Is Jesus “The Angel of the Lord?”

[rwb]

But since these angels are watchers or witnesses who report to GOD, at one point in their service they couldn't resist the fair daughters of men.

That's why their offsprings were like superhumans compared to a normal carnal man on earth.

Angels of God; ALL of them have been made ministering spirits sent to minister to heirs of salvation! They do not desire to have immoral sexual relationships with beautiful women! Human beings began to multiply, giving birth to daughters. If the sons of God are fallen angels, why was God grieved seeing the wickedness of humans, whose every thought and imagination of his heart is continually evil?

Genesis 6:1 (KJV) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Genesis 6:2 (KJV) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 6:5 (KJV) And GOD saw that the wickedness of man (human beings) was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

I have to wonder if you have perhaps been influenced by the non-canonical writings from the books of Enoch?

 

[Fred J]

True born again readers,

To us, 'the sons of GOD' during Noah were the 'angels', and are 'all' ministering spirits, even scripturally depicted that these spirits travel up and down a ladder between Heaven and earth.

Man from the beginning became a 'living soul' and so on after their kind, and daughters were born of them, ones fair and unresistable.

And the angels themselves couldn't resist, so they decided to compromise, left their position in disobedience and took the daughters of men they desired.

Apparently these spirits turned flesh, had sex with the daughters of men and had offsprings out of the ordinary, that caused a lot of atrocities on earth.

Since things took place out of the ordinary from once created very good, due to disobedience and violation which resulted to chaos, surely the forbearance GOD have the right to be angry.

(Why i say spirirts turned flesh, because the 3 persons who visited Abraham were 'men', 2 were angels and one was the Lord, for they ate, drank and rested like ordinary man. At the same time scripturally, even these spirits are able to possess a man)

They are the same imprisoned 'spirits' or 'sons of GOD' who disobeyed GOD during Noah's time, whom Christ preached to. (not their offsprings perished in the flood)

Ironically by this we know that the Gospel of salvation is also for the 'fallen angels', and for those in Heaven ascended beforehand.

For the record, am not going to respond to another version to this matter which is heresy, tnank you.

 

[rwb]

True born again readers,

To us, 'the sons of GOD' during Noah were the 'angels', and are 'all' ministering spirits, even scripturally depicted that these spirits travel up and down a ladder between Heaven and earth.

Man from the beginning became a 'living soul' and so on after their kind, and daughters were born of them, ones fair and unresistable.

And the angels themselves couldn't resist, so they decided to compromise, left their position in disobedience and took the daughters of men they desired.

Apparently these spirits turned flesh, had sex with the daughters of men and had offsprings out of the ordinary, that caused a lot of atrocities on earth.

Since things took place out of the ordinary from once created very good, due to disobedience and violation which resulted to chaos, surely the forbearance GOD have the right to be angry.

(Why i say spirirts turned flesh, because the 3 persons who visited Abraham were 'men', 2 were angels and one was the Lord, for they ate, drank and rested like ordinary man. At the same time scripturally, even these spirits are able to possess a man)

They are the same imprisoned 'spirits' or 'sons of GOD' who disobeyed GOD during Noah's time, whom Christ preached to. (not their offsprings perished in the flood)

Ironically by this we know that the Gospel of salvation is also for the 'fallen angels', and for those in Heaven ascended beforehand.

For the record, am not going to respond to another version to this matter which is heresy, tnank you.

This displays a vivid imagination that ignores the FACT that angels of God are made "ministering spirits" without human form and ALWAYS do God's bidding. While sons of God are living, mortal flesh and blood bodies, who disobeyed God, as mankind has done since creation.

The spiritual realm consists of devils or demonic spirits, in the beginning likened to a "serpent" on earth. Also, the spiritual realm consists of angels who are ministering spirits sent from God to minister to heirs of salvation. Though at times angels were tasked by God to present themselves in human form to be seen by man, angels have never gone against the will of God, never pro-created with humans through marriage. Marriage and childbearing is ordained by God between human male and female. Nowhere in Scripture can it be proven that the angels of God, became like mankind, going against the will of God and becoming a mortal man.

After His resurrection, even while still clothed in human form, His disciples thought they had seen a spirit/ghost. Christ clearly tells us that "a spirit hath not flesh and bones" even though that was His appearance after He resurrected. This proves spirits can take on human form, as instructed by God, but angels of God who are ministering spirits have never taken on human flesh to sin against God as we find the "sons of God" in the days of Noah did. For this reason, "sons of God" who lusted after women of flesh and blood are not angels of God who are sent to mankind from God to minister to the heirs of salvation.

Luke 24:39 (KJV) Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

John 4:24 (KJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

True born again readers,

To us, 'the sons of GOD' during Noah were the 'angels', and are 'all' ministering spirits, even scripturally depicted that these spirits travel up and down a ladder between Heaven and earth.

Man from the beginning became a 'living soul' and so on after their kind, and daughters were born of them, ones fair and unresistable.

And the angels themselves couldn't resist, so they decided to compromise, left their position in disobedience and took the daughters of men they desired.

Apparently these spirits turned flesh, had sex with the daughters of men and had offsprings out of the ordinary, that caused a lot of atrocities on earth.

