Who, can Not Sin and Why?

[Taken]

Who can NOT Sin?

Why?
Because …

They Are a Recipient (from the Lord God) of Forgiveness of their Sin.

They Are a Recipient of Salvation (from the Lord God) of their soul.

They Are a Recipient of Gods Seed (from the Lord God).

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jesussaves150]

It does not mean believers are incapable of committing any act of sin, but rather they cannot live in a consistent, habitual, or deliberate state of sin due to their new spiritual nature.

 

[Taken]

It does not mean believers are incapable of committing any act of sin, but rather they cannot live in a consistent, habitual, or deliberate state of sin due to their new spiritual nature.

What is Sin?

 

[Jesussaves150]

Disobedience to God in all forms.A person knows when they are sinning if they are true believers

 

[Taken]

It does not mean believers are incapable of committing any act of sin,

Not all “believers” have received those things…. So sure they Can still Sin.

The point was not about “believers” rather precisely that THOSE specific believing individuals which “ARE they who Received Specific things…are they who CAN NOT, Sin.”

 

[Jesussaves150]

Ok if you say so.

 

[Taken]

Disobedience to God in all forms.A person knows when they are sinning if they are true believers

Lots of people, believe, then doubt, then believe, then can doubt, deny, stop believing…

They… are NOT “those who have Received”… forgiveness, soul salvation or Quickening.

To “Receive” requires a Heartful “commitment”…

Believing one day, Then Doubting, Wondering, Denying, unsure… are not commitments.

 

[PS95]

Who can NOT Sin?

Why?
Because …

They Are a Recipient (from the Lord God) of Forgiveness of their Sin.

They Are a Recipient of Salvation (from the Lord God) of their soul.

They Are a Recipient of Gods Seed (from the Lord God).

Glory to God,
Taken

I don't know how you can say we can't sin. Do you teach antinomianism?
We all CAN sin. We should try not to,- and we are no longer under the power of sin like we once were-- and we should be putting to death the deeds of the flesh by the Spirit. Ro 6, Gal 5:16
There is a war within us between flesh and spirit. Gal 5:7-
We want to do good but sometimes we fall- Ro 7:8 the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
When we walk in the Spirit we do not sin because God keeps us But if we walk in the flesh- we do sin
The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He remains in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24
No one who remains in Him sins continually; no one who sins continually has seen Him or knows Him. 1 Jo 3:6
We don't practice sin. But we CAN sin.

1. The believer enjoys fellowship with Christ and His redeemed people . 1 Jo 1:3
2. The believer walks in the light, not in the darkness . 1 Jo 1:6-7
3. The believer admits and confesses his sin 1 Jo 1:8
4. The believer obeys God’s Word . 1 Jo 2:3-5
5. The believer loves God rather than the world . 1 Jo 2;15
6. The believer’s life is characterized by “doing what is right” 1 Jo 2:29
7. The believer seeks to maintain a pure life 1 Jo 3:3
8. The believer sees a decreasing pattern of sin in his life 1 Jo 3:5-6, 5:18
9. The believer demonstrates love for other Christians 1 Jo 3:14
10. The believer “walks the walk,” versus just “talking the talk” . 1 Jo 3:18-19
11. The believer maintains a clear conscience. 1 Jo 3:21
12. The believer experiences victory in his Christian walk 1 Jo 5:4

1 Jo 3:4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.

 

[Taken]

Ok if you say so.

Actually Scripture says So…

 

[PS95]

Not all “believers” have received those things…. So sure they Can still Sin.

The point was not about “believers” rather precisely that THOSE specific believing individuals which “ARE they who Received Specific things…are they who CAN NOT, Sin.”

what does this cryptic reply mean?
We who have hope in Christ walk in His spirit. We don't walk according to the world. but WE CAN still sin when we take our eyes off of Him.
You sound a bot like a gnostic here..

 

[Taken]

I don't know how you can say “we” can't sin.

We is a broad term.

I identified specific…
The forgiven, the Saved, the quickened… recipients…. Being they who Can Not Sin.

 

[Jesussaves150]

Hmm does it.

1 John 1:8-10

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

 

[Taken]

what does this cryptic reply mean?
We who have hope in Christ walk in His spirit. We don't walk according to the world. but WE CAN still sin when we take our eyes off of Him.
You sound a bot like a gnostic here..

Having hope, going to church. believing today, doubting or wondering or unsure tomorrow applies to thousands of people….
They have made no commitment.

The committed… are they who are made “recipients” of The Lord Gods Offering…
Of forgiveness, soul salvation, spirit quickening.

How can you be a recipient…which means HIS Spirit dwells IN YOU…His Power…
and you can still be Against Him?

 

[Taken]

Hmm does it.

