What's this a lot of speculation and fabrication about Revelation ch. 12, when the scripture in context is clear as 'day' to those who worship GOD in spirit and truth?
8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Heaven.
9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10. And I heard a loud voice saying in Heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our GOD, and the power of HIS Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accuse them before our GOD day and night.
11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in the. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Hebrews 1:
3. ..........................................................................., when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on High;
Revelation 2:
13. I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast My name, and hast not denied My faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where satan dwelleth.
What 'dimension' you all going on about, when satan and his angels are literally on earth, the 'spirit of anti-Christ'(invisible) mentioned by the Apostles themselves??
....
Nice try, but your interpretation does not stay within the 'context' of that Rev.12:7-17 Scripture. The Power of Christ did NOT happen back when Lucifer first rebelled and drew a third of the stars (angels) to earth with him. You should have easily recognized that 'context' of Rev.12:10-11, especially its link to the 5th Seal of Revelation 6 about the end of this world.
Instead, you took the EASY WAY OUT; you just grouped all those later Rev.12:7-17 verses as being about the same time given in the summary of verses 1-4. That does not work. You left the context, and failed to rightly divide.
The Proper Order of Revelation 12:
VERSE 1: God ordained ISRAEL before the foundation of this present 2nd world earth age. John said the devil sinned from the beginning, and for this purpose was The Son of God manifest in order to destroy the works of the devil. The original rebellion happened in the 'old world', prior to Adam and Eve. This verse is Christ declaring the symbols for Israel that were shown in Genesis 37 by Joseph's dream.
VERSE 2: the symbolic woman, the Woman of Genesis that the Seed through which Christ would be born, is prepared to be delivered of her child (the Seed of the Woman in Genesis 3:15).
VERSE 3: the "
dragon", another title for Lucifer or Satan, originally rebelled using a ONE-WORLD KINGDOM ON EARTH that had ten horns, seven heads, but only
"seven crowns". That old world was a time on earth when the angels dwelt on earth; there was no flesh man. It was before God created Adam.
VERSE 4: That "
dragon" (Lucifer) drew one third of the angels ("
stars") with him at his rebellion against God, in that old world. The "
dragon" (as Satan now) stood ready in God's Garden to devour the Child of the Woman, the initial Seed that Christ would be born through, Abel being the first child of that Seed.
VERSE 5: Christ Jesus was later born, died on the cross, and was raised from the dead by The Father, and ascended to Heaven to sit on the right hand of The Father's Throne, where He still is today, expecting. At His next coming He is to rule all nations with a rod of iron per Psalms 2.
VERSE 6: the symbolic Woman, Israel, God causes to flee into the "
wilderness" for protection for 1260 days, the first part of Daniel's symbolic
"one week" of seven years per Daniel 9:27. This is especially about God's scattering of the ten lost tribes of ISRAEL to Asia Minor and Europe that formed Christ's early Church in the West.
VERSE 7: in the middle half of Daniel's symbolic
"one week" of seven years, the Antichrist ("
dragon") will come and place the
"abomination of desolation" idol at a new Jewish temple built in Jerusalem for the end. He will literally exalt himself as God, and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. He will come in plain sight upon this earth, as those on earth will see him, and wonder at him, and bow to him, except for Christ's elect who know who he will be. This will be the result of the war in Heaven between Archangel Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels.
VERSE 8: this verse reveals emphatically that when Satan and his angels lose that war in Heaven,
he with his angels will be kicked out of the HEAVENLY DIMENSION down to this earth, which means he is coming in plain sight in OUR earthly dimension. He won't be hiding behind a veil working his old tricks as before. He will be right here among us with the image of man, and will proclaim himself as God, with miracles, great signs and wonders to deceived with. This is actually what many in Christ's Church are not aware of, or reject UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
VERSE 9: this verse defines several titles that belong to Satan. He is shown cast out of Heaven with his angels to the earth with him. This is NOT about Lucifer's original fall in the 'old world'. This will happen to JUMP-START the
"great tribulation" for the end, the timing of this still being given in the MID POINT of Daniel's symbolic
"one week" when the
"abomination of desolation" is setup in Jerusalem (See Matthew 24:15; Daniel 11:31).
VERSE 10: At this point, Satan is no longer allowed in the Heavenly dimension where God and the angels dwell. At this point Satan no longer can come before God's Throne and accuse us before God, like he did against Job. The fact that Satan was able to appear before God's Throne after... he had originally fallen, and at this point is no longer allowed to appear and accuse us in Heaven, reveals Satan will LITERALLY be cast out of the Heavenly dimension down to earth in OUR earthly dimension. The whole world will see him and think God (or Messiah) has come. (See Rev.13:4-8).
VERSE 11: the overcomers, Christ's elect, will overcome Satan playing God on earth, giving a Witness for Jesus against that beast. Some brethren will be killed for it. This is what the 5th Seal of Revelation 6 is about for the end time
"great tribulation" just prior to Christ's future return. This makes it clear that this war and casting out was NOT about Lucifer's original fall.
VERSE 12: a WOE is given to those on earth when this casting out happens. Satan will have great wrath against Christ's elect. And Satan knows he has but a
"short time." That
"short time" is about the
"great tribulation" time. Christ shortened it for the sake of His elect.
VERSE 13: when Satan finds himself cast down to this earth in our near future, literally out of the Heavenly dimension into OUR earthly dimension, he will go after Christ's elect, God's true Israel involving His Church, and also after the unbelieving seed of Israel in Jerusalem. His objective will be to deceive those on earth to believe Satan is Messiah having come, which can destroy one's soul unto later condemnation in the
"lake of fire."
VERSE 14: the symbolic Woman, Christ's elect, are protected from deception throughout the
"great tribulation" that will happen starting at the MID POINT of Daniel's
"one week". Originally the amount of time was to be 1260 days, but Jesus shortened it. So here in Revelation 12 we have both 1260 day periods of Daniel's symbolic
"one week" being given, which is ONLY about the end of this world just prior to Christ's future coming to gather His Church and take reign over all nations.
VERSE 15: the waters AS a flood out of the serpent's (Satan) mouth represents LIES to cause DECEPTION. Jesus made deception the main warning for the end of this world.
VERSE 16: Christ uses this flood and the time of Noah for when Noah and his family were in the Ark and the flood waters were at their height, which was a period of 150 days per Genesis 7. After that period the waters began to recede. That 150 days of the flood being at its height represents the shortened time of
"great tribulation" by Satan, or the 42 months Satan will be given to reign on earth per Rev.13:4-8. Jesus shortened it to
"five months" per Revelation 9, and that is per the old Hebrew calendar reckoning of 30 days for a month.
VERSE 17: Satan will make 'spiritual' war against Christ's elect who keep God's commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ. The unbelievers of the seed will instead be deceived, and the hirelings in Christ's Church will mislead many of their congregations to be deceived. Only Christ's very elect will make a stand against the beast along with God's
"two witnesses".
