Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

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And by the way, you brethren that are LAZY in your Old Testament Book study, ought to at least read the latter part of Ezekiel 47 and the Ezekiel 48 Chapter where God gave the FINAL layout of ALL the future 12 tribes of Israel according to their places in the holy land. And further, per Jesus in Matthew 19:28, He promised His 12 Apostles would each reign as king over one of those 12 tribes in His future Kingdom on earth.

If you are a member of Christ's Church (as I am), then where is YOUR assignment like that in Christ's future Kingdom at His return? Jesus didn't specifically tell you where your place would be like He did with the 12 tribes of Israel and His 12 Apostles, did He? No, He didn't. Jesus only promised His faithful elect that they would reign with Him as priests and kings. But where would that be regarding us who are not His 12 Apostles?

This is just common sense per the written Bible Scriptures about Christ's Salvation in His Kingdom to come when He returns. So when someone tells you different than what those Bible Scriptures reveal about this matter, then you know there's some of the "many antichrists" at work against God's Plan as written in those Scriptures, and those who push their false ideas are simply... deceived by the devil.
 

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Same goes for covenantee as for WPM. Both try to insert falsehood into the Bible Scriptures that is not written. Spiritual Israel is about anyone who of any nationality that believes on Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. The literal SEED of Israel are the CHOSEN SEED which God ordained and has promised to save, all those of them that believe.
Here is your literal seed:

1. Of Israel:
Not all Israel
The children of the flesh
Not the children of God
Not the children of the promise
Not counted for the seed

Here is their destiny:

Matthew 23 33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

They meet your criteria.
But not God's.

They are your CHOSEN SEED.
Destined for hell.

Stop trying to delude yourself otherwise.
 
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Same goes for covenantee as for WPM. Both try to insert falsehood into the Bible Scriptures that is not written. Spiritual Israel is about anyone who of any nationality that believes on Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. The literal SEED of Israel are the CHOSEN SEED which God ordained and has promised to save, all those of them that believe.

This is all noise. There is no addressing of the arguments. That is because you cannot. Your position is bereft of veracity.
 
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So when someone tells you different than what those Bible Scriptures reveal about this matter, then you know there's some of the "many antichrists" at work against God's Plan as written in those Scriptures, and those who push their false ideas are simply... deceived by the devil.

Here you go again. Everyone who disagrees with you is antichrist. You are so full of yourself.

You are blinded to your own error.
 
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If you are a member of Christ's Church (as I am), then where is YOUR assignment like that in Christ's future Kingdom at His return? Jesus didn't specifically tell you where your place would be like He did with the 12 tribes of Israel and His 12 Apostles, did He? No, He didn't. Jesus only promised His faithful elect that they would reign with Him as priests and kings. But where would that be regarding us who are not His 12 Apostles?
Would an unsaved person be better off to become a Jew in order to receive all the promises made to the 12 tribes? Or would becoming a Christian be better for an unsaved person? I mean I would think it really looks more attractive to an unsaved person to become a Jew and get all the promises and promised land than become a Christian and not get those things. Especially since it seems most Premils are saying the end of this age is really close. For some people it might be better to just become a Jew then convert when the tribulation comes in order to lock in all the promises, otherwise they might miss out.
 
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Galatians 6:15-16

Galatians 6:15-16 further reinforces the idea that we are spiritual Israel today, asserting: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.”

Q. 1 Who is Paul specifically speaking to?
Q. 2 What is he speaking of in this text?
Q. 3 Who is he speaking about?

A. 1 He is primarily speaking to Gentile believers in Galatia, although there would doubtless have been Jewish converts among that assembly of believers.
A. 2 The whole focus of this passage is the subject of circumcision, and how it has no bearing upon the issue of salvation.
A. 3. All those who are born again.

Whilst this epistle was inspired of the Holy Spirit for the edification and instruction of the Church of Jesus Christ generally, it was initially and principally written to the Galatian Gentile believers. The verses that actually precede Paul’s instruction on “the Israel of God” makes it clear that his counsel was primarily directed to those Galatian saints who were experiencing hostility from certain Jews for not being physically circumcised. Paul in turn was specifically addressing the issue of circumcision, warning the Galatian Gentile believers against the dangerous crusade of these misguided Judadizers who were attempting to put them under bondage by compelling them to be circumcised.

