BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP UPHELD

[PS95]

Dear Ziggy and PS95;
You both have valid points and I agree with both of you. This is not an either/or thing. It is both/and.
That being said, ya'll need to understand that America is going to fall to Islam/Communism and it will be bloody. But it MUST happen because Biblical prophecy mentions EVERY modern "super power" except America. We are the most powerful at this time but end times eschatology shows that we do not have a role in end times events. We are GONE.
All I can tell you is this:
Preach the gospel and leave politics for the lost. And remember this axiom: A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

I keep my eyes on the Lord- absolutely. It appears to be more of Communistic type of one world governance that has been in the works for some time now under the UN. I know we can't prevent whatever is going to be. But please don't tell me you are yet another one saying it's wrong to vote. I would rather not live at all then watch a far left psycho become president again.
This whole mess with Chinese babies began with guess who? Obama- he gave them no visa privileges to visit & that's when it began - 13 years ago. -- Look it up.

Since the start of the 119th United States Congress on January 3, 2025, 102 bills have become law (100 public laws and 2 private laws)

hot button issues- dems want this kept. .. As I've said- Even a law wont change the fact that there are 1.5 million Chinese tourism babies born here- who can vote at age 18.
If any law did pass it would only be aimed at preventing future anchor babies. It can't strip citizenship already given. What a mess.

 

[Wrangler]

They already are "being ruled by Atheists and Satanists."

I'll give you but one example.

The word "God" does not even appear in the US Constitution.

The absence of evidence is not evidence. There are books in the Bible that The word "God" does not even appear.

 

[Wrangler]

This verifies that the U.S. Constitution allows Atheists to rule and make laws for bondservants of Christ!

This allowance is no reason for Christians to make it a requirement for other Christians to be ruled by Atheists and Satanists.

 

[doctrox]

It appears to be more of Communistic type of one world governance that has been in the works for some time now under the UN.

and

There are books in the Bible that The word "God" does not even appear.

Neither does the word "God" appear in the entirety of the Manifesto of the Communist Party.

The absence of evidence is not evidence.

Of course it can be. An omission (a failure to act or a missing fact) can definitely be evidence. In both law and daily life, the absence of something expected can be just as powerful as an active statement.

This allowance is no reason for Christians to make it a requirement for other Christians to be ruled by Atheists and Satanists.

What "Christian" would even involve himself in the making of any such requirement?

 

[Wrangler]

What "Christian" would even involve himself in the making of any such requirement?

You can decide for yourself in reading threads on Christian Nationalism and the Reasons FOR the Crusades. Of course, they don’t come right out and say this, it is implied.

 

[doctrox]

You can decide for yourself in reading threads on Christian Nationalism and the Reasons FOR the Crusades. Of course, they don’t come right out and say this, it is implied.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

 

[JimKnox]

I keep my eyes on the Lord- absolutely. It appears to be more of Communistic type of one world governance that has been in the works for some time now under the UN. I know we can't prevent whatever is going to be. But please don't tell me you are yet another one saying it's wrong to vote. I would rather not live at all then watch a far left psycho become president again.
This whole mess with Chinese babies began with guess who? Obama- he gave them no visa privileges to visit & that's when it began - 13 years ago. -- Look it up.

hot button issues- dems want this kept. .. As I've said- Even a law wont change the fact that there are 1.5 million Chinese tourism babies born here- who can vote at age 18.
If any law did pass it would only be aimed at preventing future anchor babies. It can't strip citizenship already given. What a mess.

My friend, you are being too short sighted.
This mess began when Nixon gave the Chinese Most Favored Nation status and sent our manufacturing over there.

No. I am not saying we should stop voting.
I voted in every election. But I do it out of civic duty and I am not kidding myself that we are going to stop the slide into totalitarianism.

FYI: you are going to begin seeing progressively WORSE psychos than Obammy or PoopyPants Obiden. We are currently under the Judgement of God. Women and children are going to rule and then our enemies will replace them.


"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness ".

 

[doctrox]

My friend, you are being too short sighted.
This mess began when Nixon...

This mess began in the garden.

No. I am not saying we should stop voting.

Voting is very unscriptural.

"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness ".

Not true, as you admittedly voted for mere men to continue cracking the whip over your head.

We are currently under the Judgement of God.

Now that is the takeaway of this thread.

 

[Ziggy]

Those who can vote legally via tourism births are an awful threat. If that wouldn't disrupt our way of life I don't know what would. Idk why you wont hear me.

I hear you.

 

[PS95]

My friend, you are being too short sighted.
This mess began when Nixon gave the Chinese Most Favored Nation status and sent our manufacturing over there.

Nixon had nothing to do with the visa waivers in the Mariana Islands (CNMI), a US territory northeast of Guam in the Pacific Ocean. It has been flooded with so-called “birth tourists” since 2009 when then-president Barack Obama introduced a visa-waiver program for Chinese nationals. I'm not a fan of Nixon and his China love but it's not what caused this absurd issue.

No. I am not saying we should stop voting.
I voted in every election. But I do it out of civic duty and I am not kidding myself that we are going to stop the slide into totalitarianism.

I agree wholeheartedly. I vote understanding the reality, as well. I think it harms us even more when Christians think they are too holy to vote. Not voting only empowers the left. They have gone mad. Idk why they can't see that. We are in worse hands when they are in power. The right can't be trusted blindly, but they are NOT like the left. We have to look at the results of elections-- their fruits. I have a hard time seeing the United Nations running this country's politics, yet that is exactly what has been happening. Far too many are unaware and see the "news" as spontaneous happenings when none of it is. What is in those UN Agendas is what we see happening. - orchestrated- signed by Geo Bush Sr.. It is interesting that he absolutley hated Trump. Trump has dealt some blows to their agenda. That's a fact.
I vote mainly for others who will be here when I'm not. I have kids and g-babies. anything to throw a stall into it all.

FYI: you are going to begin seeing progressively WORSE psychos than Obammy or PoopyPants Obiden. We are currently under the Judgement of God. Women and children are going to rule and then our enemies will replace them.

and They will be under His final judgment.
Not sure what you mean about children, but "non-conservative" women, gays, and anyone whose skin isn't white other than any color conservatives-- are the favored of the puppet masters. Have you read UN agenda 21 and 2030? Do you see all that they planned is precisely everything that is happening? They have an occult founding.

"My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness ".

Amen.

 

[Ziggy]

Enjoy

Those who can vote legally via tourism births are an awful threat. If that wouldn't disrupt our way of life I don't know what would. Idk why you wont hear me.

The video is long, the third story that Robert hits on is about Birth Tourism.
So, it looks like Texas will be making the first move going after the facilities that are allowing them to come here and have their babies in them. No where to have your baby, and holding these facilities criminally accountable is a States Right.
I thin he said Rand Paul ? was bringing legislature to the floor that may even try to amend the Constitution itself.
I don't believe we even need the 14th amendment anymore seeing there are no more "freed slaves" . Haven't been since Abe Lincoln.

So I do hear you, and I totally understand your concern. But just because the Supreme Court says JUMP doesn't mean they can't be challenged by the very Branch we have, the Legislative Branch, which is the First Branch of the Constitution.
This Legislative Branch writes our laws. This is what we want to do, The Executive Branch enforces those Laws. They are the arm of Get it Done. The Executive Branch also has power of itself and it's Cabinet to determine How those laws will be enforced.
The Legislative doesn't say how, they just say do it. Executive Branch says ok, this is how it will be done and does it.
The Judiciary Branch confirms or denies if the laws that the Legislative Branch create, don't override the Constitution as written.
If it does, then either they can make a law that fits within the boundaries of the Constitution, or The Legislative Branch can amend the Constitution itself.
In No Case does the Supreme Court ever have the Final Say. They just Interpret the law. They don't make them.

So Let's see what happens.

