Good News. Global Warming Will Not End Life As We Know It

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amigo de christo

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“While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, Cold and heat, Winter and summer, And day and night Shall not cease.”
Genesis 8:22
Well it aint about to remain much longer . JESUS has been sold out and that by much of christendom
for a lie they call inclusive .
SO my advice to all is
TIME to SERVE THE LORD and to flee anything connected in any way to anyone or anything ecumeincal interfaith inclusivity .
Cause that house IS COMING DOWN on JESUS day and so too will all who joined hands within it .
 
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Actually, more extreme weather is what warming brings.
LOL. You're again side stepping the moral point refusing to acknowledge that less extreme weather is good.

The chicken little, the-sky-is-falling mindset is being rejected by more and more people.

No graph you can produce by "experts" will overcome people's first hand experience. I've done far less snow shoveling in the last 5 years than the 30 years before that. Thank God for Global Warming! That's the other part of alarmists denial; denying the GOOD that comes from global warming. It's fundamental to a balanced analysis, which is why misanthropes reject it.
 
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Many people are unaware of this. There is no corresponding list of proponents.
Global Warming Petition Project
31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs

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The other thing is how deviously deceptive the proponents are. There is literally a website called skeptical that reverses skeptics. The site alarmists are "skeptical" of those who are skeptical of the science.

A skeptic is one who questions a positive proposition, not one who questions the denial of it. To those illiterate in logic, they try to bait and switch who has the burden of proof and the power of the null hypothesis.
Ha. The new product is improved.
H0. The new product is NOT improved.

("New and improved" is the most common terms in marketing - despite the evidence in many cases)

Ha. There is evidence that global warming is happening in a way that endanger all life on the planet.
H0. There is evidence that global warming is NOT happening in a way that endanger all life on the planet.

In the absence of compelling evidence, we are logic bound to reject Ha and accept the null hypothesis, H0.
 
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Actually, more extreme weather is what warming brings. You're still ignoring the moral point that the warming going on now, is causing more extreme weather and is harming people.

Your assumption that more extreme weather is good is not supported by the evidence.
The chicken little, the-sky-is-falling mindset is being rejected by more and more people.
Scientists have pointed this out repeatedly. As I said, we aren't "all gonna die" as one denier website wrote. There will be a lot of people hurt, but there will actually be some areas that get better, like the arid land just south of the Sahara.
No graph you can produce by "experts" will overcome people's first hand experience.
Data matters. Personal stories, not so much. Not all deniers completely ignore the evidence, but many of them regard facts the way a vampire regards a crucifix.

I've done far less snow shoveling in the last 5 years than the 30 years before that.
Well, that's not the case in the upper Midwest. You see, extremely cold weather means little snow. When I was a kid, the old folks would often say "it's too cold to snow." Long experience taught them that was right.

Most of the U.S. can expect to see more winter precipitation due to climate change, whether that be rain or snow, says Evans.
“A warmer atmosphere will carry more moisture,” he explains. This means that more of that moisture will be released as precipitation. A slightly warmer but still below freezing temperature can also produce more snow than during extreme cold, so some areas might see more snow as temperatures rise.

https://time.com/7222241/how-are-our-winters-impacted-by-climate-change/
 

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See above. Lots of evidence for warming. It's just a fact. But your assumption that it means it threatens all life on the planet is false.
God controls all His creation. All weather is under His authority. If it is warming, God has commanded it to be so. Nothing is impossible for God. God has a right to do with His creation as He pleases.
 
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Actually, more extreme weather is what warming brings. You're still ignoring the moral point that the warming going on now, is causing more extreme weather and is harming people.


Your assumption that more extreme weather is good is not supported by the evidence.
You're so weird in flipping what I'm saying while ignoring the moral point; Less extreme weather is good for humanity. Admit it and then we can proceed to discuss it.

This is how you know global warming is not science but a religion; no rejection criteria. If the weather warms or cools. If it becomes more or less extreme, MAN IS AT FAULT. In your world view, cooling doesn't contribute to more extreme weather - but that contradicts what alarmists said in the 1970's. Man enjoying a high standard of living = New age original sin. Less extreme weather is good for humanity. Admit it and then we can proceed to discuss the benefits of global warming in great detail. :Djoy:
 
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You're so weird in flipping what I'm saying
Your claims, not mine. Up to you to defend them.
Less extreme weather is good for humanity.
Well, it's good that you now admit it. But as you have seen, we are seeing more extreme weather. Warming means more energy in the atmosphere, and thereby more extreme weather.

This is how you know global warming is not science but a religion; no rejection criteria.
Well, let's look at your assumptions. What evidence would refute climate warming?
1. Long-term global mean temperatures dropping.

But as you know, the trend for average global temperature is sharply rising. Would you like me to show you again? I understand that data is a four-letter word for deniers. But it's still real.

MAN IS AT FAULT.
That's the indication. We know that atmospheric carbon drives atmospheric temperatures, something discovered back in the late 1800s. We know humans have been dumping increasing amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, and we notice that the temperatures rise with those concentrations. Hard not to notice.

In your world view, cooling doesn't contribute to more extreme weather - but that contradicts what alarmists said in the 1970's.
Two errors there. First, the data I showed you indicates that cooling could do that, over a long period of time. And "alarmists" might have been predicting cooling in the 1970s, but the great majority of climate scientists even then, were predicting warming in the long run.

The facts in scientific literature aren't hard to find. But you have to do it. You're a victim only as long as you let others dictate the facts for you. Are you willing to find out for yourself?
 

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See above. Lots of evidence for warming. It's just a fact. But your assumption that it means it threatens all life on the planet is false.

My assumption?
You brought it up. Up to you to defend it or admit it's false.
 

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That's the indication. We know that atmospheric carbon drives atmospheric temperatures, something discovered back in the late 1800s.
LOL You skipped over how the data shows CO2 comes after temperature change, making your religion have cause and effect backwards.

CO2 is not even the most significant green house gas. It's so negligible, it has to be measured in parts per million. Mars and Venus are almost all CO2. How come Mars is not hot? Indication is CO2 doesn't drive planetary temperatures. :-)
 
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God is still in control of the weather and making wise men foolish.
Yes indeed my friend .
And lets not forget this either .
YE can discerns the signs of the heavens but cannot discern the signs of the times .
knowledge has surely increased in this world . And yet many cannot see the forest for all the trees my friend .
So allow me to part unto us this reminder , WATCH and be ready for the Son of man cometh in an hour ye think not .
 
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Yes indeed my friend .
And lets not forget this either .
YE can discerns the signs of the heavens but cannot discern the signs of the times .
knowledge has surely increased in this world . And yet many cannot see the forest for all the trees my friend .
So allow me to part unto us this reminder , WATCH and be ready for the Son of man cometh in an hour ye think not .
@amigo de christo
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God decides what climate will be not man.
Genesis 8:22,
- while the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest and cold and heat and summer and winter and day and night shall not cease
 

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That's the indication. We know that atmospheric carbon drives atmospheric temperatures, something discovered back in the late 1800s.

LOL You skipped over how the data shows CO2 comes after temperature change
That's a testable belief. Let's look at the data...
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Sorry, you're wrong.
CO2 is not even the most significant green house gas.
It's just the one that's increasing. And equally important, it absorbs infrared radiation at wavelengths other greenhouse gases don't.
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Mars and Venus are almost all CO2.
But Venus has a very dense atmosphere, is close to the Sun, and absorbs most of the incoming infrared. So it's very hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere, and so it doesn't absorb much infrared. Also Venus is much closer to Earth's distance, while Mars is much farther away. Turns out, this has been pretty well understood: