GOD's True Israel

[amigo de christo]

I know enough Bible history to understand that whatever happened before the Cross regarding bloodlines is completely IRRELEVANT.

If this future JEWISH KINGDOM everyone is fixated on is Biblical, why do the apostles ( the foundational church fathers)
A) never speak about it?
B) very passionately rail against jewish superiority....there is no difference....there is no difference.....there is no difference
C) only speak of a REMNANT of jews that will be saved, and never a whole nation?

I find it very interesting how no one wants to comment on Romans 11:28:

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Enemies to who? The brethren, or non- believing jews in verse 25.

If the saved jew was/ is an enemy to the non- saved jew, please explain how " ALL ISRAEL" will be saved. In other words , a precedent has been set. God is making the distinction between the two . V.26 And so ( in this manner) all Israel ( the remnant) shall be saved:

Romans 9:6-7 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Romans 11:5,7 KJV
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

[7] What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

These are but a few verses that very obviously show that ALL ISRAEL won't be saved.

So much focus on an Old testament people that rejected Jesus Christ. Why don't we put our focus on the remnant, just like Jesus does? He's coming to save all who put their trust in Him. Not all who utterly reject Him and have in their teachings the most disgusting things to say about Him. If you only understood what the believe about us.

and yet when paul expounded all day to the jews . When going through the old test
WHO DID PAUL POINT TOO . was it to the jew or TO JESUS CHRIST . oh yes . that is how the scrips are t obe used
TO POINT TO JESUS , not to try and establish the FLESH at all .
For the flesh profits a man nothing , whether jew or whether gentile , HE MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
and now a word
HE who believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD . they dont rpeach jesus , they preach the jew .
And that is bad news my friend . As if being jewish is far greater than having TO bELEIVE ON JESUS .
THEY point this people to a deceptoin . And they are now bringing them
as well as many realms under the idea , the solution , the plan , for how to attain WORLD PEACE N SAFETY .
and believe me i have seen its plan for peace . AND IT HAS TOTALLY DENIED JESUS CHRIST
by saying that ALL RELIGOINS serve the same GOD in different ways and are simply coming to him in different ways .
REALLY . THERE BE ONLY ONE , not many , ONE WAY TO GOD and HIS NAME BE JESUS THE CHRIST and YE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM .
This generation is in trouble big time .

 

[amigo de christo]

I know enough Bible history to understand that whatever happened before the Cross regarding bloodlines is completely IRRELEVANT.

If this future JEWISH KINGDOM everyone is fixated on is Biblical, why do the apostles ( the foundational church fathers)
A) never speak about it?
B) very passionately rail against jewish superiority....there is no difference....there is no difference.....there is no difference
C) only speak of a REMNANT of jews that will be saved, and never a whole nation?

I find it very interesting how no one wants to comment on Romans 11:28:

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Enemies to who? The brethren, or non- believing jews in verse 25.

If the saved jew was/ is an enemy to the non- saved jew, please explain how " ALL ISRAEL" will be saved. In other words , a precedent has been set. God is making the distinction between the two . V.26 And so ( in this manner) all Israel ( the remnant) shall be saved:

Romans 9:6-7 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Romans 11:5,7 KJV
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

[7] What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

These are but a few verses that very obviously show that ALL ISRAEL won't be saved.

So much focus on an Old testament people that rejected Jesus Christ. Why don't we put our focus on the remnant, just like Jesus does? He's coming to save all who put their trust in Him. Not all who utterly reject Him and have in their teachings the most disgusting things to say about Him. If you only understood what the believe about us.

Today they all seek to rebuild the earthen temple
believing it to be the cry that even amos gave . I will rebuild the tabernacle of david that is fallen .
ONLY what they dont realize is
WHEN JAMES QUOATED IT , IT was all about THE GOSPEL . they cannot discern
that the old was to be removed and replaced with THE HEAVENLY . they still seek the earthern
and the earthern IS STILL IN Bondage with her children too .

