Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[Marvelloustime]

There be only one who has always come and first came upon mankind
to twist and omit what GOD had said . That be the serpent .
And i assure us all that none wants to follow and beleive that one .
The reason doubt is being placed upon the bible , is none other than the work of the dark one
who , as usual , comes to omit what GOD has said in favor of a lie .
This people perish from lack of knowledge . One thing that all false prophets
no matter what they teach do have in common is
YOU can bet they have twisted and omitted the TRUTH in Scriptures for to f it a lie . ON that There is zero doubt .
Their lies might not always be the same , OH BUT IT IS A LIE indeed that all false ones will and do teach .

@amigo de christo

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yet Jesus said without Me you can do nothing. You're only partly right with some of the things you are saying. That is what happens when the carnal mind is involved....it doesn't know how to think or teach in spirit. In this case you are leaving out mercy and grace and leaving it up to people to be "good enough" and to "earn" their salvation. People who think they have "earned" certain things have a problem with pride. Where is God getting the glory here? He isn't at all. This is what I would call "fallen from grace" type of teaching.

Calling people "religious nuts" and "scripture monkeys"... ? Golly. Is that what you consider to be righteousness and good fruit? Why should anyone listen to someone who is always belittling and talking down to people like this?

its what we have called in other chatroom cult mentality. He does have his following though..

 

[amigo de christo]

What is needed is spiritual understanding, which unfortunately is often lacking around here.

And why do you suppose that is my dear dear sister .
IF one denies Christ , thus His words , THAT BE NOT the WORK of THE HOLY SPIRIT
who IS TRUTH and would have TESTIFIED ON JESUS THE CHRIST , on the words of TRUTH .
Many follow the flesh and beleive it to be the one true SPIRIT they do hear and they do heed .
But upon real quick examination their so called spiritual knowledge will contradicts his words .
AND THAT the HOLY SPIRIT does NOT DO . Many are indeed become very very wise
and full of knowledge , ONLY ITS CARNAL and NOT THE SPIRITUAL . They are ever learning
and unable to come to the TRUTH .
LEST ye become as children ye shall in no way ENTER INTO the KINGDOM of GOD .
And any child of the most high GOD does not promote REBELLION to THE MOST HIGH GOD and HIS CHRIST .
THEY , as small children have put their faith , their hope , their trust upon GOD and not upon men .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Hey sister if a president told you that if you believe him and follow him then your will have a pardon for your trangessions .
That he already did all that was necessary to get the legislation passed for you to attain your pardon .
And you say No way i dont beleive that . Tell me what are you calling this president and will you recieve your pardon .
And the answer is you would be calling him a liar and NO you wont get your pardon .
And now a word .
Unto he or she who hears the gospel and beleives not , THEY DO CALL GOD A LIAR and WILL NOT recieve
pardon for their trangressions .
And if one says OH i believe in this GOD , THIS JESUS , but i dont beleive its necessary to have had to beleive on him
for to recieve forgivenss and pardon from sins , to recieve salvation and eternal life ,
THEY DO call GOD A LIAR and will recieve ONLY their just due they had earned which is the second d eath .
We cannot both cliam to BELEIVE in THE CHRIST of GOD and then make excuse for unbeleif as though
its okay to not beleive . For he or she who does so , DID NOT BELIEVE THE VERY SON
who st ated very clearly such things , as did the apostels , as did JESUS f rom heaven in the book of revelation .
Many add too and take from the very Words inspired by GOD , by His CHRIST
and then say , HEY WE ARE FREE TO DO SO and make the path very broad to GOD . Their fate
will not be good at all . IT be JESUS pointing too and JESUS procliaming time in the house .
For all else is but vainity and the pride and rebellion of men .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

I'm sorry you feel that way...but the ones going to outer darkness based on God's judgment which is just, as in righteous, were saved from death. That is saved.

Rom. 10:11-12 says:
"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Are you calling Paul a liar??
Are you redefining "saved?"
Are you saying God is not just?
The people who are thrown into outer darkness have called upon the name of the Lord.

I'm asking because your statement goes against scripture.
Feelings aside, please clarify.

Nobody would be weeping and gnashing their teeth along with the unbelieving if they were going to be saved. Outer darkness speaks of the grave which is a picture of death, destruction, perdition, the pit. Gravesites being unclean, were always outside the City.

