The Book of Remembrance

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Speaking about logic :

If grace through faith
was only for Paul and friends then it is also not for you.
Grace is for those whom GOD decides to give it. If someone gets the same grace as Paul or His friends had....then so be it.

The problem we face in the modern church context is the namers and claimers who are indoctrinated into thinking they have something they don't have. Literally claiming to have something they will say they don't have.

Fake it till you make it may work in human affairs. But God HATES a false witness.
 

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For those who want to remain honest.... my threads are meant to be understood in the context of the WHOLE counsel of God.

If we look at the bible as a whole we discover that Jesus is never mentioned by name in the OT. Does that mean He is not there? Of course not. I see Jesus everywhere in the OT...just not by the name "Jesus". Those who say, dishonestly, that my teaching is not in the bible are no different than those who say that Jesus can't be the Messiah because He's not in the bible until He appears in the NT.

Take that same open minded discernment to SEE that Jesus is all over the OT...and now look at what I'm presenting from that perspective....clarifying the verses to show the depth and meaning of things that are not readily understood.

THEN, a person can remain honest...without saying one thing and doing another. Without hypocrisy.

I know that people don't know the bible very well...but teaching forces people to look at the bible in a way they never saw. Be Bereans not Pharisees...and you will get it.
 

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And so you are not (can not be) sure God has given you grace?

You are full of surprises.
I know more than anybody that God has given me grace. But I also know the deep judgments of God that most will only know on judgment day. That's what qualifies me to warn others. I'm like a spy or a watchman that cries out when God's people are in danger. Only the wise will listen.
 

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I know more than anybody that God has given me grace. But I also know the deep judgments of God that most will only know on judgment day. That's what qualifies me to warn others. I'm like a spy or a watchman that cries out when God's people are in danger. Only the wise will listen.

Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

So by grace Paul and friends and YOU have been saved through faith, the rest of us not.

Do you realize what you claim here and in other posts, a prophet sent by God speaking with full authority in His name.

In his first letter to the church of Corinth Paul twice said to the congregation : you are bought with a price.

Also only for Paul and friends?

And you of course.
 
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Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

So by grace Paul and friends and YOU have been saved through faith, the rest of us not.

Do you realize what you claim here and in other posts, a prophet sent by God speaking with full authority in His name.

In his first letter to the church of Corinth Paul twice said to the congregation : you are bought with a price.

Also only for Paul and friends?

And you of course.
We are ALL bought with a price. Jesus purchased back the WORLD (and the church) with His own blood. That is NOT exclusive to believers.

Jesus paid for those who obey Him whether they know Him or not.

Being saved now is about being translated into heaven to walk where Jesus is, like Paul and his friends and yes, like I did. I have a testimony of Christ.

Inheriting life is based on MERCY for the righteous. You won't understand this verse but it shows both MERCY and TRUTH....for the righteous (Abraham) and for the saints (Jacob)

"Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old" Mic. 7:20
 

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I found the cult that @Amigodecristo is in...the exclusive brethren is a cult led by a man called Bruce Hale. They are called the Plymouth Brethren exclusive brethren. If you are not part of them then you are a inclusivarian in their view.
 

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I found the cult that @Amigodecristo is in...the exclusive brethren is a cult led by a man called Bruce Hale. They are called the Plymouth Brethren exclusive brethren. If you are not part of them then you are a inclusivarian in their view.
what a nimrod . I have never even heard of that man . Yet again false accusations f rom epi .
Epi who preaches a false gospel of inclusion .
 
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Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

So by grace Paul and friends and YOU have been saved through faith, the rest of us not.

Do you realize what you claim here and in other posts, a prophet sent by God speaking with full authority in His name.

In his first letter to the church of Corinth Paul twice said to the congregation : you are bought with a price.

Also only for Paul and friends?

And you of course.
so sorry to have to let you know this but epi preaches totally contrary to the gospel of christ which paul taught and all
apostels taught . so i would not put him in the camp of paul and etc . On the day of JESUS
many will wail pro deo . Many . To dishonor the Son is deadly . To call GOD a liar is deadly .
And he who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON does just that . So teaching
a false inclusive one is gonna have a heavy price for those who did so ON JESUS day .
 
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Book of remembrance - isn't that the Lord "remembering" His faithful OT saints, to include them in the book of life and new covenant once it was ordained with the coming of the Messiah, His death and resurrection? "that they without us would not be made perfect."


Mal 3:16-17

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
The Book is not limited to OT saints. It's for us all. I have used the verse as my sig for many years. To me, it means encouraging, correcting and fellowshipping with one another.. It is a very different book than the book of life and will be opened at the judgement seat of Christ when he judges his people. I don't think it will be opened at the great white throne but before that.
 
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The Book is not limited to OT saints. It's for us all. I have used the verse as my sig for many years. To me, it means encouraging, correcting and fellowshipping with one another.. It is a very different book than the book of life and will be opened at the judgement seat of Christ when he judges his people. I don't think it will be opened at the great white throne but before that.
It was written to the Jew first. But as a parable for the church, the book of remembrance is an allegory for the book of life, It is not what Epi is saying it is.
 