Paul says of such, in his introductory comments in Galatians 6:12-13, “As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh (speaking of the Jews), they constrain you (Galatian Gentile believers) to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. For neither they themselves who are circumcised (namely the Jews) keep the law; but desire to have you (Gentiles) circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.”

Paul is constantly telling us in his writings in lucid terms that there is no ‘them and us’ within the body of Christ. He emphasizes how one’s Jewishness or Gentileness means absolutely nothing today “in Christ Jesus.” He actually rebukes those that try to establish distinct groupings within the body of Christ (namely Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians). Paul repeatedly instructs the New Testament believer that there should be no racial, cultural or economic division within the body. 1 Corinthians 12:25 says: “That there should be no schism in the body.”

Paul explains in verse 15 that one’s natural Jewish ancestry or physical appearance has absolutely nothing to do with one’s standing before God, rather it is one’s spiritual birthright only.

Moreover, the Greek word used in this passage for “rule” is the word kanoni, which means a rule or canon, i.e. a standard of faith and practice; by implication, a boundary, i.e. a sphere of activity. There is hence an important proviso cited here for one being of the spiritual “Israel of God,” and therefore enjoying the “peace” and “mercy” of the Lord; that is: irrespective of colour, creed, gender, birth-date (pre or post Calvary) or status that one is born again of the Spirit.

There is not one canon of faith for Jewish Christians and another canon of faith for Gentile Christians. Collectively they come under Paul’s definition of the “many” (Galatians 6:16). All are now one in Christ. All are governed by the same heavenly rules. This is the whole force of Paul’s teaching here and repeatedly throughout the New Testament. That is why he preferences the debated expression with the clear words: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.”

Romans 2:25-29

The Apostle declares in Romans 2:25-29: “For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit.”

Romans 2:25-29 is quite powerful in that it changes the nature and scope of what a real Jew (the “circumcision”) and a real Gentile (the “uncircumcision”) are in God’s eyes under the new covenant. God takes these common natural terms and spiritualizes them, and in doing so redefines the whole argument of true identity.

The Holy Spirit shows the supernatural change that occurs under the new covenant where physical circumcision has been superseded by just spiritual circumcision in salvation. This is the sign of covenant participation. This change is so clear and indisputable. It is spiritual.

Throughout the New Testament, the natural ethnic title uncircumcision (normally used to describe a Gentile) is amazingly used to describe the unbelieving Jew. Also, the natural ethnic title circumcision (normally used to describe a natural Jew) is amazingly used to describe the believing Gentile. This would have been anathema to the unbelieving Jews of Paul’s day. It would have been the greatest insult to a Jew.

He is comparing those that are spiritually circumcised (representing all believers – both Jew and Gentile) to those that are spiritually non-circumcised (representing unbelievers – both Jew and Gentile). This is essentially a saved or lost issue, which keeps coming up repeatedly in Scripture. That is the only 2 peoples in this world, not Jew or Gentile.

It would be helpful to categorize the parties in view. Let us illustrate.

(A) Physical circumcision
(B) Physical non-circumcision
(C) Spiritual circumcision of the heart
(D) Spiritual non-circumcision of the heart

What Paul is saying is that A and B means nothing. Salvation is not a natural matter. He is emphasizing here as he continually does in his writings, C and D are what it is all about. This is how God truly views all men. Nothing else matters. He shows that C refers to all irrespective of race, nationality or status that accept Christ. He especially highlights how the Gentile who is by nature a B has been brought into this chosen grouping (

C) through the blood of Jesus. He equally shows that D refers to all irrespective of race, nationality or status who reject Christ. He especially highlights the fact there will be those of A that equally belong to D and therefore damned. Nothing could be simpler.

In short, he shows that there will be those that are one thing in the natural and the opposite in the spiritual. Natural Jews can be classed as spiritual Gentiles and natural Gentiles can be classed as spiritual Jews. Of course, a natural Jews can also be a spiritual Jew through Christ, and a natural Gentile can also be a spiritual Gentile through refusing Christ.

