The Islamic Jihadi’s War Against Christianity

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ProDeo

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God sends those whom he does not allow redemption,to Hell.

I remember you said, hell is an invention of the RCC.

Care to explain?

Are we to obey the Emperor of Rome?

Following Peter :

1Petr 2:13 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme,

1Petr 2:17 Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Honor the emperor, those guys were the Hitler's of that time.
 

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True but most in Christendom deny God hates, brings evil (to those he judges) and is a warrior. In fact, is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, right @Reggie Belafonte?

Agree.

And will add, the dash of ignorance, that “Some People WRONGLY BELIEVE “HATE is the OPPOSITE of LOVE”.

LOVE - meaning what IS Right (Righteous) and DOING THAT RIGHT, “regardless of the CONSEQUENCES”…

All the time people DO what is WRONG, because they know the Consequence, like, stating the TRUTH, will invoke a Negative Consequence unto them!

HATE - means “a STRONG Dislike”.
A person can strongly Dislike (Hate) a person they LOVE…

People have “reduced the impact”… by the clique’ “Love the sinner, hate the sin”…
Removing the “Accountability from the PERSON to his ACTS”.
As well, “Down played”…
Born a sinner is one thing…
A reborn man, is a new creature….IN CHRIST…and Christ IN the man.
The Holy Spirit does NOT dwell IN sin!

Until a “new creature” is Risen UP, in his own new body…he is dwelling IN Christs Spiritual Body… and called “perfected IN Christ”…

His own body, made cleansed, sanctified (set apart), justified (to BE risen anew)…is a body prepared to Serve the Lord in tasks, however best suited for Gods Glory, while remaining mortally alive.

Yes… God Loves All of His Creations…and Yet Hates many of His Creations.

Yes… Humans Love other humans… and some they Love, they also HATE.

(and yes, Love / Hate are stirred by facts and emotions… and utterly ridiculous for legislators to pretend they can lawfully dictate it is illegal to strongly dislike (hate) another!)

God bless you.

Glory to God,
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This is a telling article. Excerpt:
the rise of Islamization represents one of the most serious long-term threats facing the country.
"In my mind, there are two existential threats to the self-governing republic of the United States," he said. "One is the national debt, and two is the rise of Islamization in the United States."
 
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And there is still no answer to my question about martyrdom- the scriptures teach exactly what the apostles and early church did and many today still do. YOUR ROMAN scribes adding passages falsifying teachings- has nothing to do with apostles! So where is your answer? it is utter nonsense.

There is a difference between defending another from harm and martyrdom. If I saw an old lady being beaten I would defend her by any means. I would try not to have to kill him unless there was no other way. Same with a child being raped.. etc..

BUT if I was being threatened with death because I refused to bow to Islam and was to be killed because I am a Christian,
I would consider it an honor to die naming my Lord and Savior. I can hope & pray I would be strengthened enough not to compromise.

Do you see the difference?
 
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And there is still no answer to my question about martyrdom
Not sure what your question is; not sure how you are relating courage and faith to the issue at hand for it takes courage and faith for good men to do bad things. And make no mistake, we are warriors as our God is a warrior and we are made in his image.
They thought it was an honor to be killed for Christ-- a martyr..---- Many were apostles- who heard Jesus teach. No scribes there! Then the EFC's were right behind them in later years.

What happened to our courage and faith?
Muslims want to kill us for our faith and we want to disobey the One who taught us to love our enemies? Blame the scribes?
As Patton said, the goal of a warrior is NOT to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his country.
 
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Not sure what your question is; not sure how you are relating courage and faith to the issue at hand for it takes courage and faith for good men to do bad things. And make no mistake, we are warriors as our God is a warrior and we are made in his image.

As Patton said, the goal of a warrior is NOT to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his country.
Wrangler-
we both already know we don't get along well ever since you claimed that Jesus lied, and more than once.
So, the idea that you agree with Button that Roman scribes altered the scriptures to say that we should love our enemies, bless those who curse us, etc... does not come as much of a surprise.

If you two want to live under the old covenant- so be it. Coming to a Christian board to spout that the NT is made up is not worth responding to any further.
My past experiences with you though is that you will keep right on blabbing. Don't expect me to reply. This is apostasy and nothing else.
 

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So, the idea that you agree with Button that Roman scribes altered the scriptures to say that we should love our enemies, bless those who curse us, etc... does not come as much of a surprise.

This post is out of left field on both counts.

While I didn’t read what @Button said, I recognize the Christian command of loving our enemies to be individual, while giving to Caesar is for collective benefit, including killing enemies of the State.

