Where does this waiting take place and who is doing the waiting?What happens to you after your body dies?
You have to wait for Christ's return.
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Where does this waiting take place and who is doing the waiting?What happens to you after your body dies?
You have to wait for Christ's return.
Where does this waiting take place and who is doing the waiting?
I believe this is what, or where, Catholics refer to as "purgatory!"Where does this waiting take place and who is doing the waiting?
yEAH...nAHWhere the waiting occurs is not that important
No, but they won't you see?and everyone who are not part of the first resurrection will be waiting.
Yes. It is the acknowledgement of such reality.I believe this is what, or where, Catholics refer to as "purgatory!"
It is where we carry on trying to sort our "stuff" out - a place of grace as it were...So? Professor AI google?
What is purgatory?
COrrect. It is a matter of grace - Grace. GRACE!Key Concepts to Know:
It’s not a second chance: Purgatory is not a "do-over" or a second chance to choose God. Every soul that enters purgatory is guaranteed to go to heaven.
The root of the word:
The word comes from the Latin purgare, which means "to purge" or "to cleanse".
Pain vs. Joy:
While it is often associated with a painful or uncomfortable purification, it is ultimately joyful because these souls know they are saved and are being prepared for eternal union with God.
Because they understand (Or try to) THey assimilate the data and connect the dots in their way.Why Catholics Believe in It:
Yeah, that explains Lucifer. He wasn't "impure" enough to NOT converse with YHVH...The need for absolute purity:
Scripture teaches that nothing imperfect can enter the presence of God in heaven (e.g., Revelation 21:27).
Yes - that is the Born Again stage...Two types of punishment:
Catholics distinguish between the eternal punishment for sin (which separates one from God and is forgiven) and the temporal punishment (the unhealthy attachments and bad habits left behind that still need to be "polished" away).
In a sense, (in o sense) yes.Scriptural roots:
Catholic theology references passages like 1 Corinthians 3:12-15, where a person’s works are tested by "fire," and 2 Maccabees 12:46, which mentions praying and making atonement for the dead.
Reasonable. It is vanity to pray for oneself if the prayer is insincere.The Role of the Living:
Because souls in purgatory are undergoing this cleansing, they cannot pray for themselves. Instead, Catholics believe the living can assist them through prayers, sacrifices, and offering Masses on their behalf.
That's right. I think it's low effort content.You didn't check out that video I linked because it involved AI?
It isn't. It's an opinion.Not at all. What we can observe even in this reality is only a fraction of what this reality is. That is fact
I disagree.Jumping to conclusions. It is better to classify all things as natural, even those things we don't yet understand.
Not all experiences are the same. Think of the child born with cancer. It suffers and dies. What was the point of that experience?For the experience.
Like a mathematician using a calculator?That's right. I think it's low effort content.
That is a low effort reply based upon low effort investigation.It isn't. It's an opinion.
Why do you disagree?I disagree.
What is the point on any experience that is not your own, and if you do not know, why assume there is no point?Not all experiences are the same. Think of the child born with cancer. It suffers and dies. What was the point of that experience?
Sure. We can solve many problems by adding extra dimensions and multiverses. Just ask Marvel. But I prefer trying to keep things grounded in reality, or at least what we can observe.
I think that in order for there to be a soul that exists independent of the body after death, it requires a supernatural explanation.
I think this is the Christian view, with the added hope that God will recreate "you" in a new body and in a changed world.
I don't know how the miracle of consciousness works. It seems to be somehow tied to the brain. I've experienced the effects of alcohol on the consciousness, a good Christian brother I know will testify of the effects of certain psychotropic drugs like LSD and magic mushrooms on consciousness, and I've unfortunately witnessed up close the effects of glioblastoma brain cancer on consciousness before it finally (to my limited ability to observe) snuffed it out.
Thousands of NDE reports witness to experience which generally are heavenly (nice) but occasionally are hellish.
I believe that if there is a soul inside the human body somewhere, and it leaves the body upon death, and it is able to experience existence without a physical body, then what's the point of having a brain or body at all?
Perhaps, if indeed their testimony was presented to the judgmental.I suspect the reason why there is a disproportionate number of heavenly NDEs is because people who have a hellish NDE are less inclined to talk about them. Not only would such an experience be traumatic to talk about, but it would reflect poorly on them and come with certain stigmas.