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[Grailhunter]

I will not hear this on my watch . I will not even see it typed on my watch .
WE are NOT GOD

People interpret scriptures differently.
Who is to say you or I are right unless we have good evidence.

 

[Grailhunter]

verily verily my dear hunter of the grail , JESUS did not see something in this peter . JESUS did not even recieve testimony
of man . JESUS simply KNEW that peter would be used . WHEN GOD looks unto you , me
or any other , HE dont see us as the great thing , For GOD sees and knows what is in the heart of man .
And now a word .
The heart of man is wicked . And there is none who is righteous in the eyes of THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY .
And the only one who is and has always been Righteous had to take the form of man
TO save man from what no man can save himself from , DEATH .
WE aint the big kahuna and i will hear no such idea we are .
WHEN JESUS spoke to them all , to HIS Own and to even all who did reject him
IT was not cause he saw something special at all in them . Man is a wicked being .
capable of doing good things and evil things . MAN will never be the solution or the answer nor
is there hope in any man . BUT THERE IS HOPE IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST
And unto all who do beleive IN CHRIST and thus would have BELIEVED HIS WORDS
THERE IS HOPE and SALVATION . But in int erfaith there is only death . and its peace be of anti christ .
THERE IS REASON i keep reminding us of this . And the sooner the light bulb clicks and the peoples see the danger
in hoping in men , in presidents , in the RCC of satan and ecumenical intefaith for peace . THE FAR BETTER OFF
they gonna be . And peter sure did put division between the jews and gentiles .
Even t ho ugh he himself did not walk according to the law but according to faith in JESUS .
HE then tried , OUT OF FEAR , yes fear can make folks do the WRONG THING
,then put a division between the jews and the gentiles .
SO allow me some parting words that to many will sound like hate , like antisemitism , like judgmental
AINT A JEW ONE OR GENTILE ONE gonna EVEN SEE the KINGDOM OF GOD
lest that there jew and that there gentile ENTERED IN by FAITH IN THIS VERY KING
WHO sits above now on the RIGHT hand of the FATHER , and who GOD and the LAMB are the very temple .
OH it is and it has been JESUS preaching TIME in the house . But reader and all beware
for if your jesus panders to the flesh of man , to how a man is born , whether jew or whether gentile
YOU FOLLOWING THE WRONG JESUS . THE FLESH profits nothing , YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
SO much for anti christ intefaith interreligious peace. ITS ABRAHAM ACCORDS
has LIED TO THEM ALL . And its peace cometh NOT OF GOD but of man and of many
anti christs who now do their fathers work . AND NOT RATHER THE FATHERS WORK .

All this from interpreting what Yeshua meant by "on this rock I will build my church"
People interpret scriptures differently.
And see we do not agree on Peter dividing the Jews and Gentiles.
There are a lot of reasons why people do not like Peter.....Paul did.
Maybe because he made mistakes.
Maybe they feel the Catholic Church focuses on him.

 

[amigo de christo]

People interpret scriptures differently.
Who is to say you or I are right unless we have good evidence.

That line just wont work on me my friend . I done by grace bought the TRUTH which was freely
given me in and by JESUS CHRIST .
And now a word for all those judge not correct not , name nots .
I HAVE THIS against you , YOU ALLOW , ALLOW , ALLOW that false prophetess to teach and to seduce my people .
TODAY they changed that into , HEY dont name names , DONT JUDGE . man this church age is going down down down
to the bottom of the barrell now .
But worry n ot , have no fear , I have come to correct any and all error i do see and or hear .
AND no its not cause i am any better than any NOR DO I THINK i am . ITS FOR THEIR sakes i do as i do .
JESUS already has me . MY salvation is secure IN HIM .
ITs all those folks following wayward men in wool that i worry for and do try and correct .
BIBLE TIME . And what i say to one i say to all , BIBLE T IME . noses in , reading glasses on , if one needs reading glasses ,
AND GET BUSY learning what these phonie scholars and world wise intellectual men , KN OW NOTHING about .
THE TRUTH . Do be encouraged my hunter of the grail . WHEN evil is allowed to speak and to do
and TRUTH that corrects is silenced under the vicitm card or in the case of churches , the judge not card ,
WELL ITS JUST GONNA GROW and TAKE OVER . well NOT on my watch .

 

[amigo de christo]

All this from interpreting what Yeshua meant by "on this rock I will build my church"
People interpret scriptures differently.
And see we do not agree on Peter dividing the Jews and Gentiles.
There are a lot of reasons why people do not like Peter.....Paul did.
Maybe because he made mistakes.
Maybe they feel the Catholic Church focuses on him.

it aint me that has a problem with peter , or paul , or james , or john , or jude , or ANY words of JESUS in those gospels .
Its those who sat under wayward men that pit apostle against apostel
that say things like , OH those times were different ,
THAT HAVE THE PROBLEM with GOD , CHRIST and EVERY APOSTEL .
Might i suggest bible time yet again for us all .

