(The Beast) & (The Two Witnesses) Will Be On This Earth Together For 3.5 Years (Then Cometh The End)

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You falsely believe and teach that at the return of Jesus Christ a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth takes place "Wrong"
You did not read Zechariah 14:3-5. When Jesus returns, he will stand on the Mt. of Olives splitting it in half. Not burning up the earth.


In Act 1:11-12

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

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How will the two witnesses deal with anyone who tries to harm them ? Fire proceeding from their mouth, right ?

Now, in Revelation 19:21, Jesus destroys the armies that have gathered to make war on Him and His army of heaven. Destroyed with his mouth, metaphorically his speech as that of sword..

So Jesus returning with fire. When He speaks, like the two witnesses, fire may come forth from his mouth to destroy those armies.

Also, in Revelation 19:20, where will the false prophet and beast be cast ? Into the lake of fire.

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Also, in Revelation 19:12, the appearance of Jesus's eyes indicating the wrath He is coming with...

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
 
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You did not read Zechariah 14:3-5. When Jesus returns, he will stand on the Mt. of Olives splitting it in half. Not burning up the earth.

You fail to recognize that Zechariah 14:8 shows that the "River Of Life" is flowing from Jerusalem, eternal life has started, the unsaved mortals have been burned up as they stand on their feet, flesh, eyes, tongues, "consumed" as Zechariah 14:12 clearly shows, why do you continue to disregard God's words before your eyes, why?​

Douggg you falsely claim Jesus is going to be revealed to start a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, and scripture before your eyes clearly teaches Jesus will be revealed in fire and he destroys the unsaved wicked, why do you disregard God's words before your eyes in Luke17:29-30 "Why"?​


(Destroyed Them All) By Fire, When Jesus Is Revealed (All) Means (All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed
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Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom​


Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 
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You fail to recognize that Zechariah 14:8 shows that the "River Of Life" is flowing from Jerusalem, eternal life has started, the unsaved mortals have been burned up as they stand on their feet, flesh, eyes, tongues, "consumed" as Zechariah 14:12 clearly shows, why do you continue to disregard God's words before your eyes, why?​


Again, the Hebrew word used is a plague or pestilence. It is not describing fire.
 

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Douggg you falsely claim Jesus is going to be revealed to start a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, and scripture before your eyes clearly teaches Jesus will be revealed in fire and he destroys the unsaved wicked, why do you disregard God's words before your eyes in Luke17:29-30 "Why"?
No, you are misrepresenting what I have posted and show on my charts.

In Matthew 24:30a, Jesus will be revealed in the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.


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No, you are misrepresenting what I have posted and show on my charts.

In Matthew 24:30a, Jesus will be revealed in the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
Jesus will be revealed (In Flaming Fire) taking vengeance 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8 , Jesus will destroy all the unsaved wicked by (Fire) at his revealing Luke 17:29-30

Douggg you completely disregard the very simple scripture before your eyes below as if it doesn't exist "Why"?

Douggg don't run away in distraction talking about your charts, respond directly to the scripture below

Question: 1.) Is Jesus going to be revealed in the future with "Fire"? Yes/No

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God
, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 
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Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Again, you did not include the comparison Jesus also made regarding the flood, in Luke 17:26-27.

Also, you left off 17:28, which starts off with what word ?
 
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IMO:
The seven Jewish holidays reflect seven acts of the Messiah:
1. Passover "slain as a lamb" (Isaiah 53:7)
2. Unleavened bread "he had done no violence" (Isaiah 53:9)
3. First Fruits "first fruits from the grave" (Psalm 16:10)
4. Pentecost "sends the spirit" (Joel 2:26)
5. Trumpets "returns in judgment" (Daniel 7:13)
6. Atonement "atones for Israel" (Isaiah 59:20)
7. Booths "Millennial reign" (Psalm 72:11)

(Note: leaven is symbolic of sin.)
 
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Jesus will destroy all the unsaved wicked by (Fire) at his revealing Luke 17:29-30

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


How many people will be living in Sodom when Jesus returns?
 

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Again, you did not include the comparison Jesus also made regarding the flood, in Luke 17:26-27.

Also, you left off 17:28, which starts off with what word ?
Once Again?