We are not Isreal in any sense. In order to get Isreal in the scriptures you posted you had to insert it in parenthesis.
As it is we are ahead of the Jews......the tree illustration is similar to the body of Christ.
Isreal exists in the land that Yahweh gave them.
The Jews are known to be the children of God and we are the adopted children of God.
What we will inherit next is Heaven, that is better than land.
The way the scriptures read, the Jews are doomed. But I am not so sure, all things are possible with God.
To be chosen by a God is a big deal, and we are chosen.
Yahweh never offered Heaven to the Jews, Yeshua opened the gates of Heaven to us.
That is significant enough.
 

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We are not Isreal in any sense. In order to get Isreal in the scriptures you posted you had to insert it in parenthesis.
As it is we are ahead of the Jews......the tree illustration is similar to the body of Christ.
Isreal exists in the land that Yahweh gave them.
The Jews are known to be the children of God and we are the adopted children of God.
What we will inherit next is Heaven, that is better than land.
The way the scriptures read, the Jews are doomed. But I am not so sure, all things are possible with God.
To be chosen by a God is a big deal, and we are chosen.
Yahweh never offered Heaven to the Jews, Yeshua opened the gates of Heaven to us.
That is significant enough.
You fail to address any of the arguments. Sadly, this is pretty typical when dealing with Dispies.

You need to stick to the Word - instead of what you have been taught. Heaven has been the believer's hope since Abraham. That is the hope of him and his offspring. His expectation of Abraham was not physical but spiritual, not earthly but heavenly. The Old Testament saints were exactly like us. Their hope was the same.

Hebrews 11:8-10 describes how our great father of the faith, the Patriarch, Abraham looked for that great heavenly city, saying, “By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: for he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.”

The Greek word for “strange” here (as in “strange country") is allotrios which actually means another’s, or not one’s own; by extension foreign, not akin, hostile. The earthly Promised Land was not the true home of God’s Old Testament people. It was not the place of true peace and rest. Many enemies resided within those borders, and much trouble and strife continued there even when Israel took her promised borders. The children of Israel were indeed “strangers and pilgrims on the earth.” This world was not their home. Basically, they were strangers in a strange land.

Hebrews 11:8-10 is clearly talking about Old Testament earthly Israel. It is talking about the ancient promised land. The text is talking about the patriarchs’ sojourn in the earthly Canaan land. It notably describes Abraham’s experience there as “a stranger in a foreign country.” There is no other interpretation. It also chronicles his honorable son Isaac and grandson Jacob’s experiences to be the same as his own. This totally blows apart the premillennialist fixation with the Old Testament promised land. This shows that physical Israel and its ancient boundaries were never intended to be the true Promised Land or the eternal inheritance. It confirms that it was never envisioned to be the eternal possession of natural Israel or God’s people. It was clearly conditional and temporal land.

Hebrews 11:9 tells us that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were “the heirs with him of the same promise” (Hebrews 11:9). What promise? The next verse explains: “For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God” (Hebrews 11:10). The Patriarchs eyes were on higher, better and longer-lasting things than Canaan. Their eyes were on the heavenly city that Christ is preparing for those that are His. Their eyes were upon eternal matters. Their focus was heavenly. Even though they were promised an earthly piece of real estate their hope was always heavenly. It says here that Abraham: “looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” That city was clearly the New Jerusalem. The possession of this city has been the goal of every believer from the beginning. Abraham was looking forward to a heavenly country and to a city whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 says, specifically speaking of the great Old Testament champions of faith, “These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”

It wasn’t just Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that were strangers in their ethnic homeland; so were all the rest of the old covenant saints who populated national Israel. Hebrews 11:12 describes Abraham’s natural seed as “so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. the sand of the sea.” And even though most of them at some juncture populated the area promised from the Euphrates River to the River of Egypt, the Hebrew writer testifies to the fact that please quit Old Testament giants died “not having received the promises.” The Scripture say that they “seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them.” What is more, they “confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.”

Obviously the taking of the natural, earthly, temporal land was not the end-all and be-all of their existence. It was not what it was all about. There was something better, greater, higher and longer-lasting that was promised to them that would fulfil Israel’s deepest desires – something larger than real estate in the Middle East. It was the Messiah Jesus Christ and the perfected state that comes at His appearing in the form of the new corrupt-free, sin-free, death-free, wicked-free, eternal perfect earth.
 

