Trump and Politics

[Jack]

You don't know

Sure I do. I have a Bible. Even LOTS of them. If you really believe you NEVER sin you're LYING to yourself! Satan loves his OSAS doctrine

Hebrews 12:8
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Do you get chastened by God or are you a "bastard"?

 

[Ziggy]

Jhn 15:22
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

Jhn 15:24
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

Jhn 16:9
Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Rom 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

1Jo 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[Jack]

Jhn 15:22
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

Jhn 15:24
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

Jhn 16:9
Of sin, because they believe not on me;

You're actually quoting John who admitted he was a sinner while writing the Bible?

Rom 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

1Jo 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Now you're quoting Paul who admitted he was a sinner while writing the Bible? lol

 

[Triumph1300]

Paula White, Trump's Spiritual Advisor;

 

[Jack]

God just keeps blessing Israel while the Israel wannabees drool and toot their own horns!

 

[Ziggy]

You're actually quoting John who admitted he was a sinner?

Now you're quoting Paul who admitted he was a sinner? lol

Everybody "was" a sinner until they believed and were born again.

1Jo 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jo 3:5
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jo 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jo 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jo 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jo 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jo 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Hugs

 

[Jack]

Everybody "was" a sinner until they believed and were born again.

1Jo 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jo 3:5
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jo 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jo 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jo 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jo 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jo 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Hugs

EVASIVE! Paul, John and the writer of Hebrews admitted they were sinners even while writing the Bible. You're LYING to yourself!

 

[n2thelight]

Ezekiel 11
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." '

And He did!

18 And they will go there, and they will take away all its detestable things and all its abominations from there. 19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

And He will!

Had my Father brought them back to that land they would be living in peace right now

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Mat 18:15
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother


Ziggy said:
I am Sorry,

Well, I never took offense personally and I forgive immediately regardless of what anybody says or does to me whether it be real or imagined because of this:

Matthew 6:15
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

I made up my mind long ago to forgive others on the spot if they have wronged me just like Jesus did in Luke 23:34 where while being crucified He asks God to forgive those who are executing Him

Mat 18:21
Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mat 18:22
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Col 3:13
Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

Yeah, that's all fine swell and lovely, and I forgave you when I first read what was said - but did you ask the Lord to forgive you of the sin of telling someone to "go to hell"?

If a person does not forsake and confess their sins, then they are still on the hook for their sins
(see: Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9)

Sins need to be confessed to the Lord first and foremost, and people secondly if they are still around to confess to. If they are not, then one can still be forgiven by confessing to the Lord and forsaking whatever sin that was done.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

It's a good thing all these "CANNOT sin" ers can't sin!

While those that believe they can never cease from sin let their freak flag fly and they sin all over the place!

Probably while getting drunk and watching porn while gambling and cheating on their taxes

Why is it that when 'CANNOT sinners' get caught sinning they immediately try to change the subject?

Why is it that the "we can't stop sinning" crowd gets so upset when people tell them they need to stop sinning?

Seems like the "we can't stop sinning" crowd should be more open and honest about what they do behind closed doors.

I mean you people go around telling everyone "I'm a sinner" with great glee and pride.

You people should do what the funny people do and go ahead and "come out" as a sinner! You know you want to!

Yeah, you sound just like Taken, O SINLESS one.

So you admit then that you are a dirty filthy sinner then, right?

 

[Ziggy]

Well, I never took offense personally and I forgive immediately regardless of what anybody says or does to me whether it be real or imagined because of this:

Matthew 6:15
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

I made up my mind long ago to forgive others on the spot if they have wronged me just like Jesus did in Luke 23:34 where while being crucified He asks God to forgive those who are executing Him




Yeah, that's all fine swell and lovely, and I forgave you when I first read what was said - but did you ask the Lord to forgive you of the sin of telling someone to "go to hell"?

If a person does not forsake and confess their sins, then they are still on the hook for their sins
(see: Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:9)

Sins need to be confessed to the Lord first and foremost, and people secondly if they are still around to confess to. If they are not, then one can still be forgiven by confessing to the Lord and forsaking whatever sin that was done.

Our Father which art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

 

[Jack]

Had my Father brought them back to that land they would be living in peace right now

Trying to STEAL Israel's identity is a BIG sin!

 

[Jack]

So you admit then that you are a dirty filthy sinner then, right?

Yeah, unlike this guy.

Luke 18:10-14
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men--

I'm a sinner as were Paul and John. They admitted / confessed even while they were writing the Bible!

John including himself several times:

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

Unconfessed sin / unforgiven sin

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Our Father which art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

That does nothing to get one's self forgiven of their sins as no confession of the sin one committed is being prayed. The Lord's prayer is a general prayer of consecration, not something one prays when they have committed a sin and have been convicted by the Holy Spirit that they have done a particular sin and desire to be forgiven for it.

And, when dealing with demonic activity the devil will just laugh if reciting the Lord's Prayer because this is not telling the devil in the Mighty Name of Jesus to leave, and leave now!

(see Mark 16:17 where Jesus tells us, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall THEY shall cast out devils" - this be like, "devil, in the Name of Jesus Christ I command you to git, now!")

When asking for forgiveness, here's what you should go by

Here's what you should go by

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Then we should go directly to the Father praying in Jesus Name and ask to be forgiven for the specific sin that the Holy Spirit has brought to our attention that we need to be cleansed of:

Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

That way we are telling the Lord what sin we have committed as we ask Him to forgive us and cleanse us of all unrighteousness.

 

[Taken]

You don't know

Correct.
He does not know.
And then highlights quoting Luke 18:11 like it is a good thing!

 

[Taken]

That does nothing to get one's self forgiven of their sins as no confession of the sin one committed is being prayed.

Ziggy wasn’t quoting the Lord’s Prayer asking for forgiveness of sin.

 

[Jack]

Correct.
He does not know.
And then highlights quoting Luke 18:11 like it is a good thing!

You guys don't even know. lol
How about Taken hating gays and defending abortion? Are those sins?

 

[Taken]

While those that believe they can never cease from sin let their freak flag fly and they sin all over the place!

Why is it that the "we can't stop sinning" crowd gets so upset when people tell them they need to stop sinning?

I mean you people go around telling everyone "I'm a sinner" with great glee and pride.

Yeah, unlike this guy.

 

[Taken]

You guys don't even know. lol
How about Taken hating gays and defending abortion? Are those sins?

Too bad your ignorance, lies and pride of being an active sinner are shamefully the mainstay of your posts…

GAG

 

[Jack]

Too bad your ignorance, lies and pride of being an active sinner are shamefully the mainstay of your posts…

GAG

Too bad Satan is keeping you from confessing your sins.

I John 1
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins