Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[1stCenturyLady]

Yes and sadly many now rather heed a promise of a well favored harlot
and not rather BELEIVE ON THE PROMISE OF GOD
the very promise that IF ONE BELIEVED ON JESUS HE WOULD BE SAVED .
OH it has been replaced with the love of a harlot which implies
iT dont matter what religoin one was of , hey we all served the same GOD
lets be one for world peace . Her lie b e of anti christ
her lie be of the devil
And i got to say , That ol devil dont desire LIFE or good for any
But rather the d eath and destruction of all .
SO lets not buy the lie , LETS BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not for a lie .

Are you speaking of a harlot mentioned in the Bible? What are you quoting?

 

[Jay Ross]

@Christian Soldier and @amigo de christo

You are both missing the point of God's prophetic words.

Sadly, the contextual accuracy of our English translations leaves a lot to be desired.

Paul wrote that when the fulness of time of the Gentiles is completed, after that all of Israel will be saved.

CS your understanding of what Paul wrote completely misses what Paul had written in his Letter to the Romans.

adc I have difficulty in understanding your post and the point you are trying to make w.r.t. Israel.

As Christians we need to know about God and His purposes as we move towards the completion of the seventh age.

If we are in error in our posts then we should humble ourselves and repent of our sins.

 

[HealthyShape]

Paul wrote that when the fulness of time of the Gentiles is completed, after that all of Israel will be saved.

Paul did not say "after that" all of Israel will be saved. No idea what translation you are reading, because this one is completely wrong. And no translation listed on biblehub says this.

Paul said "in this way" all Israel will be saved. Contextually, all the Israel are believers from both Gentiles and Jews. So, with the fullness of Gentiles all the (true, spiritual) Israel will be saved.

You can check in Greek. There is no "after that", there.

 

[Triumph1300]

People are now ashamed of the Republican Party.
But it is nothing new.
Here is a post from 1965:

 

[Triumph1300]

Barry Goldwater forgot one thing:

The ones taking control of the Republican Party are "Fake Christians".
They have NOTHING in common with JESUS CHRIST and His real followers.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you

Yes, they are still teh covenant people of God. We do not have to support all they do, but we must support them.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Whether it's about Hell or Israel the fundamentalists here will NEVER budge from their own theology that they created in their own heads. All the Bible scriptures in the world won't change their views because their monolithic egos blind them.

God has decreed that Jews CANNOT yet believe in and follow Jesus AT THIS TIME. Eventually he will permit them to do so and then THEY WILL follow Jesus.

Romans 11:25
25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

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There is always a remnant of believing Jews in all ages. I was in in Israel in 2017 and met thousands of believing jews.

 

[amigo de christo]

Are you speaking of a harlot mentioned in the Bible? What are you quoting?

A harlot do as a harlot do . and we do have us a mother of harlots at work .
I need you to understand that .
It would not ma tter if it were a harlot simply doing the work of a harlot
or the HARLOT and mother of all harlots . WE HEED NOT A WORD ONE outta such lips .
The time now is and has always been
GET THIS PEOPLE back into the bible and stay in it daily , being refreshed by those reminders .
I cannot wave a wand and save anyone . I cannot . BUT I CAN DARN SURE POINT to HE WHO CAN save
and HE WHO CAN keep us safe and i can by HIS GRACE be a co helper to this .
But if this people continues to heed the voice of the prophets IN THESE pulpits ,
FRIEND THEY GOING DOWN ON JESUS DAY . DOWN i say , DOWN TO PERDITION .
that is not me being mean
that is not me being judgmental
that is ME simply doing all i can to help this people . BIBLE TIME .

 

[Triumph1300]

We do not have to support all they do, but we must support them.

That's a weird statement.

Besides....Israel is the CHURCH.

 

[amigo de christo]

That's a weird statement.

Besides....Israel is the CHURCH.

verily verily i do say unto all
ISRAEL are those whose faith BE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and believe me when i say , NOT ALL of israel IS OF ISRAEL . get them IN THE BIBLE NOW . time is running out .

 

[Triumph1300]

Blindly supporting Israel's wars is bizarre.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That's a weird statement.

Besides....Israel is the CHURCH.