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You fail to address any of the arguments. Sadly, this is pretty typical when dealing with Dispies.

You need to stick to the Word - instead of what you have been taught. Heaven has been the believer's hope since Abraham. That is the hope of him and his offspring. His expectation of Abraham was not physical but spiritual, not earthly but heavenly. The Old Testament saints were exactly like us. Their hope was the same.

Hebrews 11:8-10 describes how our great father of the faith, the Patriarch, Abraham looked for that great heavenly city, saying, “By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: for he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.”

The Greek word for “strange” here (as in “strange country") is allotrios which actually means another’s, or not one’s own; by extension foreign, not akin, hostile. The earthly Promised Land was not the true home of God’s Old Testament people. It was not the place of true peace and rest. Many enemies resided within those borders, and much trouble and strife continued there even when Israel took her promised borders. The children of Israel were indeed “strangers and pilgrims on the earth.” This world was not their home. Basically, they were strangers in a strange land.

Hebrews 11:8-10 is clearly talking about Old Testament earthly Israel. It is talking about the ancient promised land. The text is talking about the patriarchs’ sojourn in the earthly Canaan land. It notably describes Abraham’s experience there as “a stranger in a foreign country.” There is no other interpretation. It also chronicles his honorable son Isaac and grandson Jacob’s experiences to be the same as his own. This totally blows apart the premillennialist fixation with the Old Testament promised land. This shows that physical Israel and its ancient boundaries were never intended to be the true Promised Land or the eternal inheritance. It confirms that it was never envisioned to be the eternal possession of natural Israel or God’s people. It was clearly conditional and temporal land.

Hebrews 11:9 tells us that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were “the heirs with him of the same promise” (Hebrews 11:9). What promise? The next verse explains: “For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God” (Hebrews 11:10). The Patriarchs eyes were on higher, better and longer-lasting things than Canaan. Their eyes were on the heavenly city that Christ is preparing for those that are His. Their eyes were upon eternal matters. Their focus was heavenly. Even though they were promised an earthly piece of real estate their hope was always heavenly. It says here that Abraham: “looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” That city was clearly the New Jerusalem. The possession of this city has been the goal of every believer from the beginning. Abraham was looking forward to a heavenly country and to a city whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 says, specifically speaking of the great Old Testament champions of faith, “These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”

It wasn’t just Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that were strangers in their ethnic homeland; so were all the rest of the old covenant saints who populated national Israel. Hebrews 11:12 describes Abraham’s natural seed as “so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. the sand of the sea.” And even though most of them at some juncture populated the area promised from the Euphrates River to the River of Egypt, the Hebrew writer testifies to the fact that please quit Old Testament giants died “not having received the promises.” The Scripture say that they “seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them.” What is more, they “confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.”

Obviously the taking of the natural, earthly, temporal land was not the end-all and be-all of their existence. It was not what it was all about. There was something better, greater, higher and longer-lasting that was promised to them that would fulfil Israel’s deepest desires – something larger than real estate in the Middle East. It was the Messiah Jesus Christ and the perfected state that comes at His appearing in the form of the new corrupt-free, sin-free, death-free, wicked-free, eternal perfect earth.

That is the point, I stick to what Word says, instead of trying to twist it. If we were the new Isreal the scripture would plainly say so. You would not need all those words to try to sell your belief. God bless Isreal.
 

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That is the point, I stick to what Word says, instead of trying to twist it. If we were the new Isreal the scripture would plainly say so. You would not need all those words to try to sell your belief. God bless Isreal.
Lol. It does say it. I showed you. You avoided it.
 

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Would an unsaved person be better off to become a Jew in order to receive all the promises made to the 12 tribes?

The Gentile nations are still going to exist in Christ's future physical Kingdom on earth, even the end of Isaiah 19 shows this, as does the end of Zechariah 14 also. Yet they also will inherit God's promise by Faith He gave to Abraham which was passed to Israel. For Christ's "very elect" that will reign with Jesus, they will serve Him at His table at the new Millennial temple Jesus will build when He comes. And recall the end of Revelation which reveals a heavenly cube for the new Jerusalem that will reach also out from the earth.

