Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

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Episkopos

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Who asked for a prophet? Nothing prophetic in what you preach, just your run of the mill Calvinist.
Tell that to those who call me an inclusivist. You pretenders have to get your story straight.
Calvinists are infiltrators.....deceivers from the get go.

Tell that to the weird david guy who lurks here.
That is why you will generally not see a church with that name on the board out front. They infiltrate churches.....I have already had my show downs with them. (Not that you are a participating Christian that goes to church.....I would say you are probably more of an arm chair quarterback.)
The irony. I have a real ministry. You are just a troll here.
 

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You say I see that as offensive. But you speak without knowledge, foolishly.

Chastens and rebukes, absolutely! This is the lifeline He promises to all of us who know Him.

Hebrews 12:28-29 KJV
28) Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29) For our God is a consuming fire.
You believe that in theory....but your rebellious flesh identifies who you are.

You have "much love" in your words but you are reprobate in every work.

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
 

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You believe that in theory....but your rebellious flesh identifies who you are.
Again, speaking foolishly without knowledge. At some point will you ask yourself why it is that you treat others as you do? Just tearing down anyone you perceive as a threat?
 

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Again, speaking foolishly without knowledge. At some point will you ask yourself why it is that you treat others as you do? Just tearing down anyone you perceive as a threat?
That's your modus operendi. You are trolling me. You come here accuse me and then you complain when I reveal you and rebuke you....snowflake that you are. You are a victim of the feminization of the modern institutional church. Super sensitive even as you lash out with vindictive false "much love". The hypocrisy is amazing.
 

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It didn't take long before the spoilers came to destroy whatever truth was being promoted. It is no wonder the churches of today are in the state they are in....reprobate. I speak in understatement as I always do.
 

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That's your modus operendi. You are trolling me. You come here accuse me and then you complain when I reveal you and rebuke you....snowflake that you are. You are a victim of the feminization of the modern institutional church. Super sensitive even as you lash out with vindictive false "much love". The hypocrisy is amazing.
You are proving what I've said, in front of everyone.

I've posted your words alongside the Pharisee's words to show the sameness. You cannot tolerate that, and come back with more and more lambasting, Oh when will you understand?
 

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The irony. I have a real ministry. You are just a troll here.

You mean a cult following.....victims. That is why I am warning them.
AAH! But I do have a ministry, and I specialize in false beliefs and rescue missions for Jehovah's Witnesses and Calvinists. College educated Theologian and ordained, thank you.
 

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No, that's not the comparison I'm showing.

Well, I looked up the verse you posted and the man that was once blind, encountered Jesus and received sight, and was kicked out of the synagogue by the Pharisees because of his testimony  of what just happened to him. That's a great analogy!! Can YOU see it??

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Do you see the comparison between epi's words and these Pharisees? I do. Do you?

"I've walked in holiness in the kingdom realm without sin for extended periods of time . . . and you are trying to correct me?"

"You were altogether born in sins, and do you teach us?"


His claim aligns with the Pharisee's, claim, and his response mirrors theirs also. Do you see it now?
Perhaps, you need an encounter with Jesus so that your eyes can be opened to be able to see. For me, the importance of the story is about encountering Jesus and the consequences that come from it. Can you see that?? It's a different perspective than the one you have.
 

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You are proving what I've said, in front of everyone.

I've posted your words alongside the Pharisee's words to show the sameness. You cannot tolerate that, and come back with more and more lambasting, Oh when will you understand?
The church attracts dark tetrad type predators...narcissists who need constant approval... and sees any correction as a personal attack...as you do. A narcissist always thinks it's the other person that's the problem. I see through your performance so you attack me. That's why it's part of the DARK tetrad.

Anyone who questions the religious premise being played out is seen as a real threat. Manipulators prey on the kindness and credulity of those around them. If these are also feminized...it makes it all the easier. If the person they are seeking to manipulate is NOT feminized then they are just accused of being harsh and brutal. The truth is hated but covered with a personal defensiveness that seeks to hide in false accusations...as you do.

Well 2 out of 4 of the dark tetrad traits are yours in spades. I don't know you personally...nor do I want to... and I hope the list ends there.

But there it is. Now will you stop trolling my threads?
 

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The irony. You are doing what's called trolling. Coming in and doing a drive-by post to attack someone....is trolling.

Yes of course... trolling is your favorite new buzz word used to attack anyone who does not agree with all you say.

You should ditch that victim mentality one of these days


A narcissist always thinks it's the other person that's the problem

Which is exactly what you are doing by getting bogged in arguments.

Just say what you believe is correct and move on already.
 

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You mean a cult following.....victims. That is why I am warning them.
AAH! But I do have a ministry, and I specialize in false beliefs and rescue missions for Jehovah's Witnesses and Calvinists. College educated Theologian and ordained, thank you.
LOL This is hilarious. Ok, just because you seek approval from men doesn't mean you can do the very thing you accuse me of. Rescue mission? From the pot into the fire. It's laughable and self-important.