If you two want to live under the old covenant- so be it.
Strawman. Again, I never said that. Jesus commanded us to sell our cloak to buy a sword and give to Caesar’s what is Caesar’s.

For some reason, you want to pretend these commands have no practical application.
 
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This is a telling article. Excerpt:
the rise of Islamization represents one of the most serious long-term threats facing the country.
"In my mind, there are two existential threats to the self-governing republic of the United States," he said. "One is the national debt, and two is the rise of Islamization in the United States."
And now its time we add the third most deadly of them all .
Ecumencical interfaith and its false solution for world peace .
The first two are correct
THE THIRD ONE IS TOO . And its about high time we figured that out .
 
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Which is a better imitation of Christ?

It depends on which Christ you are referring to. In His first coming, He came as a sacrificial lamb. In His second coming, He comes as a lion with the armies of heaven to strike down the nations and rule them with a rod of iron (Rev 19). The hem of His robe will be dipped in blood. Why? Because he had just come from destroying the Antichrist forces at Bozrah. So, when people say to imitate Christ, they've only seen the lamb, not the lion. In actuality, they are both facets of His character. If we truly want to imitate Christ, then sometimes we need to be the lamb, and sometimes we need to be the lion.
 
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It depends on which Christ you are referring to. In His first coming, He came as a sacrificial lamb. In His second coming, He comes as a lion with the armies of heaven to strike down the nations and rule them with a rod of iron (Rev 19). The hem of His robe will be dipped in blood. Why? Because he had just come from destroying the Antichrist forces at Bozrah. So, when people say to imitate Christ, they've only seen the lamb, not the lion. In actuality, they are both facets of His character. If we truly want to imitate Christ, then sometimes we need to be the lamb, and sometimes we need to be the lion.
Well, let's take a look at what God says...

Matthew 35:31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

I like God's version better.
 

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Well, let's take a look at what God says...

Matthew 35:31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

I like God's version better.
and if we think either sides politics preach Gods version then we have sorely deceived ourselves .
if we think the popes do
or the nar realm do
Then we have sorely decieved ourselves .
In fact if we think and even dare to beleive the ecumenical solution is Gods version . THEN WOE TO US ALL
for it will lead a unified decieved to merge as one for anti christ and its peace .
I have a real good idea . IF we truly wanna learn GODS VERSION . lets open the bible for ourselves
and learn . Cause men been fleecing this people for far too long . And beleive me when i do say
that even SATAN HIMSELF can SAY GOD IS LOVE , but he wont be selling G ODS VERSION of said l ove to the world
and her religoins . Watch out . And what i say to one i say to all , OH YES WATCH OUT AND BEWARE
for we have a harlots love being spread worldwide and many are buying into it as though it be OF GOD . only it of the devil himself .
 
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Then we have sorely decieved ourselves .
In fact if we think and even dare to beleive the ecumenical solution is Gods version .
I will readily accept brotherhood in Christ with every Christian, regardless of denomination. I don't accept the idea that all religions are equal.
 
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I will readily accept brotherhood in Christ with every Christian, regardless of denomination. I don't accept the idea that all religions are equal.
cause for years they fleeced us all with this .
I notice something .
Everyone seems to be blind to the fact
that GUESS who we were supposed to love
MORE THAN even our spouse , or son , daughter or brethren .
A hint . GOD , JESUS .
cause today all i seem to see is a love that just seems to not care so much what one beleives
but just hollers HEY we are all berthren . I mean folks no longer even care the RCC is deadly and has
taught things so blasphemous to GOD it should never once have been named let alone done .
OH its just HEY WE ALL brethren .
THey see a mormon . HEY we all brethren . BUT hold the horse . DO YOU REALIZE what they teach .
OUTRIGHT blasphemy .
But hey we all brethren right . WRONG . we should have put GOD first , CHRIST first .
THEN we had seen clearly TO AcTUALLY help the other out .
You all are being led down the wrong road .
And before i get accused of hating catholics , or jews , or mormons or etc .
NO its not me who hates them . I aint the one allowing sin upon them . and saying HEY DONT
judge cause we all brethren .
ANY LOVE that allows sin upon anyone . GOT a news flash for us all . IT AINT of GOD .
People dont even know HOW to love anymore , cause THEY HAVE NOT THE TRUE AGAPE LOVE IN THEM .
they submitted to the wrong jesus , wrong god .
Now again before i am accused of accusing . How bout we all get back into the bible again .
I aint the one hating muslims , jews , catholics , hindus , mormons and etc . its those who allow them to remain
IN sin , in error , in UNBELIEF that do all the HATING . and if that s eems odd or s trange to you
Remember , DO NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart . DO NOT DO IT .
For ye shall not hate your neighbor in your heart , you SHALL , as IN SHALL rebuke him , correct him and NOT ALLOW SIN upon h im .
BUT JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT , YEAH THAT IS HATE . we got duped bad .
 