I do hear you.

Hugs

 

[PS95]

The video is long, the third story that Robert hits on is about Birth Tourism.
So, it looks like Texas will be making the first move going after the facilities that are allowing them to come here and have their babies in them. No where to have your baby, and holding these facilities criminally accountable is a States Right.
I thin he said Rand Paul ? was bringing legislature to the floor that may even try to amend the Constitution itself.
I don't believe we even need the 14th amendment anymore seeing there are no more "freed slaves" . Haven't been since Abe Lincoln.

So I do hear you, and I totally understand your concern. But just because the Supreme Court says JUMP doesn't mean they can't be challenged by the very Branch we have, the Legislative Branch, which is the First Branch of the Constitution.
This Legislative Branch writes our laws. This is what we want to do, The Executive Branch enforces those Laws. They are the arm of Get it Done. The Executive Branch also has power of itself and it's Cabinet to determine How those laws will be enforced.
The Legislative doesn't say how, they just say do it. Executive Branch says ok, this is how it will be done and does it.
The Judiciary Branch confirms or denies if the laws that the Legislative Branch create, don't override the Constitution as written.
If it does, then either they can make a law that fits within the boundaries of the Constitution, or The Legislative Branch can amend the Constitution itself.
In No Case does the Supreme Court ever have the Final Say. They just Interpret the law. They don't make them.

So Let's see what happens.

I do hear you.

Hugs

I know Ziggy- I read about Ken Paxton- the problem I'm talking about is still there tho- the 1.5 million aint going away. Damage is done.

 

[Ziggy]

The 14th Amendment guarantees citizenship, due process, and equal protection under the law, forming the constitutional foundation for civil rights in the United States.​

Historical Context​

The 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, during the Reconstruction era following the Civil War, as part of Congress’s effort to secure civil and legal rights for formerly enslaved people . It was one of three Reconstruction Amendments designed to abolish slavery and establish equality under the law. The amendment granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” ensuring that formerly enslaved individuals were recognized as full citizens.

It had nothing to do with immigration.
Once a person had been freed from slavery, it didn't automatically entitle them to citizenship, so there was a process:

Meaning of “Naturalized” in the U.S. Constitution​

In the U.S. Constitution, “naturalized” refers to the process by which a person becomes a U.S. citizen through a legal procedure after being born outside the United States. It is the opposite of being “born” a citizen — naturalization is the formal act of conferring U.S. nationality on someone who was not a citizen at birth.

Who was not a citizen at birth.
Because slavery was considered property instead of individual rights, they were not even considered individuals.
Thus they had no legal claim to the land that they were born on. You were born under the jurisdiction of the slave owner. Not the State, Not the Country.
So before they could become a citizen they had to go through a naturalization process , and that process is how they were able to become citizens.
It's always about process. And it was always about those who had been freed from slavery.

You know, White men fought and died against other White men to make freedom possible for all.
This was a Civil War white against white to save "people of color"
And the Republicans would do it again.
Republicans ended slavery, Passed the Civil Rights Law, Ended the Jim Crow Laws. Ended Segregation.
And they call us racists.

I just don't care.

But yeah, this invasion by other non Americans, needs to end.
And America is not a color. It's a people that love this country, no matter where you came from, or who your ancestors were.
And if you want to be an American because you love the idea of Freedom and Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. And you agree that Our laws are worth living by to be a Citizen, then we have laws that can make that happen. But you have to follow the rules.
It has to be Legal.
Illegal immigration is intolerable to a country built on the Rule of Law.

 

[Ziggy]

I know Ziggy- I read about Ken Paxton- the problem I'm talking about is still there tho- the 1.5 million aint going away. Damage is done.

I do believe there will be a way to dissolve that "citizen" status by the under the jurisdiction clause, and proof of the parents being born citizens. We will fix it. I don't know how, there a lot smarter lawyers on Capitol Hill. I'm sure they will thin of something.
We can always Pray.
And I know God hears prayers.
Hugs