Rev 21:16
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed,
twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
KJV

The 'Holy of Holies' at Solomon's temple was a perfect cube of 20 cubits.

"furlongs" in the Greek above is the word stadion, which was about 202 English yards.
 

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That is the point, I stick to what Word says, instead of trying to twist it. If we were the new Isreal the scripture would plainly say so. You would not need all those words to try to sell your belief. God bless Isreal.
Scripture does plainly say so, but you just believe what you want to believe instead.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Ephesians 2:11
Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
 
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Scripture does plainly say so, but you just believe what you want to believe instead.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Ephesians 2:11
Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Still and again, nothing that says that specifically Christianity is the new Isreal.
If it were true, it would be easy enough to say.
The Jews failed and kingdoms of Isreal fell, do we want to be part of that?
 

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Initially it's not my intention to dispute anything in the OP, though that could change, depending whether or not you have convincing answers for any questions that might be raised. Therefore, in light of the OP, how do you propose one should interpret a passage such as the following?

Jeremiah 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever .
37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured , and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done , saith the LORD.
Then the SEED of israel shall cease from being a nation forever .
And now a word .
IF my Kingdom were of this world my servants had fought that i would not have been delivered .
WHO is this SEED of abraham , this SEED of israel
this seed that came of the lineage of king david and yet was BEFORE david ever was .
A kingdom that would be the TRUE and not the earthern . WHerein the TEMPLE be GOD and the LAMB .
Ye have come unto MOUNT ZION and THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM .
The earthern nation got trod under , the earthern temple REPLACED
by HE who made the way INTO THE HOLIEST OF ALL .
The first was patterened AFTER the heavenly but the SECOND IS THE HEAVENLY itself .
Thus let all who name the name of JESUS get far and wide from anything and anyone connected
to this ecumeincal intefaith and its abraham anti christ peace accords . THE WHOLE place GOING DOWN on JESUS day .
 

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Scripture does plainly say so, but you just believe what you want to believe instead.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Ephesians 2:11
Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
what they cannot see is WHO these promises were pointing too and WHO would fullfill them .
OH ISRAEL never did cease , the lineage and promise that a king would never lack to sit the throne of david
DID NOT cease . SOMEONE established IT . And the KINGDOM is now HEAVENLY . THE JERSUALEM HEAVENLY
THE ISRAEL HEAVENLY , THE TEMPLE heavenly and IT bE GOD AND THE LAMB .
these people who cling to the flesh shall perish with the flesh . And he whose hopes b e in man are cursed .
THE WHOLE of it all JESUS WOULD fullfill .
And what was once patterened after THE heavenly , WOULD BE REPLACED WITH THE HEAVENLY . they DO NOT SEE THIS
for they follow men and these men lead them all to the ecuemincal whore of intefaith , to a lie , to a lie .
TO A LIE that has DENEID the dire need to even have to bELEIVE on JESUS .
and has lied and said THE MUSLIMS JEWS CHRISTAINS are serving the same GOD . OH NO THEY AINT .
THE ONLY ONES serving the ONE TRUE GOD are THE BELIEVERS . NOT THE UNBLEIVERS . and the islam religoin is of satan .
 

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Scripture does plainly say so, but you just believe what you want to believe instead.

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

Ephesians 2:11
Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
They do not see . they do not want to see .
WHY do you think after all that writing paul said this, THE ISRAEL OF GOD .
They cling to men . they cling to men . And they make excuses for this abraham peace accords and more .
They cling to , they hope in men . NOT GOD . NOT GOD , NOT CHRIST . And how i pray they repent fast too .
ALL , not most , not some , ALL will worship the beast whose names were not in the LAMBS book of life .
Already this plan of anti christ be at work and they follow its eucmeincal harlot and her interfaith plan .
THEY DO NOT care one bit JESUS has been trod under foot . NOT one bit .
THEY beleive IT . they BLEIEVE this abraham peace accords , this intefaith of anti christ .
NOT ME . IT DENIED THE DIRE NEED to BELEIVE ON JESUS , I KNOW from whence it came , THE DEVIL himself .