 

[Luther7]

not only do they not focus on it my friend .
Pual warned about focusing on it , on genalogies and strivings about the law . Oh yeah he surely did warn against it .
That the focus was rather to be on JESUS THE CHRIST , the preaching of the dire need to repent and beleive on HIM
and to teach them to observe all things HE did say .
This big and growing bigger by the day movment is to draw us back
to the very place called Jerusalem . And back to the law too i might add and far f rom FAITH IN JESUS the CHRIST .
to trust in the f leshly lineage and the flesh . YET the flesh profits a man nothing , YE must be born again .
And what these people do not know or realize is
they are being gathered right into the web of peace for israel and teh world , ONLY this peace
is coming of many anti christs . AND this religoin is centered RIGHT smack in JERUSALEM again .
And it a deadly one too . IT has denied the dire need to have to Even BELIEVE ON JESUS
and has rather spewed a lie that says ALL religions serve the same GOD
and that we must all unite as one for to attain world peace . NOW who ya think that peace is coming from
and leading too . A hint NOT GOD , for it would never have denied THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
For BELIEVING ON CHRIST is how one be reconciled and now has PEACE WITH GOD.
ANY peace that omits having to beleive on JESUS , OH IT AINT COMING from GOD , it is that which is of anti christ .
WHO by PEACE SURE WILL DESTROY many .

That's right. By peace, like the Noahide laws. For the world, they will look harmless, even good to follow for the sake of peace and unity in this perverse world.

Ah, but the devil is in the details. In the mind of a talmudist, to not worship other gods ( law #1) means worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ. Punishable by decapitation. And how many "Christians" who support the synagogue of Satan do not realize that they are supporting their own demise?

 

[amigo de christo]

That's right. By peace, like the Noahide laws. For the world, they will look harmless, even good to follow for the sake of peace and unity in this perverse world.

Ah, but the devil is in the details. In the mind of a talmudist, to not worship other gods ( law #1) means worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ. Punishable by decapitation. And how many "Christians" who support the synagogue of Satan do not realize that they are supporting their own demise?

be on gaurd luther , the noah hide laws is but another way into
the same big ol ecumeincal interfaith inclusive web of its god .
WHo has spun many strange and diverse webs by whcih to reach any group .
And all will gather under the one same inclusive god . WHO will rage and make war
with the saints . Soon the ecumiencal inclusive interfaith Harlot of interreligious diagloue
Will become the CRUSADES against all who did not conform to her god , to its love , to its unity , to its peace plan .
WHICH will be centered KEY IN JERSUALEM .
And by a powerful AI led digital system its inclusive god shall worshipped and all who do n ot
Unable to buy or sell , persecuted , seen as hater s , seens as dividers , seen as not knowing GOD or love .
OH its a very subitle liar indeed my friend . its father knows how to lie .
But JESUS has the sheep . The RCC is a key player in this as well as now much of the protesetant realm .
PERSECUTIONS have been long planned and determined against the sheep who do not and will not conform
to the image of its inclusive god WHICH THEY BELIEVE IS GOD , but is none other than the dragon .

 

[Marvelloustime]

be on gaurd luther , the noah hide laws is but another way into
the same big ol ecumeincal interfaith inclusive web of its god .
WHo has spun many strange and diverse webs by whcih to reach any group .
And all will gather under the one same inclusive god . WHO will rage and make war
with the saints . Soon the ecumiencal inclusive interfaith Harlot of interreligious diagloue
Will become the CRUSADES against all who did not conform to her god , to its love , to its unity , to its peace plan .
WHICH will be centered KEY IN JERSUALEM .
And by a powerful AI led digital system its inclusive god shall worshipped and all who do n ot
Unable to buy or sell , persecuted , seen as hater s , seens as dividers , seen as not knowing GOD or love .
OH its a very subitle liar indeed my friend . its father knows how to lie .
But JESUS has the sheep . The RCC is a key player in this as well as now much of the protesetant realm .
PERSECUTIONS have been long planned and determined against the sheep who do not and will not conform
to the image of its inclusive god WHICH THEY BELIEVE IS GOD , but is none other than the dragon .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

and yet when paul expounded all day to the jews . When going through the old test
WHO DID PAUL POINT TOO . was it to the jew or TO JESUS CHRIST . oh yes . that is how the scrips are t obe used
TO POINT TO JESUS , not to try and establish the FLESH at all .
For the flesh profits a man nothing , whether jew or whether gentile , HE MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
and now a word
HE who believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD . they dont rpeach jesus , they preach the jew .
And that is bad news my friend . As if being jewish is far greater than having TO bELEIVE ON JESUS .
THEY point this people to a deceptoin . And they are now bringing them
as well as many realms under the idea , the solution , the plan , for how to attain WORLD PEACE N SAFETY .
and believe me i have seen its plan for peace . AND IT HAS TOTALLY DENIED JESUS CHRIST
by saying that ALL RELIGOINS serve the same GOD in different ways and are simply coming to him in different ways .
REALLY . THERE BE ONLY ONE , not many , ONE WAY TO GOD and HIS NAME BE JESUS THE CHRIST and YE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM .
This generation is in trouble big time .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