Question: 1.) Is Jesus going to be revealed in the future with "Fire"? Yes/No

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God
, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 

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Once Again?

Question: 1.) Is Jesus going to be revealed in the future with "Fire"? Yes/No

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God
, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
You did not answer my question of what is the first word in Luke 17:28.

Luke 17:
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Jesus was making comparisons that when He returns, it will be in judgment of a world in rebellion. And the world will not expect His appearance, nor the sixth seal event when it will take place.

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Jesus was making comparisons that when He returns, it will be in judgment of a world in rebellion. And the world will not expect His appearance, nor the sixth seal event when it will take place.

Right. Both examples teach the world will suddenly be surprised by the second coming, not that fire or water will be used to kill anyone. The only weapon I know of used by Christ is a symbolic sword not fire or water. He also avoids that only one city is mentioned in the verse, or that the entire story in the OT was a few cities not a global killing by fire.
 

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The Bible indicates a 1000-year reign of the Messiah from Jerusalem. It is mentioned in Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20.

"Millennium" stems from Latin: (mille = thousand) + (annus = year).
 
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The Bible indicates a 1000-year reign of the Messiah from Jerusalem. It is mentioned in Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20.

"Millennium" stems from Latin mille = thousand + annus = year.
I Disagree

However the Bible mentions the Antichrist proclaiming to be God on earth ruling from Jerusalem "
 

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Satan and his angels were banished to earth, see Isaiah 14:22-15 and Ezekiel 28:12-17.
Eph 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

Is Ephesians 2:2 a reference to Satan? If so, how does he have air power if he is banished to the earth?
 

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Is Ephesians 2:2 a reference to Satan? If so, how does he have air power if he is banished to the earth?
Does "Air" exist outside earth's atmosphere?

Isn't the Atmosphere of the earth considered part of the earth?

Wikipedia: Atmosphere of Earth consists of a layer of mixed gas (commonly referred to as air) that is retained by gravity, surrounding the Earth's surface. It contains variable quantities of suspended aerosols and particulates that create weather features such as clouds and hazes. The atmosphere serves as a protective buffer between the Earth's surface and outer space. It shields the surface from most meteoroids and ultraviolet solar radiation, reduces diurnal temperature variation – the temperature extremes between day and night, and keeps it warm through heat retention via the greenhouse effect. The atmosphere redistributes heat and moisture among different regions via air currents, and provides the chemical and climate conditions that allow life to exist and evolve on Earth.
 
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I Strongly Disagree

Zechariah Chapter 14 shows (The Day Of The Lord) taking place, the very same day seen in 2 Peter 3:10 "Fire"

(The Very Same Day Of The Lord In "Fire")

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

(The Very Same Day Of The Lord In "Fire")

Zechariah 14:1KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

(The Very Same Day Of The Lord In "Fire")

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Revelation 19:17-21 "
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Ezekiel 39:17-23 "
17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood. 18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. 19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. 20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord God. 21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. 22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward. 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

I agree that there will be fire, just not the elemental consuming fire of Peter.

When are these birds in Rev. and Ez. going to eat if everything is consumed by fire?

How will the house of Israel and the heathen know anything if they are all burnt up?
 
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Eph 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

Is Ephesians 2:2 a reference to Satan? If so, how does he have air power if he is banished to the earth?
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He came from heaven, lots of air in heaven.
And he was thrown down (Ezekiel 28:14-19).
 
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Eph 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

Is Ephesians 2:2 a reference to Satan? If so, how does he have air power if he is banished to the earth?
Angles and cherubim can travel through the air.
 

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Revelation 19:17-21 "
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Ezekiel 39:17-23 "
17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood. 18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. 19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. 20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord God. 21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. 22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward. 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

I agree that there will be fire, just not the elemental consuming fire of Peter.

When are these birds in Rev. and Ez. going to eat if everything is consumed by fire?

How will the house of Israel and the heathen know anything if they are all burnt up?
That's the kind of post I would make.

Also following the Gog/Magog event is 7 years in Ezekiel 39:9. That 7 years is the same 7 years of Daniel 9:27.

Ezekiel 39:17-23 is at the end of those 7 years.

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