Fake Zionism
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stevesonthebay
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Wow, I have only listened to a few minutes and I can't listen anymore. He really does have a weird view on zionism. I guess there are a lot of strange ideas about zionism. Any ism is really an ideological view of the world.
I think his arguement sounds similar to the Palestinian and Isreal arguements. When he says that there is no issues with the Jews in being allowed to live and practice in their land. The same arguement is used by Isreal supporters that there is no issues with Palestinians living in the land. They are welcome in Isreal and have the freedom to be representatives and have jobs and businesses.
I think what he is missing and why Jews felt disenfranchised from their land and nation was that even though they could come cback under the Muslims they had to be the minority people in their own land. It was not about rights and freedoms. But sovereignty.
It was not until they were made an independent nation that they had and felt this as a people. Zionism is simply wanting that for the Jews.Supporting that.
The problem is like all (isms) they become political. Like womens rights and feminism. It was a true and noble idea address a wrong. But feminism has beome politicised and an ideology itself.
Zionism is now another (ism) and its seen as just one of the many (isms) like Liberalism, Marxism or Communism. Now theres a lot of baggage and its easy for it to decend into what the video is doing. Distorting the true and nobel idea that the Jews deserve a home into, I don't know what he was trying to say. It just had all the same hallmarks of identity politics, blaming groups, conspiracy, complaining ect.
But I think he makes a misrepresentation of the Jews plight. Trying to make out they had nothing to complain about and should be happy. When we would empathise that any other nation was denied full self determination even under the Muslims or the 10 other regimes that ruled their land.
I think his arguement sounds similar to the Palestinian and Isreal arguements. When he says that there is no issues with the Jews in being allowed to live and practice in their land. The same arguement is used by Isreal supporters that there is no issues with Palestinians living in the land. They are welcome in Isreal and have the freedom to be representatives and have jobs and businesses.
I think what he is missing and why Jews felt disenfranchised from their land and nation was that even though they could come cback under the Muslims they had to be the minority people in their own land. It was not about rights and freedoms. But sovereignty.
It was not until they were made an independent nation that they had and felt this as a people. Zionism is simply wanting that for the Jews.Supporting that.
The problem is like all (isms) they become political. Like womens rights and feminism. It was a true and noble idea address a wrong. But feminism has beome politicised and an ideology itself.
Zionism is now another (ism) and its seen as just one of the many (isms) like Liberalism, Marxism or Communism. Now theres a lot of baggage and its easy for it to decend into what the video is doing. Distorting the true and nobel idea that the Jews deserve a home into, I don't know what he was trying to say. It just had all the same hallmarks of identity politics, blaming groups, conspiracy, complaining ect.
But I think he makes a misrepresentation of the Jews plight. Trying to make out they had nothing to complain about and should be happy. When we would empathise that any other nation was denied full self determination even under the Muslims or the 10 other regimes that ruled their land.
ScottA
Well-Known Member
He is a racist--but he is right about Zionism. It's all fake and not really about God. We've been duped. Which will soon all be public, it's all coming out.
