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[The Light]

For those of you that don’t know this and are watching for the return of the Lord, there is a 7-year covenant with many that was signed in September 2023. Is this the covenant with many that is mentioned in Daniel 9, that will start the final 7 years of the age? We don’t know and will not know unless the Antichrist confirms it. The Church, however, will be raptured before that time is able to occur.

Daniel 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

What we can determine is that the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation. How do we know that?

Revelation 2
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

We don't know the if 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant with many is the covenant spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

However, we should be aware that the Church is not in heaven before the final week begins. Watch and be ready.

 

[The Light]

1. There is not one single scripture that proves that the Church will be in heaven before the final 7 years begins.

2. Yes, there is a 70th week of Daniel. However, according to scripture, there only remains 3.5 years of the 70th week.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

For those of you that don’t know this and are watching for the return of the Lord, there is a 7-year covenant with many that was signed in September 2023. Is this the covenant with many that is mentioned in Daniel 9, that will start the final 7 years of the age? We don’t know and will not know unless the Antichrist confirms it. The Church, however, will be raptured before that time is able to occur.

Daniel 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

What we can determine is that the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation. How do we know that?

Revelation 2
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

We don't know the if 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant with many is the covenant spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

However, we should be aware that the Church is not in heaven before the final week begins. Watch and be ready.

Why say this, and not explain fully? What do the initials mean? Who are the parties?

 

[The Light]

Why say this, and not explain fully? What do the initials mean? Who are the parties?

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant. Sustainable Development Goal.

 

[Randy Kluth]

For those of you that don’t know this and are watching for the return of the Lord, there is a 7-year covenant with many that was signed in September 2023. Is this the covenant with many that is mentioned in Daniel 9, that will start the final 7 years of the age? We don’t know and will not know unless the Antichrist confirms it. The Church, however, will be raptured before that time is able to occur.

Many, like myself, believe that the 70th Week of Dan 9 was fulfilled in the time of Jesus' earthly ministry. I personally believe the 70th Week was fulfilled as a Half-Week, and not a full week. Jesus ministered for 3.5 years and was "cut off." Then, in that generation, the Temple and Jerusalem were destroyed. Nothing remains to be fulfilled of the 70 Weeks of Dan 9.

This is popular prophecy in America--Dispensationalism. We have all of these books and all of these movies, etc. They stir people up with the idea the Rapture of the Church can take place "at any moment." Nothing in the Scriptures indicate that Jesus can return "at any moment," or "on any day." Rather, Jesus' Return is simply portrayed as being "near" because he has already provided atonement for sin, ie for Salvation, meaning that Eternal Judgment remains as the alternative. And our time may be up on any day because on any day our soul may be required of us.

Daniel 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

What we can determine is that the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation. How do we know that?

Revelation 2
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

We don't know the if 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant with many is the covenant spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

However, we should be aware that the Church is not in heaven before the final week begins. Watch and be ready.

"Watching" for Jesus meant being aware of deceptions that lead us off the path of Eternal Life. We need to be aware of False Christs who proclaim God's Kingdom is already here in some cultic group. We need to watch out for false gospels, etc, that would lead us away from the righteousness that we have by faith in Christ.

We are not "watching" for an "any-moment Rapture of the Church." Nothing of the sort is taught in the Scriptures.

By contrast, Paul in 2 Thes 2 teaches that before Christ can return for the Church the Antichrist must appear first. And then Christ will return to destroy him. That is when Christ will return--when it is time to destroy and defeat the Antichrist.

 

[CrowCross]

We are not "watching" for an "any-moment Rapture of the Church." Nothing of the sort is taught in the Scriptures.

Tell that to the thief in the night.

 

[CrowCross]

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

2 Thes 2.

 

[The Light]

2 Thes 2.

That is no way implies that the Church will be in heaven before the 7 years begins.

There are no scriptures that say that the Church will be in heaven before the 7 years begins.

 

[Douggg]

2. Yes, there is a 70th week of Daniel. However, according to scripture, there only remains 3.5 years of the 70th week.

Look at Ezekiel 39:9. 7 years.

The fifteen end times - time frames in the bible fit within the 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

 

[Douggg]

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

No, it is not the Daniel 9:27 covenant.

Once the Antichrist is anointed the King of Israel, he will make a big speech to the children of Israel from the temple mount in accordance with Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Re-establishing the 7 years cycle of verse 10, and confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant of Daniel 9:27.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Tell that to the thief in the night.

You either believe Paul or not?
2 Thes 2.1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?...
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Tell that to the thief in the night.

Jesus meant that for unbelievers that are not watching for Him.

