Flat Earth Theory

[Armour of God]

You haven't answered any of the scriptural imperatives that have been posted, relying instead on the world's carnality. Yet grace abounds.

Because none if them say the earth is flat.
Please show me where it says the earth is flat.

but conversely cannot see the so-called south pole star Sigma Octantis, the Southern Cross, or other outer constellations simultaneously from every point south of the equator

Incorrect. I live south of the equator and can see all that simultaneously. They all rotate clockwise around sigma octatis.

because they all sweep over a great southern arc from their rise in the evening to their setting in the morning.

Incorrect. I live here, I witness it. They all rotate clockwise around sigma octatis. You live in NZ, you can witness this yourself if your will to see the truth

You cannot explain how our sky rotates clockwise and how the north sky rotates anti clockwise.

Brother, this is one of many reasons why I went from believing flat earth to not believing it. It cannot explain this

 

[doctrox]

You cannot explain how our sky rotates clockwise and how the north sky rotates anti clockwise.

Already done.

Please show me where it says the earth is flat.

Please get off of your duff and...

 

[Armour of God]

Already done

No you didn't. You made erroneous claims that I corrected you on and didn't at all explain why the north sky rotates in the opposite direction to the south sky.

 

[Armour of God]

@doctrox

Answer this one.

I'm in Australia facing due south looking at the southern cross stars. Meanwhile in South America or South Africa someone else is facing due south looking at the southern cross at the same time I am...



How is this possible on flat earth?

 

[doctrox]

Answer this one.

The people in the southern continents don't see the southern cross at the same time. You only see the section of stars above you and as far as you can see. Regardless of what shape the earth is, you aren't even trying to figure it out. Only repetitive insults with the same false YouTube and Facebook meme. In your cartoon, make the flat earth way bigger and the person way smaller, and think!

 

[Armour of God]

The people in the southern continents don't see the southern cross at the same time.

Incorrect again my friend. We are all seeing the southern cross at the same time at night.
It's visible all night long and it's always to the south. These facts are well established

Only repetitive insults

Excuse me... When did I ever insult you?
You were the one trying to align me with Satan. I'm the one who asked for the insults to stop my brother.

make the flat earth way bigger and the person way smaller, and think!

It's the same outcome. People looking in different directions and seeing the southern cross to the south at the same time. It doesn't work on flat earth.

I watched the southern cross for months to establish these facts.

So that's another refutation of flat earth from a personal observation.

 

[doctrox]

Excuse me... When did I ever insult you?
You were the one trying to align me with Satan. I'm the one who asked for the insults to stop my brother.

Rather, you've accused several of us of the same.

We are all seeing the southern cross at the same time at night.
It's visible all night long.

No, that's an incorrect oversimplification based on your prejudice.

So that's another refutation of flat earth from a personal observation.

That's another reason why you're flummoxed i.e. relying on "personal observation."

It's not my job to show you anything, and you've corrected no one. Maybe hook up with Peter1 over at the NonChristian Help Forum. Bottom line: Don't be lazy. You alone are responsible for your voluminous rhetoric. Although I have extended much grace, there is a limit all around (Gen. 6:3). While I've never used the ignore feature, I am contemplating it...

My 17-year-old can understand this video; maybe you can, too. It's only 18 minutes in length:

Eric Dubay: Star Trails Explained

If you want to chat further, then come to the table with some honest observations about the video and not the same ole boilerplate responses. There is wisdom and care in how and where I share profound truths, rather than engaging with people who are purely combative or unreceptive (Mat. 7:6). For you, the ultimate solution to your angst may be to stop repeatedly accusing the brethren via false piety and genuinely seek the Lord in prayer.

Choose to believe God, and ask Him. He wilk answer. And you won't have to use your carnal mind to figure or rationalize it.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Rather, you've accused several of us of the same.


No, that's an incorrect oversimplification based on your prejudice.


That's another reason why you're flummoxed i.e. relying on "personal observation."

It's not my job to show you anything, and you've corrected no one. Maybe hook up with Peter1 over at the NonChristian Help Forum. Bottom line: Don't be lazy. You alone are responsible for your voluminous rhetoric. Although I have extended much grace, there is a limit all around (Gen. 6:3). While I've never used the ignore feature, I am contemplating it...

My 17-year-old can understand this video; maybe you can, too. It's only 18 minutes in length:

Eric Dubay: Star Trails Explained

If you want to chat further, then come to the table with some honest observations about the video and not the same ole boilerplate responses. There is wisdom and care in how and where I share profound truths, rather than engaging with people who are purely combative or unreceptive (Mat. 7:6). For you, the ultimate solution to your angst may be to stop repeatedly accusing the brethren via false piety and genuinely seek the Lord in prayer.

The earth is FLAT & GOD has revealed to you the verses that actually teach that ? :)
Quoting verses :-
- What height is the dome at the North Pole
- What height is the dome at the equator
- What height is the dome at the populated edges of the earth
- Why does the equator see ALL the stars yet the North Pole & populations near the dome perimeter can't ?
- Why does the same item weigh less at the equator than the North Pole or populations near the dome perimeter
- What diameter is the sun ?
- How far is the sun from the earth ?

