So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

[Grailhunter]

Your comments on monogenes also do not address the point. The lexical definitions you quoted—“only one of its kind,” “unique,” “only legitimate child”—do not mean “sexually generated,” and you still have not produced a single instance where the New Testament uses monogenes to describe sexual reproduction. Matthew explicitly denies sexual conception in Jesus’ case, and appealing to “seed” language that Scripture never uses does not change the Greek or Matthew’s narrative.

Everything in the story line proves sexual reproduction. Again and again and again... The fact that it uses words like begotten, conceived ….impregnate….delivery of a baby that is defined as the Son of Yahweh, nails it. Don't make me repeat the obvious.
And Matthew does not deny sexual conception.

 

[Moonwood]

I'm sorry. I thought you were claiming that Mary remained a virgin?

So then we are in agreement.
Mary did not remain a virgin.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

God bless

Just to keep the discussion clear: you began by quoting Matthew 1:25 and saying, “Looks pretty clear to me,” as evidence that Joseph and Mary later had sexual relations. I addressed that specific claim directly — the semantics of heos, the narrative purpose of Matthew 1:18-25, and the fact that the verse does not describe anything after the birth. You dismissed those points as “excuses to protect the perpetual virginity dogma,” even though I haven’t made any claim about whether Mary remained a virgin. My only point has been that Matthew 1:25 doesn’t settle the question either way.

If you still believe Matthew 1:25 “clearly” teaches post‑birth intercourse, you’ll need to engage the linguistic and contextual evidence I raised. So far, that part of the conversation hasn’t been answered. And since your original statement was that Matthew 1:25 “looks pretty clear,” it’s reasonable to expect an actual textual argument showing that clarity — not just an assertion of it.

 

[Grailhunter]

If you want to argue that Matthew 1:25 teaches post‑birth intercourse, you still need to show that from the text itself—Greek usage, narrative context, authorial intent. Simply asserting that the verse is “clear” or accusing me of defending a dogma doesn’t engage the linguistic or contextual evidence I presented. The meaning of heos is determined by how the term functions in Scripture and Koine Greek, not by what either of us believes about Mary’s later life.

Again and again and again and again, the scriptures are not going to go into sexual details. Yahweh produced a Son if it was not from His seed then Yeshua is not the Son of God. No scripture suggests that He was a created being. Yeshua calls Yahweh His Father over 50 times, not His creator. You are boring me now. I am going to start copying pasting or refer to previous posts.

 

[Armour of God]

Just to keep the discussion clear: you began by quoting Matthew 1:25 and saying, “Looks pretty clear to me,” as evidence that Joseph and Mary later had sexual relations. I addressed that specific claim directly — the semantics of heos, the narrative purpose of Matthew 1:18-25, and the fact that the verse does not describe anything after the birth. You dismissed those points as “excuses to protect the perpetual virginity dogma,” even though I haven’t made any claim about whether Mary remained a virgin. My only point has been that Matthew 1:25 doesn’t settle the question either way.

If you still believe Matthew 1:25 “clearly” teaches post‑birth intercourse, you’ll need to engage the linguistic and contextual evidence I raised. So far, that part of the conversation hasn’t been answered. And since your original statement was that Matthew 1:25 “looks pretty clear,” it’s reasonable to expect an actual textual argument showing that clarity — not just an assertion of it.

Your a confusing person to have a conversation with.

It seems that you don't believe that Matthew 1:25 is saying that that Mary and Joseph slept with eachother.

I believe it does.

But Joseph did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And he named him Jesus. - Matthew 1:25 ERV

Do you believe Mary remained a virgin her whole life?