not only do they not focus on it my friend .
Pual warned about focusing on it , on genalogies and strivings about the law . Oh yeah he surely did warn against it .
That the focus was rather to be on JESUS THE CHRIST , the preaching of the dire need to repent and beleive on HIM
and to teach them to observe all things HE did say .
This big and growing bigger by the day movment is to draw us back
to the very place called Jerusalem . And back to the law too i might add and far f rom FAITH IN JESUS the CHRIST .
to trust in the f leshly lineage and the flesh . YET the flesh profits a man nothing , YE must be born again .
And what these people do not know or realize is
they are being gathered right into the web of peace for israel and teh world , ONLY this peace
is coming of many anti christs . AND this religoin is centered RIGHT smack in JERUSALEM again .
And it a deadly one too . IT has denied the dire need to have to Even BELIEVE ON JESUS
and has rather spewed a lie that says ALL religions serve the same GOD
and that we must all unite as one for to attain world peace . NOW who ya think that peace is coming from
and leading too . A hint NOT GOD , for it would never have denied THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
For BELIEVING ON CHRIST is how one be reconciled and now has PEACE WITH GOD.
ANY peace that omits having to beleive on JESUS , OH IT AINT COMING from GOD , it is that which is of anti christ .
WHO by PEACE SURE WILL DESTROY many .

@amigo de christo

 

[Davy]

Go bother someone else. You are an example of slicing-n-diciing God's written Word to try and make it fit the doctrines of men you follow.

 

[Davy]

Back to the main topic of the thread...

Warning Brethren in Christ...

Men's doctrines will keep you away from understanding the "new wine" or "strong meat" of God's Word. Those behind their deceived preachers who developed those doctrines of men want us instead to stay on the 'milk' of God's Word only. So they tell LIES like the Old Testament Books are all dead history when there's still a lot of prophecy in them yet to come to pass. Hey, the Old Testament prophets even contain whole chapters that only happen AFTER our Lord Jesus Christ's future return!

These Old Testament prophecies also point to 'specific' groups, like Ezekiel 37 for example which points to the two separate houses still as two nations to this day, and only put back together when Jesus' 2nd coming happens.

Now the reason why men's doctrines don't like for you to study the Old Testament prophets is because those Old Testament prophecies determine what comes to pass as written in The New Testament. The Old Testament prophecy of Messiah's 1st coming, which happened as written, and the Old Testament also prophecy of Messiah's future 2nd coming, which has not happened yet today. ANY... teaching that says His 2nd coming has already happened today is a LIE. Men's false doctrine called 'FULL PRETERISM' teaches that very lie.

The ten lost tribes, known as the "house of Israel" in God's written Word, has a direct connection to Christ's Church. They were the actual founders of the western Christian nations in Asia Minor and Europe. This is why Lord Jesus said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". That does NOT mean Jews, for the Jews are the "house of Judah". The Old Testament prophets still contain specific prophecies for each house all the way... up to Christ's future 2nd coming. Those who fail to study that can spew hot air like they know what they are talking about all day long, but those deceived are simply fakes.

 

[Luther7]

be on gaurd luther , the noah hide laws is but another way into
the same big ol ecumeincal interfaith inclusive web of its god .
WHo has spun many strange and diverse webs by whcih to reach any group .
And all will gather under the one same inclusive god . WHO will rage and make war
with the saints . Soon the ecumiencal inclusive interfaith Harlot of interreligious diagloue
Will become the CRUSADES against all who did not conform to her god , to its love , to its unity , to its peace plan .
WHICH will be centered KEY IN JERSUALEM .
And by a powerful AI led digital system its inclusive god shall worshipped and all who do n ot
Unable to buy or sell , persecuted , seen as hater s , seens as dividers , seen as not knowing GOD or love .
OH its a very subitle liar indeed my friend . its father knows how to lie .
But JESUS has the sheep . The RCC is a key player in this as well as now much of the protesetant realm .
PERSECUTIONS have been long planned and determined against the sheep who do not and will not conform
to the image of its inclusive god WHICH THEY BELIEVE IS GOD , but is none other than the dragon .

Agreed!
We are now witnessing a nation wide development of "AI CENTERS", popping up in record time everywhere, looking like fortresses with these concrete walls and fences along with a single " check point", like a military installation.
Who are they planning to keep out I wonder. My guess is that all of these centers will be tied in with Jerusalem.

And then there is legislation in the works to tie in our military industrial complex in with Israel's, in so many words. I think it's called section 224.