 

[PeterAndroz]

@doctrox

Answer this one.

I'm in Australia facing due south looking at the southern cross stars. Meanwhile in South America or South Africa someone else is facing due south looking at the southern cross at the same time I am...

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How is this possible on flat earth?

and then they want you to believe they understand Scripture :)

 

[Armour of God]

Rather, you've accused several of us of the same

Ok but no insults. I've only accused you of being wrong just like you've accused me of being wrong.

No, that's an incorrect oversimplification based on your prejudice

Na mate. It's an established fact.

The southern cross is visible to the south all night long by everyone south of the equator any time of year. I watched it closely for several months and tracked its movements. You can see it whenever you want from NZ if you had the courage to face the truth. But I doubt you do.

That's another reason why you're flummoxed i.e. relying on "personal observation."

Nothing wrong with observations. That's how we can confirm facts. I'd encourage you to do some observations of the southern cross instead of just listening to flat earth lies

It's not my job to show you anything, and you've corrected no one

I've corrected you several times with your false claims. You can easily observe this from NZ but you choose to just parrot the flat earth lies instead of looking for yourself.

Fact - The southern sky rotates opposite to the northern sky
Fact - The southern cross is visible to the south all night and every night from everywhere in the southern hemisphere.

Don't be lazy.

Your the lazy one refusing to observe the night sky. I used to believe flat earth but I observed and studied and realized I was wrong.

Although I have extended much grace, there is a limit all around (Gen. 6:3). While I've never used the ignore feature, I am contemplating it...

Grace. You regard linking people to Satan being graceful. Please. Put me on ignore if you wish but it won't be cos I'm rude it will be cos you can't deal with the facts.

For you, the ultimate solution to your angst may be to stop repeatedly accusing the brethren via false piety and genuinely seek the Lord in prayer.

I'm accusing you of being wrong and your doing the same, it's called a debate and I have refuted your flat earth claim in several ways. You have inly responded with erroneous claims.
You should be seeking the Lord in prayer for your false assumptions of flat earth just like I once did

 

[David Lamb]

Scientifically = pure nonsense

WATER will NEVER curve around a ball/globe.

No matter the distance = WATER always seeks it's own level

I'm no scientist, but I think the fact that a ball as large as the earth has a strong gravitational "pull" which keeps water (and you and me) on the earth.

 

[David Lamb]

I've pretty much exhausted my patience with some of you, and I will mostly refrain myself to only posting content relevant to the subject of the OP. I have A LOT on my plate and need to focus on things that are truthful and spiritually profitable.

To any of you doubters of God's Word who have unanswered questions, I would advise you to seek God rather than be contentious against what His Word says. We all have areas where we struggle to believe God and we have to work out our own salvation before God with fear and trembling. Submit those areas to God ... trust Him, and wait. He will answer when and how He sees fit.

Strife is not the answer. Focus on Christ and hold on to the truth with all your strength. We have to love the truth above the love of the world, because if we don't, strong delusion is coming. BEWARE!

I do agree that our focus should be on Christ. We are saved by Him, not because of what we believe about the shape of the earth.

 

[Armour of God]

#1 WATER can never adhere to a ball
#2 - WATER will never adhere to a ball spinning at 1,000mph

Therefore, all other "evidence" that does not agree with the Laws of Physics/WATER is invalid.

You refused to answer my question because you have no answer to it. Flat earth cannot explain it without making false claims.

But I'll respond to your claim.
Water does adhere to the earth which is a globe. Why.
Because gravity holds down water just like it holds down everything else.
A large mass has gravity. The bigger the mass the more gravity it has.
Physics and mathematics proves this.
The Cavendish experiment proves this.
It's an experiment that has been performed and confirmed by countless people.
Look into it.

 

[Armour of God]

To my flat earth friends.
Please answer this.
Why can't I see the sun at night when I can see stars that are much further away?

 

[Armour of God]

Rather, you've accused several of us of the same.


No, that's an incorrect oversimplification based on your prejudice.


That's another reason why you're flummoxed i.e. relying on "personal observation."

It's not my job to show you anything, and you've corrected no one. Maybe hook up with Peter1 over at the NonChristian Help Forum. Bottom line: Don't be lazy. You alone are responsible for your voluminous rhetoric. Although I have extended much grace, there is a limit all around (Gen. 6:3). While I've never used the ignore feature, I am contemplating it...

My 17-year-old can understand this video; maybe you can, too. It's only 18 minutes in length:

Eric Dubay: Star Trails Explained

If you want to chat further, then come to the table with some honest observations about the video and not the same ole boilerplate responses. There is wisdom and care in how and where I share profound truths, rather than engaging with people who are purely combative or unreceptive (Mat. 7:6). For you, the ultimate solution to your angst may be to stop repeatedly accusing the brethren via false piety and genuinely seek the Lord in prayer.