 

[Grailhunter]

it aint me that has a problem with peter , or paul , or james , or john , or jude , or ANY words of JESUS in those gospels .
Its those who sat under wayward men that pit apostle against apostel
that say things like , OH those times were different ,
THAT HAVE THE PROBLEM with GOD , CHRIST and EVERY APOSTEL .
Might i suggest bible time yet again for us all .

Well those times were different.....One example; Slavery was the norm back then, not now.
A lot of words, but I still do not get what you are getting hot about.
I do not lose debates. Why? I pick the right side.
If I cannot prove something, I do not debate it.

 

[Cyd]

There are few times Yeshua has to "explain things" to the Apostles.

You don't see the focus on Peter? Questions directed to him, sending him to catch the fish get the coin to pay tribute even when they were to watch while Yeshua prayed He directed things to Peter. Peter is used 24 times in Matthew and 31 times in John, thats a lot makes him quite interesting to me.

 

[Grailhunter]

You don't see the focus on Peter? Questions directed to him, sending him to catch the fish get the coin to pay tribute even when they were to watch while Yeshua prayed He directed things to Peter. Peter is used 24 times in Matthew and 31 times in John, thats a lot makes him quite interesting to me.

I definitely did not say that Peter was not a significant person.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well those times were different.....One example; Slavery was the norm back then, not now.
A lot of words, but I still do not get what you are getting hot about.
I do not lose debates. Why? I pick the right side.
If I cannot prove something, I do not debate it.

oh i see you bought it too .
Tried the ol slavery line did ya . I didnt buy into that when i heard men selling that line , i pray you dont either .
THEN PROVE this . PROVE the abraham peace accords IS TRUE .
WHEN IT CLEARLY SAYS the jews , muslims , christains , and now includes all religoins , ARE SERVING THE SAME GOD .
When its darn clear they dont .
AND how do i know this . ANYONE who truly heard MOSES , anyone who truly heard the law
WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ON WHOM IT POINTED THEM TOO . JESUS THE CHIRST OF GOD .
so oopsy the muslims are of anti christ and even unbelieving jews are still in the darkness of satan themselves .
NO jew or gentile can be set free FROM the power of darkness , LEST THEY COME TO CHRIST JESUS .
So i thinks i just proved the abraham peace accords TO be doing the work of anti christ who BY PEACE
shall dest roy many . BUT if you think not , PROVE IT . PROVE TO ME
that those whether jew or g entile WHO FLAT OUT DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST , are still OF GOD .
AGAIN i will prove that one a LIE .
Prove to me this ecumeincal int efaith REALLY DOES DO THE WORK of GOD and that its peace plan BE OF GOD .
And i will show you HOW ITS OF SATAN , OF MANY ANTI CHRISTS and NOT OF GOD AT ALL .

 

[Cyd]

@amigo de christo go
The Abraham accords was called this because each of these religions say they follow the God of Abraham every religion listed says that.

 

[Cyd]

@amigo de christo
Let me ask you a question. If there are people within all those religions that do this:
Matthew 22:37 (KJV) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

And Yeshua said this to Father in his John 17 prayer:
John 17:10 (KJV) And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

Does God save those people?

 

[Grailhunter]

oh i see you bought it too .
Tried the ol slavery line did ya . I didnt buy into that when i heard men selling that line , i pray you dont either .
THEN PROVE this . PROVE the abraham peace accords IS TRUE .
WHEN IT CLEARLY SAYS the jews , muslims , christains , and now includes all religoins , ARE SERVING THE SAME GOD .
When its darn clear they dont .
AND how do i know this . ANYONE who truly heard MOSES , anyone who truly heard the law
WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ON WHOM IT POINTED THEM TOO . JESUS THE CHIRST OF GOD .
so oopsy the muslims are of anti christ and even unbelieving jews are still in the darkness of satan themselves .
NO jew or gentile can be set free FROM the power of darkness , LEST THEY COME TO CHRIST JESUS .
So i thinks i just proved the abraham peace accords TO be doing the work of anti christ who BY PEACE
shall dest roy many . BUT if you think not , PROVE IT . PROVE TO ME
that those whether jew or g entile WHO FLAT OUT DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST , are still OF GOD .
AGAIN i will prove that one a LIE .
Prove to me this ecumeincal int efaith REALLY DOES DO THE WORK of GOD and that its peace plan BE OF GOD .
And i will show you HOW ITS OF SATAN , OF MANY ANTI CHRISTS and NOT OF GOD AT ALL .

It not a line. Neither Yeshua or the Apostles prohibited slavery.
Why would I try to prove that the Abraham Peace Accords is true?
The Old Testament told them to look for a human warlord king that would take down their oppressors in the Terrible Day of the Lord and put them in power and the Mosaic Law and sacrifices would go on forever in the Temple. Yeshua did not fit the bill....so to speak and what they thought would happen did not happen. In stead the Temple was destroyed and Christianity became the primary religion incorporating Pagan and they became out casts.
Satan and Hell will come as a shock to the Jews because they do not believe in either.
As far as the Abraham Peace Accord.....peace is not of the Devil.
And since I do not know of this---->Prove to me this ecumeincal int efaith REALLY DOES DO THE WORK of GOD and that its peace plan BE OF GOD ......I cannot prove it.

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
Let me ask you a question. If there are people within all those religions that do this:
Matthew 22:37 (KJV) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

And Yeshua said this to Father in his John 17 prayer:
John 17:10 (KJV) And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

Does God save those people?

None who follows a false god , a false religoin EVEN LOVES the LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY .
EVEN to the jews who claimed GOD was their father and yet BELIEVED NOT JESUS was the CHRIST
HE said ye are of your father the devil .
No man can LOVE GOD and HATE CHRIST . FOR CHRIST came FORTH OF GOD .
so there it is for all to see . The muslim does not LOVE GOD , he follows another god
The buddists does not love God he follows other gods .
We really need to go back again and read the gospels and the rest of that bible for ourselves .
No man who LOVES GOD would reject JESUS .
And before we buy into the christains , jews and muslims worship the same GOD mumb o jumbo
ALLOW JESUS to remind us all AS HE DID
even the jews , HAD YOU ACTUALLY BELEIV ED MOSES you would have BELIEVED ME .
SO to cliam to know the torah and follow moses and even cliam to be a son of abraham
AINT GOOD ENOUGH . The jews were of the lineage of ISSAC
And not even that mattered , for the flesh profits nothing .
IF you were TRULY OF ABRAHAM .....................................................
ye would do the works of abraham . WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham BELIEVED GOD
YET when JESUS spoke they sure didnt seem to believe HIM .
OH YEAH i am a stickler to the one true gospel and i shall continue to shun that interfaith of anti christ
and false love lie to hades . You all are coming against THE WRONG one pardner .
I AM doing what many no longer do . POINTING ONLY TO JESUS and ONLY TO JESUS .
I dont offer up false hope and give out false paths and lies . I POINT TO JESUS . TO JESUS . TO JESUS .
And yet more and more come after me . EVEN Those who claim to believe on HIM .
HAVE I become the enemy because I TELL the TRUTH , POINTING ONLY TO JESUS . as did EVERY SINGLE APOSTEL .
This church age has NO idea what the LOVE OF GOD EVEN IS anymore , let alone that many now
follow only a sensual worldy version of love , THEY THINK be of GOD .
Not this sheep . I shall POINT ONLY , and i mean ONLY TO JESUS THE CHRIST with the upmost dire
urgent message of YE MUST BELIEVE or prepare to perish . IN HE ALONE IS ETNERAL LIFE AND SALVATION
and all other relgions are false . Yet i am now counted an enemy by many who even dress up as in wool .

 

[amigo de christo]

It not a line. Neither Yeshua or the Apostles prohibited slavery.
Why would I try to prove that the Abraham Peace Accords is true?
The Old Testament told them to look for a human warlord king that would take down their oppressors in the Terrible Day of the Lord and put them in power and the Mosaic Law and sacrifices would go on forever in the Temple. Yeshua did not fit the bill....so to speak and what they thought would happen did not happen. In stead the Temple was destroyed and Christianity became the primary religion incorporating Pagan and they became out casts.
Satan and Hell will come as a shock to the Jews because they do not believe in either.
As far as the Abraham Peace Accord.....peace is not of the Devil.
And since I do not know of this---->Prove to me this ecumeincal int efaith REALLY DOES DO THE WORK of GOD and that its peace plan BE OF GOD ......I cannot prove it.

here we go again . i never said they did .
Its just i dont use slavery as an excuse to make void other teachings in the bible .

