Hey Riven, May I ask?

[Angelina]

Has your thinking or your timetable changed?

I was thinking about that myself this morning @Matthias

 

[Riven]

Has your thinking or your timetable changed?

The timetable has changed. Among other things.

 

[Matthias]

The timetable has changed. Among other things.

That’s not the way.

 

[Riven]

That’s not the way.

It's one way.

 

[Riven]

@Matthias

You sound like the life of the party.

 

[Matthias]

@Matthias

You sound like the life of the party.

I’m pointing you to the one who is (John 14:6).

 

[Strawberry Shortcake]

I appreciate it. As for why I'm not a believer, it's probably because it wasn't part of my upbringing. Or maybe it's because I want to see to believe. Having faith in something is taking a risk. More than that, it also has to stand up to adversity. It can't just fall apart the moment you end up in a bad situation.

If I were to ever become a Christian, I would want my beliefs to be built on a solid foundation. Otherwise I'll end up backsliding by rationalizing myself out of it. I'm very good at doing that.

You remind me of Thomas in the Bible Wanting to see.

 

[Riven]

That’s not the way.

You're right. It wasn't.

 

[Matthias]

You're right. It wasn't.

So now what?

 

[Riven]

So now what?

So now I think I'm going to try something else.

 

[rvmb]

So now I think I'm going to try something else.

eg list any other writing that like the Bible has the Maths Pi ratio embedded into Gen 1:1, & the Maths E ratio embedded into John 1:1, but it's just a coincidence hey
Hmm, it's just accurately the Maths Pi RATIO to 4 places >>3.1416
And Maths E RATIO to 4 places >>>2.7183
Not a big deal, I bet there are lots of other writings that have the same it's just that NO-ONE can find any.

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[Matthias]

So now I think I'm going to try something else.

I’m glad to hear it. What are you going to try?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I am agnostic

Agnostics choose to reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Check out the Institute for Creation Research.... scientists that believe in God.

A lot of those guys believe in "higher powers" such as demons or aliens.

 

[Riven]

Agnostics choose to reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

Some do.

I’m glad to hear it. What are you going to try?

I think I'm going to start by reading the gospel of John.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Some do.

Actually all do.

If an agnostic gets born again they are no longer agnostic and they become a Christian

 

[Riven]

Actually all do.

If an agnostic gets born again they are no longer agnostic and they become a Christian

No. They aren't rejecting him, they are uncertain what to believe. There's a difference between the those two positions.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

They aren't rejecting him, they are uncertain what to believe.

That's choosing to not believe God's Word and as such they are rejecting the Lord

That's why there won't be any agnostics in Heaven.

If they are not sure what to believe then they should read the Bible and find out what to believe and then get born again and quit being indecisive

There's a difference between the those two positions.

Not to the Lord.

One is either a believer or a non believer

 

[rvmb]

No. They aren't rejecting him, they are uncertain what to believe. There's a difference between the those two positions.

Yet they are now a Christian and no longer agnostic = saved

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Yet they are now a Christian and no longer agnostic = saved

Not if they are uncertain what to believe