1 John 1:8-10

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

Humm… did you miss the Forgiveness of Sin?
How do you conclude receiving Forgiveness for sin… is a person claiming they HAVE no sin?

 

[PS95]

We is a broad term.

I identified specific…
The forgiven, the Saved, the quickened… recipients…. Being they who Can Not Sin.

WE = Believers, as if you did not know.
so you say you are a "recipient" of and "quickened" by the Spirit of God/Christ?
and.. you have no war in you and if you do- you always allow the Spirit to win. You never have a moment in the flesh?
bravo- - -amazing- you sound like Behold- I'm just speechless to meet people who have surpassed the apostle Paul who was still honest with himself and others.

 

[Jesussaves150]

Who claims to have never sinned?

Romans 3:23

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

 

[PS95]

Having hope, going to church. believing today, doubting or wondering or unsure tomorrow applies to thousands of people….
They have made no commitment.

The committed… are they who are made “recipients” of The Lord Gods Offering…
Of forgiveness, soul salvation, spirit quickening.

How can you be a recipient…which means HIS Spirit dwells IN YOU…His Power…
and you can still be Against Him?

I never said I was against Him- don't put words in my mouth please.
but I am still in war of flesh vs Spirit! I am nothing like I once was- but NOW I SEE just HOW HIGH PERFECT IS. Just a momentary nasty thought is sinful. I'm glad to hear that your every thought is pure.. You sure about that? Look closely.
We are being made new day by day- to be more like Christ. It's an ongoing walk.

 

[Taken]

@PS95
@Jesussaves150
@Jack
@Dan Clarkston

Are you Aware?
Sin Against the Lord God IS unbelief?

Are you Aware …
Humans are Naturally Born, not Believing?

Are you Aware …
People can believe, stop believing, doubt, deny, believe kind of, be unsure?

Are you Aware…
Of The Lord Gods Offering…?

He Offers forgiveness for having Had Not Believe…if you have Chosen TO Heartfully BELIEVE….
And Confess TO the Lord… your Heartful Belief…
See? conditions.

Do that, and He shall Forgive, having HAD not believed.

Then what?
His Offering, to save your soul, (having been corrupted being IN your Unbelieving Flesh Body)…

What is soul salvation?
Restoring your corrupt soul back To “very good” as it was when God gave you a soul.
Pss 23:3

Then what?
Quickening your natural spirit.
What is that?
Your natural spirit is, your natural TRUTH in your heart, naturally born of a mans seed.
He gives your natural “spirit” a different SEED… Gods Seed, which Births your natural spirit into a spiritual spirit.
Natural spirits Die with the human body.
Spiritual Spirits, can Never Die.
Quickening… is receipt of Gods Seed… that your spirit is, born again.

Believing, going to church, calling yourself a Christian, this denomination, that denomination… are indicators but not the Facts required…

Requirement…for Receipt NOW…
Conversion… Commitment… True Confession to the Lord God…

And His Response…
Forgiveness, Saving, Quickening…HIS Holy Spirit of Truth, Dwells with you and in you THAT NEVER AGAIN (by His Power), can you Not Believe in Him.

1 John 9:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Has their Sin disappeared?
No. They still have forgiven Sin… that God covers and remembers NO More…

But … Men will take it upon themselves to be quick to accuse you of Sin Against God, and even against THEM!

Think about that…
Are you Required to Believe IN MEN? And if you don’t is that A Sin?
: rolleyes: No.

Can such a saved and quickened person… Still, cheat, lie, steal, falsely accuse, hit, beat, kill, other men?

Yes. It is called Trespassing…and yes men can and routinely trespass against other men, and their property.
Can men forgive each other of Trespasses?
Yes, and are taught by the Word of God to do so, for their own benefit., and pleasing to God.

Sin is Against God.
Sin is Transgression (Violation) of Gods Law.
Gods Law is Mosaic Law. If that applies to you, and you Transgress that Law, you have Sinned Against God.
God is the Forgiver of Sin.
(Some Believe the Lord Jesus Fulfilled the Mosaic Law, some do not and remain under the Law).

Trespassing IS negative ACTS of men Against men.
Yes, men can and do forgive Trespasses.

Does the Word of God Teach, men born again of Gods SEED, can Not Sin? Yes.



Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I never said I was against Him- don't put words in my mouth please.

You were speaking broadly… so was that point.

but I am still in war of flesh vs Spirit! I am nothing like I once was- but NOW I SEE just HOW HIGH PERFECT IS. Just a momentary nasty thought is sinful. I'm glad to hear that your every thought is pure.. You sure about that? Look closely.
We are being made new day by day- to be more like Christ. It's an ongoing walk.

Does a nasty thought, devious thought, impure thought…you call a sin…
Stop, Change you from Believing in God?

 

[Jack]

I'm pretty sure John was saved!

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.