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It was written to the Jew first. But as a parable for the church, the book of remembrance is an allegory for the book of life, It is not what Epi is saying it is.
that is because EPI has opened and bowed down to another book . k nown as inclusivism .
And from within its mindset is HOW he now reads the Scrips . DOING So , of course unto his own destruction .
Frankly it wont matter what good things a man may have taught , WHEN DONE SO
under the guise of inclusivity, WHICH HAS DENIED the GOSPEL OF THE ONE TRUE GOD and HIS SON ,
it was all in Vain . For to call GOD a liar , well their works will not save them .
For that work cometh ONLY of the darkness that has masquered as though light ,
THUS INDEED great IS the darkness . For if the light that is in one be darkness , and no marvel
for even satan can appear as an angel of Light , THEN GREAT is THAT DARKNESS .
 

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It was written to the Jew first. But as a parable for the church, the book of remembrance is an allegory for the book of life, It is not what Epi is saying it is.
Always remember what is the one thing the serpent has always planted since even the garden .
UNBELIEF in what GOD said . Nay nay SURELY ye SHALL NOT die . TO cause UNBELIEF in what GOD has said
and thus to lead into captivity , into death and only greater darkness . That is its mission .
And thus no marvel if it can recreate another gospel , ONE that omits the DIRE NEED TO EVEN HAD to have beleived on JESUS .
Now which one YA THINK the sheep are gonna heed .
JESUS, GOD , HIS GOSPEL , or this other gospel . Exactly .
YOU see IF JESUS SAID IT , OH BELIEVE ME IT CAME OF GOD .
IF GOD said it , THEN OH YEAH ITS TRUE .
And it was said by THIS JESUS , YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS for if you BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE
THEN YE SHALL DIE in your sins .
And how often this same JESUS had warned those who had failed to REPENT TO BELEIVE ON HIM
of an upmost destruction , worse than e ver it was for even sodom , TO COME UPON THEM On the day
of judgment . And we can all read the warnings of even the apostels in acts
AS well as in their letters .
So epi shall receive no god speed messages from me . NO fellowhship and lets just get along , FROM ME .
For if even I DID or an angel did or any other preaches any other gospel , any other jesus , any other spirit
CAST US OUT and NEVER LOOK back . THE WORDS OF GOD stand TRUE and are the TRUTH
and the sheep shall feast upon them and beleive them . Cursed is the man whose hope and t rust is in man .
Who makes flesh his arm .
Blessed is the man whose hope and trust be IN GOD and thus it would have BEEN IN HIS CHRIST .
 

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And these are the traits that will follow them... denial, obfuscation, dishonesty, accusations, slanders, misappropriations, unbelief, arrogance, ignorance, vanity, self-interest, self-righteousness, haughtiness, mocking, twisting, delusion, confusion, hyperbole, exaggeration, and pride.
 

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It was written to the Jew first. But as a parable for the church, the book of remembrance is an allegory for the book of life, It is not what Epi is saying it is.
Yeah Lizbeth!
You keep tellin' yerself that! :jest:
"spirit of antichrist" loves it!!
Every/ANY thing recorded in scripture er prophecy you or anyone doesn't understand?
"It's "JUST AN ALLEGORY!"
Which twists into something more "pertinant" fitting into one's er ones' "indoctrination!"
(can you say "peer pressure of misguiding love?") :contemplate:
 
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Yeah Lizbeth!
You keep tellin' yerself that! :jest:
"spirit of antichrist" loves it!!
Every/ANY thing recorded in scripture er prophecy you or anyone doesn't understand?
"It's "JUST AN ALLEGORY!"
Which twists into something more "pertinant" fitting into one's er ones' "indoctrination!"
(can you say "peer pressure of misguiding love?") :contemplate:

Names written in the book of remembrancer were those the Lord was going to SAVE, ie, grant eternal life to, out of Israel.....but they would not be made "perfect" before the church and the coming and crucifixion of Christ when He descended and preached the gospel to them.....many of them were resurrected when He was. The Lord was not writing down the names of those who were slated to be cast into outer darkness.
 

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Names written in the book of remembrancer were those the Lord was going to SAVE, ie, grant eternal life to, out of Israel.....but they would not be made "perfect" before the church and the coming and crucifixion of Christ when He descended and preached the gospel to them.....many of them were resurrected when He was. The Lord was not writing down the names of those who were slated to be cast into outer darkness.
Explain where you are getting this from. You are just patching together some scriptural concepts and making a doctrine they don't support.
 
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Names written in the book of remembrancer were those the Lord was going to SAVE, ie, grant eternal life to, out of Israel.....but they would not be made "perfect" before the church and the coming and crucifixion of Christ when He descended and preached the gospel to them.....many of them were resurrected when He was. The Lord was not writing down the names of those who were slated to be cast into outer darkness.
Utter confusion and web spinning.