The good man that turned bad out of necessity

[RLT63]

He does well to think about them. It’s what he does after he has that’s the problem.

I guess that I'm not the one who can help him. I have questions too.
Why did God do some of things in the Bible when he is all powerful and could have made it easy?
Why does he allow the things he does?
But it is not my place to question God

 

[Matthias]

I believe people have to want to be redeemed in order for it to happen.

At this time @Mancunian doesn’t want to be redeemed.

A fact which all who follow the command of Jesus to go and make disciples have to understand and accept: not everyone wants to be redeemed and not all people will be redeemed.

For all who want to be, believing Jesus - obeying him is believing in him - is the only way to be.

 

[Matthias]

I guess that I'm not the one who can help him.

You did help him. In doing so, you’ve helped others too. Thank you.

I have questions too.

Everyone has questions.

Why did God do some of things in the Bible when he is all powerful and could have made it easy?
Why does he allow the things he does?
But it is not my place to question God

Your comment causes me to think about the Book of Job.

 

[Mancunian]

I guess that I'm not the one who can help him. I have questions too.
Why did God do some of things in the Bible when he is all powerful and could have made it easy?
Why does he allow the things he does?
But it is not my place to question God

Of course you can question God. By the sound of it you can do anything and you'll be forgiven, even murder.

That's how contradictory Christianity is... You are supposed to follow the golden rule even if your loved one's are in danger but it's somehow not a problem for murderers to be saved as long as they repent?

So in reality it doesn't matter what you do in this life as long as you are prepared to repent and accept Jesus' sacrifice.

Call me old fashioned but I would much rather live a decent life without hurting anybody and face ablivion knowing that I'm not wrong in doing so.

 

[RLT63]

Of course you can question God. By the sound of it you can do anything and you'll be forgiven, even murder.

That's how contradictory Christianity is... You are supposed to follow the golden rule even if your loved one's are in danger but it's somehow not a problem for murderers to be saved as long as they repent?

So in reality it doesn't matter what you do in this life as long as you are prepared to repent and accept Jesus' sacrifice.

Call me old fashioned but I would much rather live a decent life without hurting anybody and face ablivion knowing that I'm not wrong in doing so.

I'm not as good as @Matthias at letting wicked men harm me or my family. I was in law enforcement and if it came to them or me I was choosing me

 

[Mancunian]

I'm not as good as @Matthias at letting wicked men harm me or my family. I was in law enforcement and if it came to them or me I was choosing me

And that is totally rational.

 

[Matthias]

Of course you can question God. By the sound of it you can do anything and you'll be forgiven, even murder.

That's how contradictory Christianity is... You are supposed to follow the golden rule even if your loved one's are in danger but it's somehow not a problem for murderers to be saved as long as they repent?

So in reality it doesn't matter what you do in this life as long as you are prepared to repent and accept Jesus' sacrifice.

Call me old fashioned but I would much rather live a decent life without hurting anybody and face ablivion knowing that I'm not wrong in doing so.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

You’re going against Paul, which is going against Jesus, which is going against God. A follower of Jesus can’t do that and not repent.

It’s my responsibility to tell you that you are. What you do with it is your responsibility.

 

[Mancunian]

1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

You’re going against Paul, which is going against Jesus, which is going against God. A follower of Jesus can’t do that and not repent.

It’s my responsibility to tell you that you are. What you do with it is your responsibility.

If I'm not mistaken Jesus himself questioned God?

 

[Matthias]

If I'm not mistaken Jesus himself questioned God?

You’re greatly mistaken if you think what you’re doing is what Jesus did.

 

[RLT63]

If I'm not mistaken Jesus himself questioned God?

When he was about to be arrested he prayed that God would let this cup pass from him if possible but said Nonetheless Father, your will be done not mine

 

[Mancunian]

You’re greatly mistaken if you think what you’re doing is what Jesus did.

I'm not likening myself to Jesus, nobody is going to remember me in 2000 years time...

I'm simply saying that Jesus himself questioned God.
Paul wrote Corinthians to try and dispel unrest in early Christianity I believe?

Those letters achieved what they were meant to do.

 

[Matthias]

I'm not likening myself to Jesus, nobody is going to remember me in 2000 years time...

Jesus isn’t going to forget you after you die. You presently have an appointment with him, one thousand years after he returns. After that you will be forgotten.

I'm simply saying that Jesus himself questioned God.

Jesus never expressed any doubt about God.

Paul wrote Corinthians to try and dispel unrest in early Christianity I believe?

That’s partially correct.

Those letters achieved what they were meant to do.

If they had, Christianity wouldn’t look like it does today. He knew what was going to happen to the church after he died.

 

[RLT63]

I'm not likening myself to Jesus, nobody is going to remember me in 2000 years time...

I'm simply saying that Jesus himself questioned God.
Paul wrote Corinthians to try and dispel unrest in early Christianity I believe?

Those letters achieved what they were meant to do.

In what way do you think that Jesus questioned God?
I can't think of anywhere in the Bible that this happened

 

[Mancunian]

Jesus isn’t going to forget you after you die. You presently have an appointment with him, one thousand years after he returns. After that you will be forgotten.



Jesus never expressed any doubt about God.



That’s partially correct.



If they had, Christianity wouldn’t look like it does today. He knew what was going to happen to the church after he died.

Early Christians embraced what Paul.wrote, that was what I meant by they achieved what they were meant to (at the time.)

 

[Mancunian]

In what way do you think that Jesus questioned God?
I can't think of anywhere in the Bible that this happened

During his torture and crucifixion.

 

[RLT63]

During his torture and crucifixion.

When he said "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me ?"

 

[Mancunian]

When he said "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me ?"

Yes as documented in the gospels of Mark and Matthew.

 

[RLT63]

Yes as documented in the gospels of Mark and Matthew.

You understand that Jesus took on our sins on the cross when he said that?

 

[Mancunian]

You understand that Jesus took on our sins on the cross when he said that?

Yes I understand that. I also understand that asking someone why is questioning them.

 

[Riven]

If he's God, wouldn't the question be rhetorical?