I started watching the video you posted and i can see that your just parroting the lies in that video, word for word, without observing it yourself.
Google confirms

It also confirms

And then later in that video it actually does admit that the southern cross can be seen all year round in the southern hemisphere. So the video contradicts itself

I don't just believe everything I see or hear.
I make observations to confirm it and listen to other sources.
Something that you don't do.

And see how I went out of my way to watch your video despite it being long, boring and full of errors. That's because I look at both sides. You only look at one side, a heavy case of confirmation bias.

I challenge you to do your own observation.
After sunset face south, find the southern cross and note its position. Then every 2 or 3 hours go out and note its position again. You will see that it turns clockwise and over a full night will turn 180 degrees.
But I doubt you have the guts to face reality and see for yourself, you'd rather just believe false flat earth videos from YouTube

 

[Marvelloustime]

Who is the great deciever , the one who convinced the woman to eat of the tree . That one deceives .
But did you know that all false religoins , as well as non beleiving in JESUS jews
are actually trapped in his bondage and in his lie and still in sin and will face only the second death .
And did you know that a wh ole heap of them all now
believe this great deceiver who has yet again said HAS GOD really said
YE must believe and then says nay nay not necessary ............for all religoins are serving the same GOD in different ways .
Ever get the feeling that in part it is the same god they all are heeding . ONLY notice i said god and NOT GOD .
Cause GOD aint in the business of DENYING TRUTH . Only the serpent does that .
Someone is and has been lying to planet earth , to the false religoins and oh yes to a whole heap of christendom too .
And worse it seems a whole lotta someones sure seem to LOVE A LIE . And have zero love for TRUTH .
but then one cannot love both a lie and truth . ITS ONE or the other but will never be both .
AND since we are on the subject of truth , i just wanted to let us all know something that SOME of us sheep already do know .
That T RUTH is not just an idea , TRUTH ITSELF IS A BEING . NOT just a being but THE VERY CREATOR of all that was and is .
I AM THE TRUTH , THE WAY , as in ONLY WAY , and THE LIFE . And NO man comes to the FATHER but by ME .
And seeing HE IS THE TRUTH , well we both KNOW its IMPOSSIBLE for HIM TO LIE .
But its not impossible for the devil to do so or man , or the harlot . NO they do lie .
AND a lie the sheep DO NOT BUY . FOR JESUS , WHO IS THE TRUTH and came TO TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH
has HIS SHEEP david . OH HE has HIS sheep and they do count the cost
and have bought the TRUTH and shall sell her not . FOR HIS SHEEP HEAR HIS V OICE . just a friendly reminder for us all .

@amigo de christo

 

[PeterAndroz]

I've pretty much exhausted my patience with some of you, and I will mostly refrain myself to only posting content relevant to the subject of the OP. I have A LOT on my plate and need to focus on things that are truthful and spiritually profitable.

To any of you doubters of God's Word who have unanswered questions, I would advise you to seek God rather than be contentious against what His Word says. We all have areas where we struggle to believe God and we have to work out our own salvation before God with fear and trembling. Submit those areas to God ... trust Him, and wait. He will answer when and how He sees fit.

Strife is not the answer. Focus on Christ and hold on to the truth with all your strength. We have to love the truth above the love of the world, because if we don't, strong delusion is coming. BEWARE!

You have already seeked GOD & believe verses have been revealed to you that teach FLAT EARTH
Fine, then steer us ignorant ones to the verses that explain :-
Distance of the sun
Size of the sun
Why gravity is stronger at the poles
Why the equator sees stars that the poles can't
Why the North Pole has 24hr days in June & 24hr nights in Dec yet the equator doesn't
Height of the 'dome' above the North Pole

 

[David in NJ]

I'm no scientist, but I think the fact that a ball as large as the earth has a strong gravitational "pull" which keeps water (and you and me) on the earth.

Gravity has never been proven
Gravity CANNOT be observed

Gravity does not exist EXCEPT in the minds of the world system = controlled by the satanists/globalists educational program.

NASA/globalists/satanists = Gravity is their unseen 'god' = the 'spirit' power that holds all thing together

Gravity is easily proven/observed to not exist.

 

[David in NJ]

You refused to answer my question because you have no answer to it. Flat earth cannot explain it without making false claims.

But I'll respond to your claim.
Water does adhere to the earth which is a globe. Why.
Because gravity holds down water just like it holds down everything else.
A large mass has gravity. The bigger the mass the more gravity it has.
Physics and mathematics proves this.
The Cavendish experiment proves this.
It's an experiment that has been performed and confirmed by countless people.
Look into it.

Gravity has never been proven
Gravity CANNOT be observed

Gravity does not exist EXCEPT in the minds of the world system = controlled by the satanists/globalists educational program.

NASA/globalists/satanists = Gravity is their unseen 'god' = the 'spirit' power that holds all thing together

Gravity is easily proven/observed to not exist.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Scientifically = pure nonsense

WATER will NEVER curve around a ball/globe.

No matter the distance = WATER always seeks it's own level

You have never been on a ship in the middle of a huge great lake or on the ocean if you believe this..