set. I say kill it while you can still think for yourself, oh wait...
 
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I posted a video of Bibi Satanyahu making claims that Iran was only weeks away from a nuclear weapon. The first time he said this was over 30 years ago. But not a single one of you bloodthirsty nutjobs has taken the time to comment on that post. Your silence speaks volumes. Ignore every fact that contradicts your chosen narrative. That's how insincere, misguided, morally, intellectually and spiritually deficient people behave. And when you point this out, they accuse you of anti semitism, TDS, etc etc.
TDS is a real thing, but it works both ways.
 

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A message from a British Citizen:

The deeply offensive insult to British fighting men and women issued by Donald Trump and echoed by Tony Blair cannot go unanswered.
Trump said that he wanted nothing from people “who show up when wars are already won”.
Leaving aside the fact that the Trump-Netanyahu war against Iran is not remotely “won”, indeed quite the contrary.
Leaving aside WW1 which for us lasted four long bloody and catastrophic years whilst the US turned up in numbers a matter of months before the end.

Let’s deal with WW2.
For us that war against Hitler lasted from 1939 until 1945. For the Americans it lasted from DECEMBER 1941 until 1945. And the Americans only showed up for the liberation of Western Europe in the summer of 1944.
The Americans watched London burning in the blitz while remaining neutral. Clydebank burning. Coventry burning. Britain burning. They watched it all on Newsreel. And remained neutral.
They watched the whole of Europe falling to Nazi Occupation. And remained neutral.
They watched Hitler massing at the Channel Ports to invade us when we stood alone. And remained neutral.
If Hitler had crossed the Channel and invaded us, subjected us to the Holocaust they would have remained, neutral.

The Americans NEVER declared war on Hitler. HE declared war on them.
The Americans NEVER declared war on Fascist Japan. Japan attacked THEM in the last days of 1941. If Japan had not, they would have remained, neutral.
Both my grandfathers volunteered for the Black Watch in 1939. One carried a metal plate in his head from a wound sustained at the horror of Dunkirk. For the rest of his life.
The other fought under Montgomery all the way from El Alamein to Monte Cassino. And suffered nightmares about it for the rest of his life.
Many reading this will have known men who served the WHOLE of the war. Long before it was won.
We can not remain silent in the face of this insult.
Especially when delivered by the grotesque figure of Donald Trump. Who didn’t show up late to the war for which he was drafted - FIVE times.
On account of “bone-spurs”, the War Leader Donald Trump didn’t turn up at all.

A British Citizen.
 
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