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Ziggy

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And where we are now has a lot to do with what happened then.
I happened to come across this City Council Meeting tonight.
Location: Bangor,Maine
I live approximately 1 hour away.
I haven't left my property in almost 2 years. I can't even get to the road to get my mail anymore.
Thankful for home healthcare services for my 91 year old dad who suffered a stroke almost 3 years ago.
They get my mail at the mailbox for me when they come by 3 times a week to check on dad.

I know time is precious. And actually taking the time to listen to people complain about whatever is on their mind, can be tedious sometimes.
But tonight I'm listening to my neighbors talking about what is happening in that good city Bangor, Maine.
My Neighbors.
Times change when you're not paying attention.
I'm curious if any of this is happening in a town or city near you.

Things need to change folks.
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infectious bronchitis virus

and

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bacteriophage infecting E. coli - source

Aside from your incessant bloviation and pretty images, please show us an isolated/purified sample of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Just one will suffice.

When I took my first virology class in the 1960s...
Ahhhh, now I understand...

Meanwhile, where, O where is your so-called SARS-CoV-2 virus?

You don't have it, cannot produce it, don't know where to go to obtain proof that anyone anywhere has a sample of it.

IOW, you've lost the debate and you are undone.
 
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Rom 13:3
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
 
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Funny thing about this world. They tell you to look here when you should really be looking there.
But they don't want you to look there because then you see what they are actually doing behind the wool they are pulling over your eyes.

I don't think you all know just how deep evil really goes.

It's not like these things just happen to pop up overnight. They are years in the making.
Covid was timed perfectly for the world to look here instead of there.

And where we are now has a lot to do with what happened then.

Thank God Patriots stood their ground and kept their faith.
Otherwise we would all be digging out from nuclear fallout.

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Funny thing indeed my friend . The left does this very thing as it pumps the agenda to its own .
The right does this very thing as it pumps the agenda unto its own .
Always they show errors on the other side and like its only the other side that might be a danger or a threat .
Funny thing however is the fact they both doing the same agenda and saying hey my children
there is nothing to see here , look at the other side .
And if anyone here thinks Trump n vance do not the same , WELL FUNNY THING
THEY DO . There has never been a president
who seems so much to support the bible than any other in recent history .
Pretty much even has his own bible made too .
Speaks and has spoken out against the NWO , the UN
Yet has led this people right into its very agenda of the ecumenical interfaith , aka ONE WORLD RELIGOIN
which will serve the one world agenda . Aint that something . Funny thing indeed dear ziggy .
Time to HOPE thou and TRUST thou ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST and in HIS words in said scriptures .
Cause this entire world is being ANIMAL FARMED and has no idea its BEING animal farmed .
 
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Rom 13:3
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
my my . Now how come i d idnt see this verse being used to support biden and harris .
But i sure see it under the lets support trump .
And beleive me , i was not trying to get us TO support biden or harris .
I was trying to get us to see , OH dear something has indeed went bad wrong
within the house known as and often called christendom .
WHY one can almost hear the voice
of an SS OFFICER telling corrie ten boom , HEY doesnt that bible of yours say you ought to SUPPORT
the govts .
OH yeah . something is going all wrong . This people has no idea
we are all being groomed for such an event that will soon pale in comparision
to how hitler took power out of the hands of the peoples and right into GOVT MIGHTY was it put .
And , NO NO ziggy , i aint even saying TRUMP gonna be the one that does this .
But he sure is co helper to that very one . We better all do a fast return to the scrips
and let us HOPE IN THAT GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS WORDS and IN THAT KINGDOM which cannot be moved
which is heavenly and which by the SPIRIT is within the true beleivers .
Cause the wrong kingdom come the wrong gods will be done , IS BEING DONE and SOON
will become the law enforced by a powerful AI digital system .
 
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God is on the side of truth. He is Truth. I realize that it's difficult for you to accept that you've been hoaxed, the the first step is to set your pride aside and let God guide you.

And insisting that everyone but the people who lied to you are lying, isn't going to help you at all.
Ungodly Illegal Experimentation, Autoimmune diseases, heart disease and many more thru 'vaccinations' began a long time ago.

 

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Ungodly Illegal Experimentation, Autoimmune diseases, heart disease and many more thru 'vaccinations' began a long time ago.
Racism was pretty common back then. It was a much more conservative society. But that's not science, that's the changing values in America.
 