No the church is the church and Israel is Israel. Paul made that distinction both in romans, Corinthians and Galatians.

At the end of the tribulation, the entire surviving remnant of Israel will get saved. That is found in Ez. 20, Zech12, and Romans 11.

The church is the one new man composed of Jew and Gentile in one body. The church is never called Israel.

 

[amigo de christo]

There is always a remnant of believing Jews in all ages. I was in in Israel in 2017 and met thousands of believing jews.

This i do beleive .
Now BELEIVE THIS
them jews by birth are NOT TRUE JEWS lest they FAITH BE IN JESUS .
For he is not a jew who is one outwardly .
if you all want to truly help israel
If we had truly loved jews and gentiles
WELL we had never heeded ecumeincal interfaith interreligious dialgoue for peace .
WE HAD RATHER PREACHED JESUS TO THEM .
Get them OUT of anything . ANYTHING that in any way remotely is connected to ecumeincalism .
DO IT NOW . the d elusion grows and all will b e damned who bought the lie .
Not some , ALL WHO B OUGHT THE LIE WILL BE DAMNED . not most
ALL who bought the lie .
NOW ITS TIME to preach JESUS and all biblical doctrine . OR prepare to wail on JESUS day cause the delusoin
IS A STRONG ONE and it comes in under guise its of GOD and is his love and is his plan for world peace.
ITS OF SATAN
iTS OF anti christ
its of all that is unholy and every dark spirit .
And we simply do not have the time to remain docile and holler judge not .

 

[Triumph1300]

At the end of the tribulation, the entire surviving remnant of Israel will get saved. That is found in Ez. 20, Zech12, and Romans 11.

Yup. That refers to the Church,
The Christians, all followers of Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

Blindly supporting Israel's wars is bizarre.

supporting any of these wars is bad news .
But men of nations often support the war of their nation .
and sadly churches connected to govt Always finds a means and a way TO DO the same .
THEY ALL BEEN FLEECED and have loved a lie .
All i can do is POINT TO JESUS and remind all GET IN THAT BIBLE cause your pulpits are fleecing ya
The prophets prophesy falsey
and sadly the many seem to love to have it so .

 

[Triumph1300]

The prophets prophesy falsey
and sadly the many seem to love to have it so .

The mega prosperity false preaching churches are occupied by Republicans.
Shameful.

There is no party anymore for none-left wingers to join.

 

[Triumph1300]

Blessed be this pastor....Here is an exemption:

 

[Wrangler]

Blindly supporting Israel's wars is bizarre.

Like so much you say and think, you got it backwards. Israel is our proxy power in the region, carrying out our will.

 

[amigo de christo]

The mega prosperity false preaching churches are occupied by Republicans.
Shameful.

There is no party anymore for none-left wingers to join.

Oh There is one Name and one bible .
JESUS the CHRIST and the HOLY bible .
And i Highly suggest and not only recommend , but absolutely beg , ALL to get back i nto .
Cause there is no political party or assocation
there is no govt on earth
there is not even hardly a place within christendom that be safe anymore .
BUT IN CHRIST and in that holy bible , I DO Highly plead for all TO RETURN TOO or COME TOO ..
TIMES r unning out
and the delusion only grows

 

[amigo de christo]

Blessed be this pastor....Here is an exemption:

my advice test that one as well .
Any man that dares to use the t itle reverand
Not looking good .
NOW he is RIGHT about the GOSPEL and etc .
But folks can say this and yet still be liberal all the way .
He is right about the OF HIM TO HIM and etc
and that we ought not to be glorifying in the consituion of men .
HE is right . But watch out .
We s hould never have merged religoin and political . IT didnt work out for the RCC
and it didnt work out for the prostestant either .
GOVT was used as a means to destroy their oppostion
AND ITS GONNA BE MASSIVE THIS TIME .
And its gonna be world wide too .
Because the agenda behind it IS WORLD WIDE .
its all a part of the ecumenical move .
Sure t hose who hate trump will hate trump
BUT even they follow the worlds ag enda
However i dont know anything about this pastor .
OTHER THAN , come now , why do a seasoned man of GOD
use the ti tle REVERAND . lets give that title to GOD not man .