So in your view I have to be either a JW or a Calvinist ...your worldview has to be respected and adhered to... to give you a superior edge? You are a dogmatic religionist with a hammer that is just looking for nails to drive in based on your ideology. No light or life there.
 

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Yes of course... trolling is your favorite new buzz word used to attack anyone who does not agree with all you say.

You should ditch that victim mentality one of these days

I'm not a victim...I'm merely receiving from carnal men what they think of the truth. It's not my truth....it's God's. So the One you should be considering in this is Him.
Which is exactly what you are doing by getting bogged in arguments.

Just say what you believe is correct and move on.
Are you saying you don't agree with me? Fine. So move on.
 

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Well, I looked up the verse you posted and the man that was once blind, encountered Jesus and received sight, and was kicked out of the synagogue by the Pharisees because of his testimony  of what just happened to him. That's a great analogy!! Can YOU see it??


Perhaps, you need an encounter with Jesus so that your eyes can be opened to be able to see. For me, the importance of the story is about encountering Jesus and the consequences that come from it. Can you see that?? It's a different perspective than the one you have.
Your deflections don't interest me.

This merely shows how you are willing to avoid the topic and try to replace it with one more palatable to you.
 

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I'm merely receiving from carnal men what they think of the truth.

WHY would anyone want to receive from carnal men?

You should be receiving Truth from the Word of the Lord instead.


Are you saying you don't agree with me?

Well you are all over the map and seem to be reformed theology friendly over there
 

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Just say what you believe is correct and move on already.
He did!! But you chose not to comment on what he believes...you have other motives.
Again, there are different depths to knowing God. I have been to basically all the depths in my 46 years with the Lord.

I'm going to try teaching deeper truth here at the risk of my pearls getting overcome and trampled by pig's feet in the mud...

Sow in righteousness, reap in mercy (Hos 10:12)
Sow to the Spirit, reap eternal life (Gal 6:8)

These are the two levels of knowing God.

Jesus said, I am the door...

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. John 10:9

A potential saint goes IN AND OUT of the Spirit...meaning in and out through the door....finding pasture on BOTH sides of the door. When the seeker is not inside the house of God, he should wait patiently at His door. Draw near to Me and I will draw near to you.

There is pasture in God's realm and in ours. Ps 23 says...He makes me to lie down in green pastures. The pastures here are plural.

So whether present or absent from the Lord we do all to be at least accepted of Him. We are to bear fruit where we are and seek God to be where He is. We collect the dew of the morning until He rains His righteousness on us. The dew springs UP from the earth and the rain falls down from heaven.

As we collect the dew of the morning we are washed clean by the washing of the word. So we set off on our day with a peace derived from being forgiven and cleansed from our sin....from there we experience a peace with God. That is until we get involved in the world whereby our feet get dirty. We lose that peace during the day unless we are careful to stay unspotted from the world. Like a man who looks in a mirror and remembers what he looks like and who he is...in the inner man.

So on this level our peace depends on US drawing near to God. We have perfect peace as long as our hearts are stayed on our God.

But as we go through the door who is Christ, there is no need to collect the dew since it's raining righteousness. The peace with God at that level is beyond human understanding.


Being sinless by being in Christ is an afterthought. You see it more in retrospect....because you are too busy beholding the glory of the Lord.

In my normal walk NOW, I have the peace of a seeker that collects the dew every morning. But when I first fell out of the Spirit, I let myself go. I was selfish. It was easy to be loved by God, but MUCH HARDER to show my love for God by waiting at His door in the obedience of a servant.

Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. Prov 8:34

We love Him because He first loved us. But getting that love out of us is not automatic.

I was talking to a woman yesterday who called me asking for advice. She had walked in the Spirit for a few years (10 tears ago) and had left the institution because she saw what the churches have become. But she remained alone. She let herself go. So she is now wanting to get close with God again. So she is like a novice believer...but at a secondary school level.. She needs to APPLY herself in seeking God daily and collecting the dew of the morning. She needs to come back to the door and wait there for Her Master. As a servant. So she is praying about it. We can think that God's love is the same as permissiveness. But a slave of Christ is also to be a slave of righteousness. When we are not in the Lord's presence we shouldn't just become master over our own lives.

Anyway...here are a few thoughts this morning as I collect the morning dew. Righteousness springs up out of the earth...and holiness rains down from heaven

“Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness; let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together. I, the Lord, have created it. Is 45:8

Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the Lord, till he come and rain righteousness upon you. Hos 10:12

Peace.
 
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WHY would anyone want to receive from carnal men?

You should be receiving Truth from the Word of the Lord instead.




Well you are all over the map and seem to be reformed theology friendly over there
A drive-by poster such as yourself is not going to pay enough attention to something as nuanced as the truth. Maybe what I'm saying is all over the map for you...but you are holding the map upside down.