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Funny thing indeed my friend . The left does this very thing as it pumps the agenda to its own .
The right does this very thing as it pumps the agenda unto its own .
Always they show errors on the other side and like its only the other side that might be a danger or a threat .
Funny thing however is the fact they both doing the same agenda and saying hey my children
there is nothing to see here , look at the other side .
And if anyone here thinks Trump n vance do not the same , WELL FUNNY THING
THEY DO . There has never been a president
who seems so much to support the bible than any other in recent history .
Pretty much even has his own bible made too .
Speaks and has spoken out against the NWO , the UN
Yet has led this people right into its very agenda of the ecumenical interfaith , aka ONE WORLD RELIGOIN
which will serve the one world agenda . Aint that something . Funny thing indeed dear ziggy .
Time to HOPE thou and TRUST thou ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST and in HIS words in said scriptures .
Cause this entire world is being ANIMAL FARMED and has no idea its BEING animal farmed .
Here is the solution my Friend,
Stop looking at everything through a political lens.
There is more at stake here than meets the eye.

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Aside from your incessant bloviation and pretty images, please show us an isolated/purified sample of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Just one will suffice.
Just showing you exactly what you said no one has. I get that you're disappointed. But getting verbally abusive won't help you.

There's even a standard protocol for isolating the virus:

Journal of Virological Methods

Volume 326, May 2024, 114912

Culturing of SARS-CoV-2 from patient samples: Protocol for optimal virus recovery and assessment of infectious viral load

I get it; you're upset that you were lied to about this. But you're looking at the reality, now.
Scientist have it, they can produce it from infected patients, I showed you proof that samples of it have been isolated and identified. I even showed you photos of it.

IOW, you've lost the debate and you are undone. I realize that it's a shock for you to see all this proof. But at some point, you need to accept reality.
 

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Covid is over.
Not over:

The landscape of COVID-19 mortality in the United States has undergone significant transformation as we navigate through 2025. While the acute emergency phase of the pandemic has concluded, SARS-CoV-2 continues to contribute to mortality rates across the nation, though at substantially reduced levels compared to the peak years of 2020-2022. Understanding current death patterns provides crucial insights for public health planning and individual risk assessment.

As we examine COVID death statistics for 2025, it becomes evident that the virus has transitioned into an endemic pattern, with mortality rates now more predictable and manageable through improved treatments, widespread immunity, and enhanced healthcare capacity. However, vulnerable populations continue to face elevated risks, particularly older adults, immunocompromised individuals, and those with underlying health conditions. The data reveals important trends in demographic impacts, seasonal variations, and the ongoing evolution of this public health challenge.

The comprehensive data presented reveals the dramatic transformation of COVID-19 mortality patterns in 2025. The shift from being the fourth leading cause of death to the tenth position represents a 70% improvement in ranking, demonstrating substantial progress in managing this public health threat. The weekly death toll of approximately 300-500 deaths represents a remarkable 90% reduction from peak pandemic levels when weekly deaths exceeded 3,000, reflecting the combined impact of vaccination campaigns, improved treatments, and natural immunity development across the population.


It's going to be endemic from now on, like influenza.


Hantavirus FAILED
People don't get it; most forms of hantavirus require a rodent-to-human transmission. The scare on the cruise ship was that the variant was one that allowed human-to-human transmission.

Ebola is the new "We're all going to DIE!!!!!
Nope. It's a very dangerous virus, with a high mortality rate, but we had an outbreak in the U.S. which was quickly contained. We had, at that time, a pandemic response team, and it worked well. Bad news; Trump eliminated that team.
 

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You have shown all of us that, at this time, you are unable to process verifiable facts but can only spew the mainstream unverifiable feed. Your repetition of political patronage (aka pap) is becoming threadbare, as it has at another Christian site that shall remain unnamed.
And the cult keeps telling you; "All those scientists, doctors, hospitals and ordinary Americans are LYING!!!" Sure. And you actually believe them.
 

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Racism was pretty common back then. It was a much more conservative society. But that's not science, that's the changing values in America.
Margaret Sanger comes to mind.

A "Magic Pill"
Tired of waiting for science or industry to turn its attention to the problem, Margaret Sanger set out on a mission. She sought someone to realize her vision of a contraceptive pill as easy to take as an aspirin. She wanted a pill that could provide women with cheap, safe, effective and female-controlled contraception. Her search ended in 1951 when she met Gregory Pincus, a medical expert in human reproduction who was willing to take on the project. Soon after, she found a sponsor for the research: International Harvester heiress Katharine McCormick. Their collaboration would lead to the FDA approval of Enovid, the first oral contraceptive, in 1960. With the advent of the Pill, Sanger accomplished her life-long goal of bringing safe and effective contraception to the masses.

