Good News. Global Warming Will Not End Life As We Know It

[The Barbarian]

That is where you are wrong as I’ve already stated and proven multiple times.

No, you just keep repeating your mantra against reality you've been indoctrinated with. The data are what they are; you can accept it, or you can deny it. But the reality goes on regardless of your feelings.

You embrace the MAN IS BAD mantra at all costs.

See, as long as you see your position as a religious crusade, you'll keep hitting walls. Instead of seeing this as good vs. bad, you need to see it as a problem to be handled. Once you do that, you can think rationally about the issue. Deniers aren't rarely evil; they are misled or sometimes concerned that doing the right thing might cost them money.

There is no guilt in striving to live in prosperity rather than poverty. The goal of all life is to improve their circumstances.

For a Christian, the goal is to live a life as an imitation of Christ. It's not about who dies with the most money.

I said...

We all saw what you said. Be a Christian first.

 

[The Barbarian]

The American public isn’t as divided on climate change as you might think. The definitive polling on climate, from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, shows that the number of Americans who think global warming is happening outnumber those who don’t by nearly five to one (72% versus 15%). So, while some candidates frame climate as a too-close-to-call question (or even “a hoax”), both voters — and scientists — know that’s not true.

Polling is political.

And yours wasn't? As I said, appealing to authority, either public or scientific, is a huge loser for climate deniers. You were happy with polling until you learned what the public and scientists really think.

The poll that matters is elections.

And now you switch to politics. What matters is the facts. Even if they anger or dismay you, they are still facts.

 

[Wrangler]

No, you just keep repeating your mantra against reality you've been indoctrinated with.

Projecting. You cannot even acknowledge the morality that less extreme weather is better or humanity OR the set of facts I pasted in post 30.

 

[Wrangler]

you need to see it as a problem to be handled.

Wrong. I have no such "need." Need is the language of communism. It is not a problem.

Even if 100% of alarmists claims were true, I would still totally oppose what you propose we do about this "problem." Some generation of humans has to be the last one and I hope they die free.

 

[Wrangler]

We all saw what you said. Be a Christian first.

I oppose the greatest hoax in human history, manmade global warming first. (COVID, a close 2nd).

 

[Wrangler]

And yours wasn't?

Nope. Mine was a list of 31,000 scientists who reject the alarmism of global warming. Not a political poll of the electorate.

 

[The Barbarian]

Nope. Mine was a list of 31,000 scientists who reject the alarmism of global warming. Not a political poll of the electorate.

Polls are political, you said. You're touting a poll. And you should know that 31,000 scientists is a tiny fraction of the world's scientists. If you could show me 31,000 climatologists/meteorologists who signed on to that poll, you'd have something. Can we get a link to your list showing what kinds of scientists they are?

Wrong. I have no such "need." Need is the language of communism. It is not a problem.

I don't think you're a communist. I think you're so emotionally invested in your ideology that you can't even think about facts that don't fit it.

The American public isn’t as divided on climate change as you might think. The definitive polling on climate, from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, shows that the number of Americans who think global warming is happening outnumber those who don’t by nearly five to one (72% versus 15%). So, while some candidates frame climate as a too-close-to-call question (or even “a hoax”), both voters — and scientists — know that’s not true.

Thank God people can vote, not just the people who agree with you.

 

[Armour of God]

Deniers get all hysterical about the science. But the fact is, we're not all going to die. A lot of people are getting hurt by the changes, and more will hurt in the future. But the world won't end. Calm yourself.

I was joking, imitating the hysterical alarmists that were saying all this crazy stuff about the end if the world

 

[The Barbarian]

I was joking, imitating the hysterical alarmists that were saying all this crazy stuff about the end if the world

So instead of looking at what climatologists say, you were consulting a Swedish teenager?
Starting to see why you're so worked up.

 

[Armour of God]

Projecting. You cannot even acknowledge the morality that less extreme weather is better or humanity OR the set of facts I pasted in post 30.

He has an issue with dishonesty.
With me he became a repeated liar.
That's why I stopped engaging him.
To be honest I started to wonder if he was an AI robot, on this forum to put doubts into people's minds about God.

 

[Armour of God]

So instead of looking at what climatologists say, you were consulting a Swedish teenager?
Starting to see why you're so worked up.

You love her

 

[Armour of God]

So instead of looking at what climatologists say, you were consulting a Swedish teenager?
Starting to see why you're so worked up.

Actually, governments, media, united nations, scientists and such did consult her.
That the most hilarious thing about it.
And people who criticised her claims were being ostracised.

 

[Wrangler]

Polls are political, you said. You're touting a poll. And you should know that 31,000 scientists is a tiny fraction of the world's scientists. If you could show me 31,000 climatologists/meteorologists who signed on to that poll, you'd have something.

Agh huh. Yet, alarmism has no equivalent list of scientists who signed a doc that the science shows we got 10 years left.

 

[Wrangler]

He has an issue with dishonesty.
With me he became a repeated liar.
That's why I stopped engaging him.
To be honest I started to wonder if he was an AI robot, on this forum to put doubts into people's minds about God.

With a name like "Barbarian," you know he's not a born again Christian.

 

[Wrangler]

Actually, governments, media, united nations, scientists and such did consult her.
That the most hilarious thing about it.
And people who criticised her claims were being ostracised.

Isn't it funny that he then turns it around and blames US for going to her AS IF that remotely resembles reality? The gas lighting is over the top.

 

[The Barbarian]

Agh huh. Yet, alarmism has no equivalent list of scientists who signed a doc that the science shows we got 10 years left.

That was your claim. Climate scientists made no such claims. Denier alarmists seem to have invented that idea and want climate scientists to take ownership. Not a good tactic, if they want to be taken seriously.

 

[The Barbarian]

Actually, governments, media, united nations, scientists and such did consult her.

Well, that seems like a testable belief. Show me scientific literature that cites this kid's research. I'm guessing that you just trusted people who took advantage of your trust.

Isn't it funny that he then turns it around and blames US for going to her

You guys brought her up here. Up to you to support her claims. Maybe you were just gaslighting. But I suspect that you actually thought that climate scientists were treating her opinions as data. Hard to say.

 

[Wrangler]

Well, that seems like a testable belief. Show me scientific literature that cites this kid's research.

Show you? Do you admit there is something about global warming you do t know? I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes.

 

[Wrangler]

You guys brought her up here. Up to you to support her claims.

Always putting things backwards. Show us where alarmists refuted her claims.

 

[The Barbarian]

With a name like "Barbarian," you know he's not a born again Christian.

Funny you should say that. Many years ago, I was on a message board, and a rather aggressive atheist told me that I just didn't understand how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "Guess you should call me the barbarian, then. He didn't think it was funny, but a lot of other people on the board did, and the name stuck, since I was likely the only Christian on the board at the time.

Perhaps you're unaware that a great number of early Christians were barbarians. Would you like to learn about that?

He has an issue with dishonesty.

I'm not saying you're dishonest. I'm pretty sure that you're so indoctrinated that you can't deal with data that challenges your assumptions.

With me he became a repeated liar.

But you can't show that I said anything I didn't believe to be true? We all know why.

"The first thing a cult does, is tell you that everyone else is lying."
James Randi.

I'm really not trying to make you upset; I really would like you to look at the evidence carefully.