 

[CrowCross]

That is no way implies that the Church will be in heaven before the 7 years begins.

There are no scriptures that say that the Church will be in heaven before the 7 years begins.

????? I'm having a hard time understanding your thoughts....It speaks of the "gathering"...then it speaks of the revealing of the antichrist.

 

[CrowCross]

You either believe Paul or not?
2 Thes 2.1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?...
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

I'm failing to see your point.

You do know Jesus comes twice?

 

[The Light]

No, it is not the Daniel 9:27 covenant.

We don't know that just yet. It is a 7 year covenant with many which is the only requirement. It will either be confirmed, or it won't be.

Once the Antichrist is anointed the King of Israel, he will make a big speech to the children of Israel from the temple mount in accordance with Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Re-establishing the 7 years cycle of verse 10, and confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant of Daniel 9:27.

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This is just something you are making up because you see 7 years. Those 7 years reoccur every 7 years.

I don't see anything about a big speech given by the Antichrist in Deuteronomy 31.

Deuteronomy 31
9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and unto all the elders of Israel.

10 And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles,

11 When all Israel is come to appear before the Lord thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

12 Gather the people together, men and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the Lord your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:

13 And that their children, which have not known any thing, may hear, and learn to fear the Lord your God, as long as ye live in the land whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

 

[The Light]

????? I'm having a hard time understanding your thoughts....It speaks of the "gathering"...then it speaks of the revealing of the antichrist.

Could you clarify your question so I can answer correctly.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You either believe Paul or not?
2 Thes 2.1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?...
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

You just laid out the pre 7yr trib rapture.
* Falling away
* Ac revealed pretrib...not in power yet.
* But first the restrained is removed.
* Which is The rapture of the church pre 7yr
trib.

Thanks for those passages.

 

[rebuilder 454]

For those of you that don’t know this and are watching for the return of the Lord, there is a 7-year covenant with many that was signed in September 2023. Is this the covenant with many that is mentioned in Daniel 9, that will start the final 7 years of the age? We don’t know and will not know unless the Antichrist confirms it. The Church, however, will be raptured before that time is able to occur.

Daniel 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

What we can determine is that the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation. How do we know that?

Revelation 2
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

We don't know the if 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant with many is the covenant spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

However, we should be aware that the Church is not in heaven before the final week begins. Watch and be ready.

No
The church is raptured pre 7 yr trib.
Whatever earthly covenant you are inventing is not a player.
THAT...puts the church in heaven for 7 years.

You evidently do not know the purpose of the tribulation.
It is Jacob's trouble.
It is Israel's trouble and has absolutely nothing to do with the church.
It has zero to do with the church ...nothing at all.
Those left behind after pre 7 year trib rapture are martyred by the Antichrist.
He requires a mark.We already see the birth pangs of the mark.
All the groundwork, and the push, to have people marked is already in the working.
And that is how Christians will be turned in an executed.
The inumerable number that is in heaven came out of the tribulation.
they are billions of martyrs.
so many that no one can count them. And they came out of the tribulation period.

they are the left behind believers that are murdered for not receiving the mark.

You are trying to break up dan 9:27.
You need it to work due to your interpretation of "trib", vs "great trib", vs "wrath".
Which is the cart before the horse.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You either believe Paul or not?
2 Thes 2.1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?...
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

Try presenting it without editing.
You omitted vs 7.

But let's reread it in a pure form.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The pretrib rapture.
* AC REVEALED..NOT IN POWER YET.
(....but something is preventing it.)
* that something is removed...the Church pre 7 yr trib rapture.

 

[rebuilder 454]

For those of you that don’t know this and are watching for the return of the Lord, there is a 7-year covenant with many that was signed in September 2023. Is this the covenant with many that is mentioned in Daniel 9, that will start the final 7 years of the age? We don’t know and will not know unless the Antichrist confirms it. The Church, however, will be raptured before that time is able to occur.

Daniel 9

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This covenant with many is the United Nations 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant.

Something that believers should be aware of is that most of those that believe in a Pretribulation Rapture believe that the Church will be in heaven before the 7-years begins. There is not one single scripture in the Word of God that says this. Not one.

What we can determine is that the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation. How do we know that?

Revelation 2
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

We don't know the if 7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant with many is the covenant spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

However, we should be aware that the Church is not in heaven before the final week begins. Watch and be ready.

2 thess 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
"Revealed" spoken 3 times.

The pretrib rapture.
* AC REVEALED..NOT IN POWER YET.
(....but something is preventing it.)
* that something is removed...the Church pre 7 yr trib rapture.