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I will readily accept brotherhood in Christ with every Christian, regardless of denomination. I don't accept the idea that all religions are equal.
THEN CORRECT T HEM . dont just hug and get along and seek unity . CORRECT them .
If you love them . Now if you hate them and desire their death and destruction
just follow the judge not correct not camp . You probably think i am nuts , maybe a hater .
IF , if you do , OPEN the bible and YOU see and learn again exactly HOW JESUS did ALL things .
HOW the apostels DID ALL things . dont let men twist little things here and there to fit an agenda .
READ IT ALL . READ IT ALL . see how they approached unbelief . see who they preached and see HOW the warned .
SEE how they corrected sin and error . YOU SEE , HOW THEY DID things .
I mean we all cliam to be christain right . i am sure you cliam it , i cliam to be one too .
What are the first five letters in that ...............a hint , CHRIST ian
HOW about we see WHAT HE said in ever situtation , what HE did in all things .
THEN lets see what the apostels did starting at the day of pentecost . SEE what they said , SEE HOW they
evangelized . SEE THE DIFFERENCE of how they did t hings verses todays VERSION of how they do things .
ITS GONNA BE A SHARP difference .
 
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I will readily accept brotherhood in Christ with every Christian, regardless of denomination. I don't accept the idea that all religions are equal.
And by peace shall HE destroy many . He shall honor a strange god , a god of forces .
And in the latter times of their kingdoms , WHEN the trangressors have come to the FULL
a king shall stand
that king by PEACE shall destroy many .
And you folks keep won dering why i been warning so many years
GET THIS PEOPLE THE HECK OUTTA OF ANYTHING ecumeincal and RIGHT NOW .
BOTH sides of p olitics have long been infected with it .
Chrisetendom has almost completely been taken over by IT .
And SOON a neutral one will s tand . who appears to have the solutions
an d yet its the same solution that they were all being prepared unto .
ONLY IT WILL BECOME THE LAW OF THE LAND , of the nation s , of the world .
AND I JUST BET its all enforced through a digital AI LED SYSTEM .
WE ALL are being heavily and massively DUPED AND DECIEVED .
but when i say we all , THE SHEEP DARN SURE AINT , we keep warning , but many now are decieved for they loved a lie .
THEY LOVED the cares and pleasures in life , THEY loved their sins and desired to sit under men
WHO LIED TO THEM and said ITS ALL OKAY , GOD IS LOVE just join hands and have unity . THEY GOT DUPED
cause they desired the LIE . Now , who wants to help me DO SOME WARNING . cause i darn sure need
some volunteers . GET them OUT of anythin g connected to ecumein calislm , to politics , to etc .
TIME we get back into the BIBLE and start doing all to h elp who we can .
 
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Well, let's take a look at what God says...

Matthew 35:31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

I like God's version better.
wanna know what i seem to notice .
The very one who brought that to us
and said what he said
sure seems to forget , HEY TRUMP AINT JESUS nor is any other .
WE are not to be the ones DOING all the fighting to establish peace .
JESUS will rid the earth of the wicked .
KINDA ODD the nar realm and others seem to think
ITS THE DUTY OF MAN to do so . somet hing aint right .
soon men like wrangler who is on the right
and others with him
AS WELL as the left
AS WELL as ch ristendom
as well as the false religoins .
THEY ALL GONNA HEED THE SAME ONE . they already heed in part THE SAME SOLUTION .
but this one is coming in un der the guise its neutral and it will PUMP the same identical solution
that has already been pumped . THE ONLY DIFFERENCE , IT WILL BE THE LAW and WILL BE ENFORCED .
WE are all being set up . SET UP . set UP , set up . but NOT THE SHEEP . cause the sheep dont BUY the lies of men
NOR HOPE in men
NOR TRUST IN MEN .
THEY FOLLOW CHRIST . now lets open us THE BIBLE .
 
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Well, let's take a look at what God says...

Matthew 35:31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

He's kind to the sheep nations, but what do you suppose He does to the goat (rebellious) nations? Zechariah 14:17 tells us: "If any of the families of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, there will be no rain on them."

I like God's version better.

That's called cherry picking. Are you saying the Book of Revelation is not a part of God's word?

Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Revelation 19:11-15)