 

[Marvelloustime]

And why do you suppose that is my dear dear sister .
IF one denies Christ , thus His words , THAT BE NOT the WORK of THE HOLY SPIRIT
who IS TRUTH and would have TESTIFIED ON JESUS THE CHRIST , on the words of TRUTH .
Many follow the flesh and beleive it to be the one true SPIRIT they do hear and they do heed .
But upon real quick examination their so called spiritual knowledge will contradicts his words .
AND THAT the HOLY SPIRIT does NOT DO . Many are indeed become very very wise
and full of knowledge , ONLY ITS CARNAL and NOT THE SPIRITUAL . They are ever learning
and unable to come to the TRUTH .
LEST ye become as children ye shall in no way ENTER INTO the KINGDOM of GOD .
And any child of the most high GOD does not promote REBELLION to THE MOST HIGH GOD and HIS CHRIST .
THEY , as small children have put their faith , their hope , their trust upon GOD and not upon men .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

You have found what most of us already knew.

whats amazing is he has not even met the standard he himself proclaims must be met.. yet he is telling everyone to follow him.

RUN!!

and what is worse than even that is , that there man who does procliam to have attained
also implies this can be done WITHOUT FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
OH he has attained all right . But what has he attained , A LIE . A lie that has made void
the upmost dire need for to BELEIVE ON THE VERY CHRIST and SON OF GOD .
And HE is not alone in his mission for the removal of the one true gospel in favor of the ecumeincal inclusive spell
being sold as a gospel .
But remember this and remember this well my friend . HE WHO HONORS NOT THE SON DOES NOT HONOR the FATHER .
And thus HE who beleives not the testimony that GOD gave of the SON do call GOD A LIAR .
And calling GOD and HIS CHRIST a liar , IN NO WAY does that HONOR THE SON OR THE FATHER . IT BE REBELLION .

 

[Marvelloustime]

That is a good reminder sister .
But i have a far better question for us all .
WHY would anyone sit and listen to anyone who says OH ITS OKAY TOCALL GOD A LIAR .
For he who BELIEVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , DOES exactly that , calls GOD A LIAR .
So how righteous and holy is it for one to try and make void the very gospel that sure do entail one must Believe on JESUS the CHRIST .
As john well wrote , YE have no need that one teach you but as the SAME annointing teaches you .
EPI is not teaching the one true gopsel of our salvation . ITS another one which is no gospel at all .
SO he only needs be exposed and warned to repent and to cease .
Many many who do twist things can sound very very wise , because in part they do and will bring truths
but imply by such t ruths it was not necessary to have TO BLEIEVE ON HE whom GOD did send .
MAKING THE WHOLE of it all A LIE . Just as the serpent do and does . Always using scriptures
but in a way that makes void THE TRUTH , rather than bringing scrips to SUPPORT the TRUTH .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

And why do you suppose that is my dear dear sister .
IF one denies Christ , thus His words , THAT BE NOT the WORK of THE HOLY SPIRIT
who IS TRUTH and would have TESTIFIED ON JESUS THE CHRIST , on the words of TRUTH .
Many follow the flesh and beleive it to be the one true SPIRIT they do hear and they do heed .
But upon real quick examination their so called spiritual knowledge will contradicts his words .
AND THAT the HOLY SPIRIT does NOT DO . Many are indeed become very very wise
and full of knowledge , ONLY ITS CARNAL and NOT THE SPIRITUAL . They are ever learning
and unable to come to the TRUTH .
LEST ye become as children ye shall in no way ENTER INTO the KINGDOM of GOD .
And any child of the most high GOD does not promote REBELLION to THE MOST HIGH GOD and HIS CHRIST .
THEY , as small children have put their faith , their hope , their trust upon GOD and not upon men .

Relying on the carnal mind to analyze and pick things apart instead of relying on the Spirit like little children, Who simply gives us sight to see, ears to hear to be able to spiritually discern and perceive what GOD meant by anything He had written down. Who knows the mind of God (or even a man) but His Spirit? His ways are beyond finding out for the mind and wisdom of man. Carnal mind is ENMITY with God....it will always miss the mark and lead astray.

 

[Laurina]

Nobody would be weeping and gnashing their teeth along with the unbelieving if they were going to be saved. Outer darkness speaks of the grave which is a picture of death, destruction, perdition, the pit. Gravesites being unclean, were always outside the City.

That’s not biblical, @Lizbeth

 

[Marvelloustime]

and what is worse than even that is , that there man who does procliam to have attained
also implies this can be done WITHOUT FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
OH he has attained all right . But what has he attained , A LIE . A lie that has made void
the upmost dire need for to BELEIVE ON THE VERY CHRIST and SON OF GOD .
And HE is not alone in his mission for the removal of the one true gospel in favor of the ecumeincal inclusive spell
being sold as a gospel .
But remember this and remember this well my friend . HE WHO HONORS NOT THE SON DOES NOT HONOR the FATHER .
And thus HE who beleives not the testimony that GOD gave of the SON do call GOD A LIAR .
And calling GOD and HIS CHRIST a liar , IN NO WAY does that HONOR THE SON OR THE FATHER . IT BE REBELLION .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Relying on the carnal mind to analyze and pick things apart instead of relying on the Spirit like little children, Who simply gives us sight to see, ears to hear to be able to spiritually discern and perceive what GOD meant by anything He had written down. Who knows the mind of God (or even a man) but His Spirit? His ways are beyond finding out for the mind and wisdom of man. Carnal mind is ENMITY with God....it will always miss the mark and lead astray.

