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amigo de christo

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The hijacking of the rainbow, of marriage and gender nonsense is not news.

You still will not answer the questions… why not?
i long have told you what ecumeincal intefaith interreligious dialogue says .
The very lie of a very clever god who has come in its own name
and by its peace plan has made void the VERY PEACE PLAN OF GOD .
FOR by GOD it was pre determined that by FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST is how one is reconciled to GOD and now has PEACE
with GOD .
BUT its peace plan , oh yeah take a peek a boo at what they said and now more and more aer saying .
You blew off certain videos i sent a few years back . That which is of anti christ
has come and it has surely come to merge all religoins with christendom and all under the shade
of the inclusive one . SOON the inclusive god of interfaith
will make law and enforce by means of a powerful AI led digital system
its law of what it calls inclusive and claims as the only means by which we can attain peace n sa fety in this world .
You did not even help me with that other person .
If one cannot see and discern the dangers of what these inclusivains of interfaith do bring upon us
by means of the spirit of anti christ ,
THEN THEY WONT be able to discern THE BiG ONE .
IF they beleive their men now do the will of God for world peace
THEY will simply see it and its co workers as the global solution for world peace and believe it to be of GOD .
SO , as for me , I SHUN that eucmeincal intefaith to hades from the darkness it did spring forth from .
I SHALL CLING TO JESUS and preach ONLY HIS GOSPEL and remind all to observe ALL things HE did teach
and later the apostels did . I do highly suggest that all go and do likewise . TO the trenches one and all .
 

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i long have told you what ecumeincal intefaith interreligious dialogue says .

My questions were…
To you…
What does ecumenical MEAN?
What does interfaith MEAN?

A simple straight forward answer would be sufficient. You know… like a dictionary reveals what words mean without a long drawn out commentary.
 
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My questions were…
To you…
What does ecumenical MEAN?
What does interfaith MEAN?

A simple straight forward answer would be sufficient. You know… like a dictionary reveals what words mean without a long drawn out commentary.
its means beware for this is of anti christ but they will twist the defintion to make it seem as though its for the good of humanity .
Hows that .
 

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Now get e very man , woman and c hild far from anything inclusive eucmiencal and its interfaith . Back to BIBLES and let us learn
TRUTH .
 

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Which version?
To be honest the KJV is the best one . And its not nearly as difficult to learn it as men try and make it out to be .
If you own the message , GET rid of it , it is perhaps the worst of them all .
And do not heed these footnotes either .
Men were long at work . So i for sure suggest the KJV . IF you know of any other let me know and i will also look at it .
 
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R u speaking OSAS granted by Jesus after physical death or...OSAS as applied to the point by the ...new age religion group.... after repentance and baptism here on earth?
Former.....yes.
Latter....no.






Later...yes...no one can touch our status of saved,
You've brought up an interesting point.
We are not really saved UNTIL our death.

So, yes, I agree with you.
We will, of course, always be with God after death.

And I hope you do mean that OSAS is a new teaching.
New-age religion group.

Yes.

I sometimes think some need to create their own religion and leave Christianity alone.
Had a thread on this some time ago.

I believe we have eteral security as long as we are abiding in Christ...
believing in Him
and
obeying Him.
 
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To become UNsaved today a Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed believer must become UNsealed.
There are no verses from Paul that teaches that can happen today
Sure there are PeterAndroz
You just don't care for them.
You accept the verses you like and discard those you do not like.
And, this, ladies and gentlemen, is the New Christianity.

Ignore Jesus,
Ignore Paul,
Ignore James,
Ignore Peter,
Matthew,
Luke,
etc.

Pick out a few verse you THINK are guaranteeing your salvation...
and just keep posting them ad nauseum.

Maybe you could just start your own Religion?
What to call it?

The Church of Guaranteed Salvation...
NO MATTER WHAT.
 
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To be honest the KJV is the best one . And its not nearly as difficult to learn it as men try and make it out to be .
If you own the message , GET rid of it , it is perhaps the worst of them all .
And do not heed these footnotes either .
Men were long at work . So i for sure suggest the KJV . IF you know of any other let me know and i will also look at it .
Let's put it like this Amigo:

ALL versions are just fine.

The problem is with WHO reads the version
and whether or not they care to believe what it teaches.
 

amigo de christo

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Let's put it like this Amigo:

ALL versions are just fine.

