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The bow is representative.
It represents covenant.
God used a bow with the flood to SYMBOLIZE covenant.
The AC comes with the covenant.( a bow used to represent it, he will not have any actual bow in his hand...but he may have a document in his hand)
7 yr covenant.
In the middle of it is the AOD.( 3.5 years)
The bow is a bow.

The rider on the white horse is the false savior of the Babylonian religion. The Babylonian religion has spread all over the world in different forms.

The false Christ is Tammuz who carries a bow. He is from the Babylonian religion. He is also known as Horus. Additionally, he is known by many other names including Apollo.

All these false religions that spread all over the world beginning with the confusion that God brought at the Tower of Babel.

Babylon is the hammer of the world because of the false religion that it birthed.
 

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but when? where does it fit in revelations?
The second coming is not Revelation 19.

The second coming occurs at the 6th seal.......AS PROVEN BY SCRIPTURE.

There is a harvest of the righteous prior to the wrath of God at the 6th seal as believers are not appointed to wrath.
 

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The bow is representative.
It represents covenant.
God used a bow with the flood to SYMBOLIZE covenant.
The AC comes with the covenant.( a bow used to represent it, he will not have any actual bow in his hand...but he may have a document in his hand)
7 yr covenant.
In the middle of it is the AOD.( 3.5 years)
I have heard the "God used a bow with the flood to SYMBOLIZE covenant." and kinda like it.
 

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Christ returns at the 6th seal, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE. He returns for a harvest and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth.


Which part of the 6th seal says that?


The beast of the sea is Nimrod according to scripture.

Please post the scriptures that tell us that. I want to make sure the scriptures say these things you say they do, and aren't just beliefs you are projecting upon the texts.
 
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I have heard the "God used a bow with the flood to SYMBOLIZE covenant." and kinda like it.


The Greek word translated as bow in Rev is the bow one uses to shoot arrows, not a rainbow. It's TOXON, where the word TOXIC comes from because arrows were often dipped in toxic poison to be more effective.
 
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Everyone seem to have a different opinion on Christ's return i will pray on this.

You're there already, it's just that you seem to not realize that Christ's Revelation is only about the same 7 Signs He gave in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24, Mark 13. In Revelation they are simply expanded. But the clear order of the Signs are in His Olivet discourse, the final Sign being that of His future coming and gathering of His Church.
 
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Which part of the 6th seal says that?

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

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Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth
, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.


No harvest found in the 6th seal wording.



Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This is in the gospel not the Rev 6th seal. Same timeframe, neither describes events happening at that time. You said the harvest was in the 6th seal but it's not mentioned there. You should say the harvest is in the OD.
 

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How do you know this fulfills Daniel 9?
It won't be known if this is the 7 year covenant with many of Daniel 9 until it is confirmed by the Antichrist.

The Church will be raptured before the covenant is confirmed because the Antichrist will not be in power until after the Church is in heaven.
 

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It won't be known if this is the 7 year covenant with many of Daniel 9 until it is confirmed by the Antichrist.

The Church will be raptured before the covenant is confirmed because the Antichrist will not be in power until after the Church is in heaven.

Where are you getting this from?
 

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It won't be known if this is the 7 year covenant with many of Daniel 9 until it is confirmed by the Antichrist.

The Church will be raptured before the covenant is confirmed because the Antichrist will not be in power until after the Church is in heaven.
Where exactly do you get that and Daniel 9? Where in Daniel 9 does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does it mention a 3rd coming? It is simply not there! It has to be forced into the sacred text!
 

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How do you know that it WILL not?
Daniel 9:27 cannot refer to a United Nations “7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant” does not match the prophecy. Daniel says that “he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week”, referring to a specific person, not simply an international organization or development program. More importantly, this seven-year period is directly connected to Israel, Jerusalem, sacrifice and offering, because halfway through the period, sacrifice and offering are stopped, followed by the abomination of desolation. The UN Sustainable Development Goals have no connection to a Jewish Temple, sacrifices, or these events. Simply having a program that lasts seven years does not fulfill Daniel's prophecy. The prophecy requires far more specific signs, and those signs are not found in the UN SDG program. We have to look elsewhere for this prophecy the Abraham accords may be the prelude to another accord they may be signing when the present one expires in 2027, quite is happening right now in the middle east and we see some prophecy being accomplished at this time, for example Gaza...
 
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Where exactly do you get that and Daniel 9? Where in Daniel 9 does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does it mention a 3rd coming? It is simply not there! It has to be forced into the sacred text!
3 rd coming?
 

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Daniel 9:27 cannot refer to a United Nations “7-year Accelerated SDG Covenant” does not match the prophecy. Daniel says that “he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week”, referring to a specific person, not simply an international organization or development program.
I don't see a problem here. This is a 7 year covenant with many that can be confirmed by the Antichrist in the near future.

More importantly, this seven-year period is directly connected to Israel, Jerusalem, sacrifice and offering, because halfway through the period, sacrifice and offering are stopped, followed by the abomination of desolation. The UN Sustainable Development Goals have no connection to a Jewish Temple, sacrifices, or these events. Simply having a program that lasts seven years does not fulfill Daniel's prophecy. The prophecy requires far more specific signs, and those signs are not found in the UN SDG program. We have to look elsewhere for this prophecy the Abraham accords may be the prelude to another accord they may be signing when the present one expires in 2027, quite is happening right now in the middle east and we see some prophecy being accomplished at this time, for example Gaza...
Nothing in this covenant needs to be connected to Israel beyond they are one of the many.

In the midst of the week, he will cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.

Daniel 9
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

These verses identify both the Antichrist that will cause the sacrifice to cease and the covenant itself.
 

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I don't see a problem here. This is a 7 year covenant with many that can be confirmed by the Antichrist in the near future.


Nothing in this covenant needs to be connected to Israel beyond they are one of the many.

In the midst of the week, he will cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.

Daniel 9
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

These verses identify both the Antichrist that will cause the sacrifice to cease and the covenant itself.
History shows that the 490 years were linear, congruent and sequential. Those of us that take 490 years to mean exactly that do not have to prove that it is harmonious; we just have to accept what it states. We take it literally (1) because it happened literally, (2) there is no command to decapitate it and project it into the unknown. Seven multiplied by seventy comes to 490 cohesive unitary years, not 2,500 broken up years and counting. The clincher is: there is no gap mentioned in the prophecy so there is no need or warrant to insert one in there.

Let’s use an illustration. If you were directed to go to the next state and told and told it was exactly a 490-mile journey (right down to the very yard). You were told that in-between the starting point and your destination you would pass two important landmarks, the first after 49 miles, which was accurate to the very yard. The next was a further 434 miles ahead (bringing your journey to 483 miles in total), which also occurred right down to the very yard. The journey's end would be a final 7 miles down the road from your second landmark, making your total journey 490 miles. Exactly half way between 483 miles and 490 (486 ½ miles) you would witness a monumental landmark that would surpass anything you have ever seen. How would you then feel if you were told when you hit the second landmark that your final location was still a possible 2,000+ miles down the road with NO exact finishing point? Such an idea would be totally unthinkable in the natural, but unprecedented in God's economy. God always fulfils His promises.

No Pretribber will address my simple query. That is because their reasoning is nonsensical.