International Harvester heiress Katharine McCormick.
Throughout the 1920s, McCormick worked with Sanger on birth control issues. McCormick smuggled more than 1,000 diaphragms from Europe to New York City to Sanger's Clinical Research Bureau.[10] She scheduled meetings with major European diaphragm manufacturers in cities such as Rome and Paris, and used her language skills and biology background to pose as a French or German scientist and place large orders for the devices. They were shipped to her family chateau, Prangins Castle, outside Geneva, where they were sewn into the linings of fashionable coats and other garments. She smuggled them past U.S. customs agents in New York, having successfully disguised them as the spoils of extravagant European shopping sprees for high-end fashions.

Sometimes science gets in the way and you have to resort to smuggling in contraband to make a better world.
It's all about the foundation, or Foundation on which you stand.

In 1916, Margaret Sanger opened a birth-control clinic in Brooklyn, New York, marking the first major endeavor of her career in social activism, which culminated in 1942 when she founded Planned Parenthood. Contrary to what many might assume from witnessing Planned Parenthood operate today as the nation’s largest abortion business, Sanger wasn’t an abortion activist.

Instead, she founded Planned Parenthood as part of a crusade for contraception, which she believed would be an important element of social progress. Unlike feminists later in the 20th century who demanded birth control as a means of liberating women from the supposed tyranny of the female body, Sanger and her allies had a more nefarious angle. It was the Progressive Era, and elite progressive leaders were advocating a frightening campaign: Anglo-Saxon–oriented eugenic policy as a means of reshaping the U.S. population to look, in their view, more ideally American.

In other words, a Racist.

Democrats cry a good cry about the millionaires and billionaires until they find they need them to support their cause.

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Not over:

The landscape of COVID-19 mortality in the United States has undergone significant transformation as we navigate through 2025. While the acute emergency phase of the pandemic has concluded, SARS-CoV-2 continues to contribute to mortality rates across the nation, though at substantially reduced levels compared to the peak years of 2020-2022. Understanding current death patterns provides crucial insights for public health planning and individual risk assessment.

As we examine COVID death statistics for 2025, it becomes evident that the virus has transitioned into an endemic pattern, with mortality rates now more predictable and manageable through improved treatments, widespread immunity, and enhanced healthcare capacity. However, vulnerable populations continue to face elevated risks, particularly older adults, immunocompromised individuals, and those with underlying health conditions. The data reveals important trends in demographic impacts, seasonal variations, and the ongoing evolution of this public health challenge.

The comprehensive data presented reveals the dramatic transformation of COVID-19 mortality patterns in 2025. The shift from being the fourth leading cause of death to the tenth position represents a 70% improvement in ranking, demonstrating substantial progress in managing this public health threat. The weekly death toll of approximately 300-500 deaths represents a remarkable 90% reduction from peak pandemic levels when weekly deaths exceeded 3,000, reflecting the combined impact of vaccination campaigns, improved treatments, and natural immunity development across the population.


It's going to be endemic from now on, like influenza.



People don't get it; most forms of hantavirus require a rodent-to-human transmission. The scare on the cruise ship was that the variant was one that allowed human-to-human transmission.


Nope. It's a very dangerous virus, with a high mortality rate, but we had an outbreak in the U.S. which was quickly contained. We had, at that time, a pandemic response team, and it worked well. Bad news; Trump eliminated that team.
You have any idea how long the Flu has been in the world?

The Flu will probably always be with us, but they have no power over the fear they caused among the weak in faith.

Hantavirus was found in Korea back in the 80's. A little tweak here and a little tweak there, and just like that we have a new toy to torment people with.

It's not working.
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You have any idea how long the Flu has been in the world?

The Flu will probably always be with us, but they have no power over the fear they caused among the weak in faith.

Hantavirus was found in Korea back in the 80's. A little tweak here and a little tweak there, and just like that we have a new toy to torment people with.

It's not working.
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In other words, you admit that COVID isn’t over, contrary to your previous claim.

“Weak in faith.” You mean those afraid of vaccines too, right?
 

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So you're back to making up stories and claiming I did them? Do you have any idea what that kind of behavior does to you on this forum? No one here, so far as I know said anything like that. Maybe you just got upset and wrote without thinking. Would you like to reconsider your statement?


I mean those who don't trust God enough to tell the truth.
I was responding to Ziggy… :) (I’m on your side.)
 

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You have any idea how long the Flu has been in the world?
The form we know goes back to 1918. The great flu pandemic. It mutated to a form that tended to kill younger victims.

The Flu will probably always be with us
For a long time. Pretty much COVID-19 will be like that.

Hantavirus was found in Korea back in the 80's.
It was first identified there. But it's endemic in rodent populations all over the world. The strain involved on the cruise ship was a form that exists in the Andes Mountains in South America.

It's not working.
It's a bad choice as a biological agent. Doesn't spread very well in humans, even the Andes variant.