 

[amigo de christo]

It not a line. Neither Yeshua or the Apostles prohibited slavery.
Why would I try to prove that the Abraham Peace Accords is true?
The Old Testament told them to look for a human warlord king that would take down their oppressors in the Terrible Day of the Lord and put them in power and the Mosaic Law and sacrifices would go on forever in the Temple. Yeshua did not fit the bill....so to speak and what they thought would happen did not happen. In stead the Temple was destroyed and Christianity became the primary religion incorporating Pagan and they became out casts.
Satan and Hell will come as a shock to the Jews because they do not believe in either.
As far as the Abraham Peace Accord.....peace is not of the Devil.
And since I do not know of this---->Prove to me this ecumeincal int efaith REALLY DOES DO THE WORK of GOD and that its peace plan BE OF GOD ......I cannot prove it.

It sounded really good until you said one thing . you said PEACE is not of the devil .
SO then who does this
AND BY PEACE HE SHALL DESTROY MANY . just like GOD has his version of PEACE
you can bet anti christ does too . and his peace plan WILL DENY the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
JUST LIKE INTERFAITH ABRAHAM PEACE ACCORDS INTERREIGOUS DIALGOUE DID LIVE and ON STAGE for all to see .
THE devil can use any word . EVEN use the word love . remember he has his version for every word
AND THEN THERE IS THE VERSION OF GODS LOVE , PEACE , UNITY
just like there is the devils version of what HE says is love , peace , unity and etc .
You had started out real good and strong . JUST wanted to remind you of this .

 

[Grailhunter]

here we go again . i never said they did .
Its just i dont use slavery as an excuse to make void other teachings in the bible .

Facts do not void teachings, imaginary beliefs do.

 

[Grailhunter]

It sounded really good until you said one thing . you said PEACE is not of the devil .
SO then who does this
AND BY PEACE HE SHALL DESTROY MANY . just like GOD has his version of PEACE
you can bet anti christ does too . and his peace plan WILL DENY the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
JUST LIKE INTERFAITH ABRAHAM PEACE ACCORDS INTERREIGOUS DIALGOUE DID LIVE and ON STAGE for all to see .
THE devil can use any word . EVEN use the word love . remember he has his version for every word
AND THEN THERE IS THE VERSION OF GODS LOVE , PEACE , UNITY
just like there is the devils version of what HE says is love , peace , unity and etc .
You had started out real good and strong . JUST wanted to remind you of this .

Yeshua believes in peace and kicking ass.
Violence is not evil, the reason for violence is evil.
Peace will be in Heaven.

 

[amigo de christo]

Facts do not void teachings, imaginary beliefs do.

lets focus on PEACE shall we . you wrote PEACE is not of the devil . BUT i can assure he
will cliam peace . NOW of course His version of peace is gonna contradict GODS PEACE PLAN .
You see IT IS BY PEACE that ANTI CHRIST shall destroy . SOMEONE sets up a peace plan my friend . The devil does .
GOD , his peace plan IS THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS TO BE SAVED , RECONCILED TO GOD and have PEACE
with GOD .
JESUS clearly stated HE did not come to bring peace on earth .
BUT for anyone who reads that bible , ANOTHER ONE SURE DOES and it aint GOD either
THOUGH it sure will behave as though it be . Just wanted to remind us all
of where this ecumeincal intefaith WORLD PEACE PLAN is leading all too .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeshua believes in peace and kicking ass.
Violence is not evil, the reason for violence is evil.
Peace will be in Heaven.

You keep dodging .
SO let me say it again .
THE PEACE OF GOD is our peace . BUT the devil has his version as well .
And believe me this int eratih ecumeincal interreligious dialgoue , oh its of THE DARK ONE .
IT has clearly LIED to all religoins , to the false religons as well as christendom .
IT LIED to them all . LIED to them all . THE DIRE NEED to beleive on JESUS IT MADE VOID .
TROD HIM RIGHT UNDER FOOT IT DID . and yall want me to join hands with that . HECK NO , I WILL DIE FIRST .

 

[Grailhunter]

lets focus on PEACE shall we . you wrote PEACE is not of the devil . BUT i can assure he
will cliam peace . NOW of course His version of peace is gonna contradict GODS PEACE PLAN .
You see IT IS BY PEACE that ANTI CHRIST shall destroy . SOMEONE sets up a peace plan my friend . The devil does .
GOD , his peace plan IS THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS TO BE SAVED , RECONCILED TO GOD and have PEACE
with GOD .
JESUS clearly stated HE did not come to bring peace on earth .
BUT for anyone who reads that bible , ANOTHER ONE SURE DOES and it aint GOD either
THOUGH it sure will behave as though it be . Just wanted to remind us all
of where this ecumeincal intefaith WORLD PEACE PLAN is leading all too .

Satan can use peace as a distraction.
Not that I think the Abraham Peace Accord is of the Devil.
And God loves peace.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Matthew 5:9