Since things took place out of the ordinary from once created very good, due to disobedience and violation which resulted to chaos, surely the forbearance GOD have the right to be angry.

(Why i say spirirts turned flesh, because the 3 persons who visited Abraham were 'men', 2 were angels and one was the Lord, for they ate, drank and rested like ordinary man. At the same time scripturally, even these spirits are able to possess a man)

They are the same imprisoned 'spirits' or 'sons of GOD' who disobeyed GOD during Noah's time, whom Christ preached to. (not their offsprings perished in the flood)

Ironically by this we know that the Gospel of salvation is also for the 'fallen angels', and for those in Heaven ascended beforehand.

For the record, am not going to respond to another version to this matter which is heresy, tnank you.

Hello, Brother Fred, how are you all? We are well, and thank you for your post, , love always, Walter

 

[TrevorHL]

Greetings Fred,

It's not like suddenly man saw the daughters of other men and decided to make for themselves wives.

I prefer the explanation that there were two separate groups, the descendants of Seth, the Sons of God and the descendants of Cain, worldly and wicked. The breakdown and intermarriage resulted in widespread wickedness and breakdown of the holiness of the descendants of Seth, except Noah and some of his influence in his family.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Fred J]

This displays a vivid imagination that ignores the FACT that angels of God are made "ministering spirits" without human form and ALWAYS do God's bidding. While sons of God are living, mortal flesh and blood bodies, who disobeyed God, as mankind has done since creation.

The spiritual realm consists of devils or demonic spirits, in the beginning likened to a "serpent" on earth. Also, the spiritual realm consists of angels who are ministering spirits sent from God to minister to heirs of salvation. Though at times angels were tasked by God to present themselves in human form to be seen by man, angels have never gone against the will of God, never pro-created with humans through marriage. Marriage and childbearing is ordained by God between human male and female. Nowhere in Scripture can it be proven that the angels of God, became like mankind, going against the will of God and becoming a mortal man.

After His resurrection, even while still clothed in human form, His disciples thought they had seen a spirit/ghost. Christ clearly tells us that "a spirit hath not flesh and bones" even though that was His appearance after He resurrected. This proves spirits can take on human form, as instructed by God, but angels of God who are ministering spirits have never taken on human flesh to sin against God as we find the "sons of God" in the days of Noah did. For this reason, "sons of God" who lusted after women of flesh and blood are not angels of God who are sent to mankind from God to minister to the heirs of salvation.

Luke 24:39 (KJV) Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

John 4:24 (KJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

The 'born again' in the spirit by the Holy Ghost happened only to man in the New Testament, and after Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament and crucifying the 'flesh'.

The man since Adam and Eve was spiritually dead in sin and not physically, for one's physical body rots on earth, and one's 'living soul' is destined for hell eternity punishment.

When GOD said that Adam would surely die, did Adam die?

No!

What did die in Adam while Adam lived?

Bodily spirit!

He became a 'living soul', when did Adam receive the bodily 'spirit'? (mind you, not the Holy Ghost)

??

In Genesis scripturally, the man became a 'living soul', you've added 'spirit' in your vain argument, and that's already a 'red flag'.

 

[rwb]

He became a 'living soul', when did Adam receive the bodily 'spirit'? (mind you, not the Holy Ghost)

??

In Genesis scripturally, the man became a 'living soul', you've added 'spirit' in your vain argument, and that's already a 'red flag'.

There is not life without spirit! It is the spirit within man that gives them physical life, and when the Spirit of God enters into man, they have spiritual life. Without spiritual life, from the fall man remains natural, of the earth, destined to die. That is why man must be born again of the Spirit, in the same way man was first created, through the Holy Spirit of God in us.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

2 Corinthians 3:6 (KJV) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Adam was made a living soul through the breath of God breathed into the dust of the ground God formed.

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Strong's Hebrew Dictionary
5397. נְשָׁמָה neshamah (nᵉshâmâh)
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נְשָׁמָה nᵉshâmâh, nesh-aw-maw' from H5395; a puff, i.e. wind, angry or vital breath, divine inspiration, intellect. or (concretely) an animal:—blast, (that) breath(-eth), inspiration, soul, spirit.

Breath of life is defined from the Greek nesh-aw-maw which is of the Holy Spirit (רוּחַ rûwach, roo'-akh). It is breath of the Spirit of God that gave both spiritual and natural life to Adam. The Spirit of the LORD breathed into Adam was INSIDE of Adam, until Adam disobeyed God. Because the Spirit of the LORD was IN him, Adam could have physically lived forever. We know this is true because God said, "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Yes, A&E did die in the day (age/space of time) they ate of the forbidden tree of knowledge of good and evil. They lost the ability that is from the Spirit within us, to live forever, alive through natural spirit.

When Adam sinned, his eyes were opened and he knew both good and evil. Knowing guilt Adam became aware of their nakedness and tried to hide from God. Why? Because the Spirit of God had departed from them, and man became natural man, guilty of sinning without the Spirit of God that could have given them immortality. Man chose death rather than to submit to God. For that reason, all of humanity is destined to die.