very True indeed my dear sister . The carnal mind is ENMITY with GOD and it will NOT recieve the things of GOD .
As we see that some now even DENY THE VERY GOSPEL of THE ONE TRUE GOD and OF HIS CHRIST .
someone here amongst us , WILL NOT recieve the testimony of GOD
and will hammer on those who have and their reminders that one MUST beleive .
THAT BE THE CARNAL MIND at work and as you can see IT DO work REBELLION to GOD and HIS CHRIST
and is at ENMITY with GOD . And it has removed the narrow and only way to GOD
in favor of a broad inclusive one which leads only to destruction .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's interesting because that's how I think of your teachings....half truths, or some truths mixed with untruths. I guess the difference is that I make no claims about myself. Oh well, God will judge between us.....who am I? I just know I cant' eat from this Tree and it has been disappointing. But it's alright....the Lord is gracious to show me things in His word and has given me other witnesses to glean from, so I'll just continue to be led by Him.

that is the core of legalistic doctrines.

Half truths, mixed in with false truth. False truths usually which point to self..

things done in the flesh will never glorify God. and will never lead us to salvation

 

[IndianaRob]

For that matter, why have Hebrew scholars or scribes who find that a jot or tittle was dropped or added that alters our understanding of the original.
measure twice, cut once.

Why isn’t God able to inspire translators to write exactly what he wants written?

 

[Episkopos]

Ok then why have a Bible in the first place if it can’t be trusted?

Why not trust in the Lord Himself? The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. You search the bible because you think by reading it you have eternal life...but the bible points to Jesus...they testify of HIM. Now go seek first His kingdom.

 

[amigo de christo]

that is the core of legalistic doctrines.

Half truths, mixed in with false truth. False truths usually which point to self..

things done in the flesh will never glorify God. and will never lead us to salvation

That is exactly h ow the serpent has always worked his lie upon mankind .
And now a word .
WHAT DID JESUS preach n teach and later what and who did the true apostels point too .
And what did JOHN warn the church about my friend .
And what did paul warn the church about my friend .
And peter and the others .
WHO and what DID they point too . WHY IT WAS JESUS and ALL HIS teachings of course .
And what do the serpent do , WHY he always brings these half truths in order to plant a lie .
A lie that has indeed made the road to what it and its men beleive and claim to be GOD
but in reality it be satan and his broad sin accepting unbelief accepting road to peridtion .

 

[IndianaRob]

Why not trust in the Lord Himself? The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. You search the bible because you think by reading it you have eternal life...but the bible points to Jesus...they testify of HIM. Now go seek first His kingdom.

Which Lord? The Lord people create in their minds or the Lord of the Bible?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Quite a number of "interesting" seemingly coincidental things people have said........it's like being in an alternate universe sometimes. Not sure what it means exactly.

And I have to tell you, @Episkopos where you said somewhere that you were walking in the higher walk without having learned righteousness yet......I think that is probably quite right, because it has been a hunch I had for a long while in trying to discern what's what here. We sometimes in our zeal (or even presumptuousness or pride in some cases I think) can get ahead of the Lord's leading so to speak...it is like entering the Holy of Holies without the Holy Spirit as covering....we need to stay with Him, not run ahead of Him where He is not (for us yet). He goes before us, preparing the way, not behind us. Our motives may need purifying first for one thing. Another problem is if people keep trying to justify their unrighteousness.....they will not learn righteousness that way.

remember what would happen if the high priest entered the holy of holies without the blood sacrifice.

 

[amigo de christo]

Why isn’t God able to inspire translators to write exactly what he wants written?

Why my dear friend you already know the answer to this question .
HE CAN AND DID . Its just men dont like what is written for it gets in the way
of what they desire and love above all . SIN and the god of their mirror who so easily will accept
such a god who promises them sin and salvation and does so without FAITH in HE who our FAITH was supposed to have
been in all along . THE VERY SON OF GOD , THE CHRIST OF GOD , by whom all who do BELEIVE in HIM
shall not perish but have everlasting life . This generation needs to quit trying to remove
the core corner stone of the entire foundation , THIS generation needs to cease trying to remove the YE MUST BLEIEVE
in him . Also to not follow another jesus who does accept sins and unbelief , because THAT HE DOES NOT DO .

 

[Lizbeth]

That’s not biblical, @Lizbeth

I gave you the scriptures which speak to those things.