The problem is with WHO reads the version
and whether or not they care to believe what it teaches.
lets put it like this my friend , i never said if one reads another version they will end up in hell .
But if one wants the best english version it is the KJV .
And you are right about that part where you said the problem is with WHO
Now keep and bear that in mind the next time you hear a man say
The reason we had so many problems in christanity is due to t heir reading of the b ible .
Because while its true we had many differing rifts from men , IT was not that they read the bible ,
but rather their heart . Many desired followings of men . Others desired that money or etc
and thus many contrary twisted doctrines were created to fit many a contrary teaching .
THE PROBLEM never was in telling folks to READ that bible daily
The problem lies in man , not in the words of TRUTH . A man can , by the Grace of GOD , learn that b ible
for his self . OH yes . OH YES . So the problem is not in me reminding all
to get into that bible to learn for themselves , the problem will be WITHIN THE WHO
IS their heart after GOD , after Christ , OR is it after their own lusetful desires . cause the latter KILLS DEAD
and is a sign that The true born again conversion HAS NOT come upon such a one .
Sheep desire and embrace TRUTH , For GOD , CHRIST , HIS SPIRIT now dwells within them
and has given them THE DESIRES TO PLEASE and ability to PLEASE the HOLY GOD by faith in HIS CHRIST .
 
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Welcome back and sharp as ever :Broadly:
lets put it like this my friend , i never said if one reads another version they will end up in hell .
But if one wants the best english version it is the KJV .
And you are right about that part where you said the problem is with WHO
Now keep and bear that in mind the next time you hear a man say
The reason we had so many problems in christanity is due to t heir reading of the b ible .
Because while its true we had many differing rifts from men , IT was not that they read the bible ,
but rather their heart . Many desired followings of men . Others desired that money or etc
and thus many contrary twisted doctrines were created to fit many a contrary teaching .
THE PROBLEM never was in telling folks to READ that bible daily
The problem lies in man , not in the words of TRUTH . A man can , by the Grace of GOD , learn that b ible
for his self . OH yes . OH YES . So the problem is not in me reminding all
to get into that bible to learn for themselves , the problem will be WITHIN THE WHO
IS their heart after GOD , after Christ , OR is it after their own lusetful desires . cause the latter KILLS DEAD
and is a sign that The true born again conversion HAS NOT come upon such a one .
Sheep desire and embrace TRUTH , For GOD , CHRIST , HIS SPIRIT now dwells within them
and has given them THE DESIRES TO PLEASE and ability to PLEASE the HOLY GOD by faith in HIS CHRIST .
 

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its means beware for this is of anti christ but they will twist the defintion to make it seem as though its for the good of humanity .
Hows that .

That’s your opinion about anti-Christ teaching.

Ecumenical…means;
Having discussions between ”Different Religions” to Discover IF there IS ANY common Ground Beliefs.

Interfaith…means;
Having discussions between “Different Denominations of the Same Religion” to Discover The Common Ground and Differences in Traditions and Teaching methods.

Intrafaith…means;
Having discussions between ”Same Religious Denominations” which have Differences, in beliefs, teaching, traditions.

If you do not like participating in discussions of different Religions, different denominations, differences within a particular denomination…
Then Don’t.

Pretending everyone is anti-Christ who doesn’t own and read the Bible is silly.

I disagree with some Same, some Different Denominations and some Different Religions…Preaching, Teaching, Conclusions, Traditions… and exercise my God given Liberty to not participate, in their established protocols.

You imply to MAKE everyone who does not follow you….an anti/Christ.
 

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That’s your opinion about anti-Christ teaching.

Ecumenical…means;
Having discussions between ”Different Religions” to Discover IF there IS ANY common Ground Beliefs.

Interfaith…means;
Having discussions between “Different Denominations of the Same Religion” to Discover The Common Ground and Differences in Traditions and Teaching methods.

Intrafaith…means;
Having discussions between ”Same Religious Denominations” which have Differences, in beliefs, teaching, traditions.

If you do not like participating in discussions of different Religions, different denominations, differences within a particular denomination…
Then Don’t.

Pretending everyone is anti-Christ who doesn’t own and read the Bible is silly.

I disagree with some Same, some Different Denominations and some Different Religions…Preaching, Teaching, Conclusions, Traditions… and exercise my God given Liberty to not participate, in their established protocols.

