Do you guys support Trump's war on Iran right now?

[HealthyShape]

Some Christian Trump supporters view him as divinely ordained and "chosen by God", and some compare him to Jesus.

Trump shared and played a video entitled "God Made Trump" at several of his rallies, explicitly comparing him to a messianic figure.

Sickening.

Many "prosperity preaching mega" churches believed this garbage and fell for it.
They inserted "Trump" in their sermons.
Satan was active and still is.

I tried to not watch/follow this extreme content, so I luckily do not know much about this... but I do noticed some pieces here or there.

It is actually funny that the most politically religious extremists in the USA criticize that Iran has a religious government... quite ironical.

 

[ProDeo]

I trust Trump no matter how you ask the question.

In war, what's the first victim again ?

Iran was weeks away from having a nuclear bomb, before we sent planes from Missouri to annihilate the facility.

See above.

Since then, Iran has continued their policy to build nuclear bombs.

I don't doubt that.

When you are called a part of the "axis of evil" and you see what happened to other members of that group (Iraq) plus the invasion of Afghanistan and thus are surrounded left and right by your enemy, any sane political leader whether good or bad will try to gets his hands on the bomb for survival reasons only and lie about it.

But it is what is, an assumption, no proof.

You don't want another war based on assumptions.

But now that you are there, finish the job, remove that ugly regime.

 

[Wrangler]

No, all three explicitly said no war with Iran.

Again, repeating at anti-truth does not make it true.

You create a Strawman and wonder why it is rejected. Your hatred for Trump is greater than your love of country.

Let me tell you something; Trump is the greatest, most consequential POTUS since the Founding Fathers. When Iran returns to its great Persian roots, rejecting the oppression of Islam and a new era of Middle East peace is ushered in, Trumps visionary leadership will be hailed by historians.

His greatest accomplishment will always be defeating the globalist witch, thereby avoiding nuclear war with Russia. Restoring nationalism across the globe as an abject defeat for the globalists will be looked at as the foundation for peace and prosperity for generations, a golden era, as Trump put it.

Like business, each nation campaigning for their best interests - doing what is in the best interests of the people these governments have a fiduciary responsibility to represent - is the restoration of Biblical justice on Earth.

In case you don’t realize it, the UN is no longer the super-national influencer it once was. They were displaced by NATO, whose demise is seen in their eastern mischievous machinations directly causing the war in Ukraine. That is the endless war of choice.

The problem is that you buy whatever politicians say and dismiss all the apolitical evidence

Projecting.

 

[HealthyShape]

Again, repeating at anti-truth does not make it true.

Repeating that it is not true does not make it untrue. Anybody can find it, we live in the 21st century and promises of politicians are actually recorded.

But some people have a memory of a fruit fly.

 

[Wrangler]

It is actually funny that the most politically religious extremists in the USA criticize that Iran has a religious government... quite ironical.

It not that fanaticism is inherently bad; what is one fanatical about? I am fanatical about what my childhood superhero represented, George Reeves rendition of Superman - fighting for truth, justice and the American way, which includes:

1. capitalism, private property,
2. equality in a pluralistic society,
3. individual freedom,
4. American exceptionalism,
5. Roman jurisprudence and civilization,
6. Judeo-Christian religion
7. English language, culture, law and colonialism, exporting the best humanity has to offer,
8. Inventiveness and entrepreneurial spirit
9. Confidence in our history, righteousness of purpose, and superiority of military and destiny - the shining City on a Hill.
10. The beacon of light to the world - the last, best hope for mankind.

In God, we trust. The God of our Lord, Jesus Christ. God bless America. What kind of poor soul are you to be luke warm, fighting for no great cause but moderation, eternally compromising good for evil?

 

[Wrangler]

The worst leadership the USA ever had.

It must gall you to know more Americans voted for Trump than and candidate in American history.

 

[Wrangler]

But it is what is, an assumption, no proof.

You don't want another war based on assumptions.

Not sure what proof you need that you don’t already have. I was convinced of the necessity of this action against Iran since 1979.

7 US Presidents said Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon; only Trump had the courage to walk the walk.

 

[HealthyShape]

In God, we trust. The God of our Lord, Jesus Christ. God bless America. What kind of poor soul are you to be luke warm, fighting for no great cause but moderation, eternally compromising good for evil?

Don´t babble nonsense, in your politically-religious fervor.

Being rational and centrist in politics, without buying extremes uncritically, has nothing to do with being "luke warm". Do not use religious terms for secular politics.

 

[Wrangler]

Don´t babble nonsense, in your politically-religious fervor.

Being rational and centrist in politics, without buying extremes uncritically, has nothing to do with being "luke warm". Do not use religious terms for secular politics.

No statue was ever erected to honor a Luke warm moderate.

 

[Wrangler]

Don´t babble nonsense, in your politically-religious fervor.

Self-evident gaslighting. My writing is an eloquent, fact-based, Bible-based, logical and passionate apology for all that is good and holy on God’s green Earth.

 

[HealthyShape]

No statue was ever erected to honor a Luke warm moderate.

I did not know that truth is being judged by the number of statues.

Tell me, what political party in the Roman empire was Paul fanatically for? He surely talks about it in his letter, politics was surely his main teachings, right?

Of course not - do not invent your own version of Christianity.

 

[HealthyShape]

Self-evident gaslighting. My writing is an eloquent, fact-based, Bible-based, logical and passionate apology for all that is good and holy on God’s green Earth.

That is why you quote the Bible basically... never. All is just a political mumbo jumbo you got from the American culture, only.

 

[Wrangler]

Tell me, what political party in the Roman empire was Paul fanatically for? He surely talks about it in his letter, politics was surely his main teachings, right?

No. Neither did Paul write about using electricity, the Internet or brushing teeth. Yet Christians use these tools for their benefit.

 

[HealthyShape]

No. Neither did Paul write about using electricity, the Internet or brushing teeth. Yet Christians use these tools for their benefit.

Electricity and internet did not exist in his times. Politics, political fractions and various "strong leaders" did. So, your reasoning is false.

If Christians were supposed to be fanatically political, it would be apparent in the New Testament.

 

[Wrangler]

That is why you quote the Bible basically... never.

False. I often quote Jesus saying to give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and sell your cloak to buy a sword.

 

[Wrangler]

Electricity and internet did not exist in his times. Politics and political fractions did. So, your reasoning is false.

Nope. In Paul’s day, Christ followers were subjects with no rights. Now we are citizens with duty to our country, as well as rights.

Repeatedly Jesus taught us to address nations, which acknowledged political associations in our evangelism.

 

[HealthyShape]

False. I often quote Jesus saying to give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and sell your cloak to buy a sword.

Which means nothing regarding our discussion. The point of our discussion is not about paying taxes to an occupying force, but about being fanatically and uncritically for some secular party or leader or political opinion.

Try to focus. Your thoughts are frequently running to all directions like rabbits.

 

[HealthyShape]

Nope. In Paul’s day, Christ followers were subjects with no rights. Now we are citizens with duty to our country, as well as rights.

Repeatedly Jesus taught us to address nations.

Learn more about the Roman empire.

 

[Wrangler]

Which means nothing regarding our discussion.

Ha! It means everything in our discussions. It means we also have a duty to our government.

 

[HealthyShape]

Ha! It means everything in our discussions. It means we also have a duty to our government.

Paying taxes is not our discussion. And Romans were the occupying force, not their government. Their government were kings, like Herod.

You do not know much about the background of the New Testament, do you? About the Roman empire, Judea and such.