Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[Episkopos]

Do you think (and it’s still despicable no matter what) they KNOW what they’re doing?

Partly. They know that they are defending a religious scheme that they believe is supported in the bible. Where the dishonesty lies is in ignoring all the verses that condemn their stance. After that pride kicks in...and arrogance....and accusations... so that they think those who criticize them are doing the same thing as they are. Like Lizbeth who always defends her stance with...well you can only be half-right just like me.

Sometimes it seems to me it is hidden from them what they do.

Partly. They just think I am doing as they are....so they defend themselves as being no WORSE than others. But they KNOW they are not doing the will of God beyond their belief in a salvation scheme that justifies the dishonest. They KNOW that they sin....they just think everyone does just like them.

At other times, it angers me and I think they HAVE to know what they’re doing. I don’t know why it matters to me to know if they do or they don’t…except that if I think they don’t, I can pity them and if I think they do I will be angry and can condemn them

I see them as mixed....and mixed up even in what is good. They would need for God Himself to tell them they are going the wrong way. But because they don't seek the Lord and only read the bible ABOUT God, they will never see their great delusion. So they need someone like me to challenge them. :)

 

[Lizbeth]

Just came back to relate something else I’ve noted in here that also happened with the non religious I grew up with. They used to do an odd thing - one particular person did it a lot - where they would sort of…get mad at me for what I said but then later, I would hear them speaking with someone else with the exact words I had said that they were ANGERED at in our private conversation! It’s like…they stole my words, my view of a thing. And at first I would think, oh, they don’t know they’re doing it, maybe they went away and thought about it and realized it was true but don’t remember me saying it. And I would get a rush of hope that they had seen something good and true. It didn’t even matter to me that I get any “credit” for having been the one who told the truth because of the hope I had. But I eventually came to see that was not what was happening. I don’t know if I can explain what WAS, in fact, happening other than to say…they did see something they esteemed as good, but they sort of stole it to make the goodness seem to others like it was theirs? And once or twice I would later say, so you DO agree with me on that even though it at first made you angry to hear, because I heard you repeat it! And they would act as if they had ALWAYS thought so and had no idea what I was talking about. They were only adjusting or perfecting their mask, their put on persona, so others would think them good or admirable. But they never LIVED as though they BELIEVED that goodness they stole.
I don’t know if that makes sense to you, but I see people do that to you in here, and just like with those I grew up with, there is one person in particular who does it incessantly, steals goodness they see, and then projects their badness onto you as if it were yours, as if no one can see what they attempt to do.
Its despicable, and they seem as if they want to appear as an angel of light to others and I can’t quite understand WHY…I‘m missing that piece.

Interesting.....because I seem to see Epi doing that quite a lot.

 

[Lizbeth]

Just came back to relate something else I’ve noted in here that also happened with the non religious I grew up with. They used to do an odd thing - one particular person did it a lot - where they would sort of…get mad at me for what I said but then later, I would hear them speaking with someone else with the exact words I had said that they were ANGERED at in our private conversation! It’s like…they stole my words, my view of a thing. And at first I would think, oh, they don’t know they’re doing it, maybe they went away and thought about it and realized it was true but don’t remember me saying it. And I would get a rush of hope that they had seen something good and true. It didn’t even matter to me that I get any “credit” for having been the one who told the truth because of the hope I had. But I eventually came to see that was not what was happening. I don’t know if I can explain what WAS, in fact, happening other than to say…they did see something they esteemed as good, but they sort of stole it to make the goodness seem to others like it was theirs? And once or twice I would later say, so you DO agree with me on that even though it at first made you angry to hear, because I heard you repeat it! And they would act as if they had ALWAYS thought so and had no idea what I was talking about. They were only adjusting or perfecting their mask, their put on persona, so others would think them good or admirable. But they never LIVED as though they BELIEVED that goodness they stole.
I don’t know if that makes sense to you, but I see people do that to you in here, and just like with those I grew up with, there is one person in particular who does it incessantly, steals goodness they see, and then projects their badness onto you as if it were yours, as if no one can see what they attempt to do.
Its despicable, and they seem as if they want to appear as an angel of light to others and I can’t quite understand WHY…I‘m missing that piece.

Just want to mention that you have come in very late to a conversation that has been going on for a very long time. You'd have to go back to the beginning to be able to know and judge with actual righteous judgment what individual posters have believed and stood for from the beginning.

So I guess we are to take it that constant belittling and demeaning people, along with never rending false accusations isn't despicable to you though.....ok then sister. Thank you, enough said.

 

[Behold]

I give people here a LOT more credit than I should.

I give you all the credit you deserve for spreading religious heretical falsehood designed to "sound spiritual" so that the noob self righteous Christian will find it "interesting".

Let me show you what is really interesting,..

2nd Corin 5:21


2 Corinthians 5:21 says:

"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us,


Here is the verse.........God, Virgin born, made under the law, lifed a sinless life.
This same Life, is given to the BELIEVER in place of their Sinful Life.

This is why Paul's verse says.........

""""" so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.""""

= Now, Paul's verse very simply defines the only RIGHTEOUSNESS that can be gained by a sinner like YOU @Episkopos .

Whereas you, pretend that you are "doing righteousness" to try to gain it, which simply reveals you as a Cross Rejecting Deceiver, and you'll keep proving me right, as you always do.... @Episkopos
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"For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ.".

English Standard Version
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Berean Standard Bible
God made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

Berean Literal Bible
He made the One not having known sin to be sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

King James Bible
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

New King James Version
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

New American Standard Bible
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin in our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

NASB 1995
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

NASB 1977
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Legacy Standard Bible
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Amplified Bible
He made Christ who knew no sin to [judicially] be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we would become the righteousness of God [that is, we would be made acceptable to Him and placed in a right relationship with Him by His gracious lovingkindness].

Berean Annotated Bible
God made Him who knew no sin to be sin (a sin offering) on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God {Theou}.

Christian Standard Bible
He made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He made the One who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

American Standard Version
Him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

Contemporary English Version
Christ never sinned! But God treated him as a sinner, so Christ could make us acceptable to God.

English Revised Version
Him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of God in him.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
God had Christ, who was sinless, take our sin so that we might receive God's approval through him.

Good News Translation
Christ was without sin, but for our sake God made him share our sin in order that in union with him we might share the righteousness of God.

International Standard Version
God made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that God's righteousness would be produced in us.

NET Bible
God made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that in him we would become the righteousness of God.

New Heart English Bible
For him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Webster's Bible Translation
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Weymouth New Testament
He has made Him who knew nothing of sin to be sin for us, in order that in Him we may become the righteousness of God.