You imply to MAKE everyone who does not follow you….an anti/Christ.
to see if there is ANY common ground beleifs . BINGO . that be the lie and the snare right there .
For what do we have in common with f alse religoins . Nothing .
Our mission is not to find common ground , BUT to preach JESUS to them .
That is how they snared you and others my friend . REMEMBER its all about the creation of a one world
religoin . THAT is why they go about trying to show us what things we have in common .
AND YET we have nothing in common with them . FOR LIGHT has nothing in common with darkness .
The only thing the darkness do is spout truths and twist it to support a lie .
THEY want us to believe a lie . And
you just gave me the definiton also of this interfaith .
ODD . they said one thing and YET DID SOMETHING ELSE entirely .
THEY got up on stage and HERE was their DISCUSSION with said religoins . WE ALL SERVE THE SAME GOD
in different ways , The GOD of the christain is no better than the god of any other religoin ,
That we are all simply coming to the SAME GOD in different ways . AS I SAID THEY LIED TO US ALL .
THEY said one thing , BUT DO ANOTHER .
THUS like i been sayiing , FLEE ANYTHING ecumeincal intefaith interreligous dialgoue . Have no part in it .
WE cannot be co helpers to THE TRUTH and TO A LIE .
 

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I don't know if anyone has said this or not to many posts but I will put this but Yeshua said this:
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Just who do you think He is talking to? I say so called Christians

When I read that passage, it hits me the same way. Yeshua wasn’t warning the world — He was warning the people who thought they were already safe.

Matthew 7:22–23 is spoken to those who call Him “Lord,” who do things in His name, who look religious on the outside but never actually walked with Him. That’s the part that shakes me. It’s not about unbelievers at all.

It makes me realize how easy it is to wear the label, speak the language, even do the works — and still miss the relationship. So when you say “so‑called Christians,” I get what you mean. It’s the people who claim Him but don’t know Him, and He says He never knew them either.

It’s a sobering reminder for all of us to make sure we’re not just doing things for Him, but actually living with Him.
 
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When I read that passage, it hits me the same way. Yeshua wasn’t warning the world — He was warning the people who thought they were already safe.

Matthew 7:22–23 is spoken to those who call Him “Lord,” who do things in His name, who look religious on the outside but never actually walked with Him. That’s the part that shakes me. It’s not about unbelievers at all.

It makes me realize how easy it is to wear the label, speak the language, even do the works — and still miss the relationship. So when you say “so‑called Christians,” I get what you mean. It’s the people who claim Him but don’t know Him, and He says He never knew them either.

It’s a sobering reminder for all of us to make sure we’re not just doing things for Him, but actually living with Him.
OH it is a sobering reminder for all of us all right .
Thus let us ensure its JESUS we follow and not some other jesus .
A jesus that contradicts the words OF THE JESUS IN SAID SCRIPTURE , is a false jesus indeed .
SO what a lovely reminder you gave us , cause we SURE DO NEED to ensure its JESUS we indeed be a following .
Allow me to introduce us to a holy and lovely book known as and called the BIBLE .
Now let us read this book
and if the jesus we follow is contradicting the words of the one in that book , as well as what the apotels left us in letters
THEN i advise all to NOT FOLLOW that one any longer . Do be enouraged .
 

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When I read that passage, it hits me the same way. Yeshua wasn’t warning the world — He was warning the people who thought they were already safe.

Matthew 7:22–23 is spoken to those who call Him “Lord,” who do things in His name, who look religious on the outside but never actually walked with Him. That’s the part that shakes me. It’s not about unbelievers at all.

It makes me realize how easy it is to wear the label, speak the language, even do the works — and still miss the relationship. So when you say “so‑called Christians,” I get what you mean. It’s the people who claim Him but don’t know Him, and He says He never knew them either.

It’s a sobering reminder for all of us to make sure we’re not just doing things for Him, but actually living with Him.
Matthew
I agree, and I put this post in spiritual and we have a theology battle here not the intention at all. So I wish they would start their own post to battle this there are already so many posts like it. It is the Lords words that separate the sheep from goats. I have seen your posts many times so I know you follow Christ as one of His disciples.
Thanks for trying to get this thread back to where it belonged
 

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OH it is a sobering reminder for all of us all right .
Thus let us ensure its JESUS we follow and not some other jesus .
A jesus that contradicts the words OF THE JESUS IN SAID SCRIPTURE , is a false jesus indeed .
SO what a lovely reminder you gave us , cause we SURE DO NEED to ensure its JESUS we indeed be a following .
Allow me to introduce us to a holy and lovely book known as and called the BIBLE .
Now let us read this book
and if the jesus we follow is contradicting the words of the one in that book , as well as what the apotels left us in letters
THEN i advise all to NOT FOLLOW that one any longer . Do be enouraged .
I can list several things where Yeshua and Paul contradict each other can you?
 

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Any Gift bought and paid for you…
Is a Gift that is already YOURS

Its not possible to Lose Jesus, once He is in you, as He is our Salvation.

To become UNsaved today a Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed believer must become UNsealed.
There are no verses from Paul that teaches that can happen today

Salvation in Christ is eternal

You will see your salvation fulfilled, IF:

“…ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel…” (Colossians 1:23)