Collapse of the twin towers in 2001. An engineering perspective

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Jay Ross

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Another :My2c: worth to ponder.

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My experience with designing Zinc galvanising pots is that the interface temperature of the steel/zinc boundary has to be kept below 420°C otherwise the Zinc will dissolve the steel shell of the galvanising pot very quickly, even just overnight for a 50 mm thick steel pot.

The Phase diagram for Aluminum/Iron is very similar to that of the Zinc/Iron Phase diagram which tells me that any liquid Aluminium alloy in contact with the steel in the twin towers will dissolve the steel at temperatures around 500°C.

This is another fact that should be considered in the collapse twin Towers.
 

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Molten metal found in the 9/11 wreckage is proof of explosives

The vid shows direct evidence of thermite, molten steel in the basement if the buildings + white smoke fires burning 8 weeks later. Yet those indoctrinated by government propaganda don’t have eyes to see or ears to hear.
 

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Jay, no poster is as consistently wrong as you are. Car crashes are investigated and by law in many States, one driver is issued a citation for driving in a way that caused the accident. The other driver existing, acting within their rights to be there, etc, is NOT a cause for the crash.

For instance, in my last accident, I was driving in the left hand lane with a driver in the middle lane, in an attempt to avoid congestion to an on ramp to another highway changed into my lane hitting me. She received the citation.



You don't need to understand. Would a timeline of events help you understand how America deserved 911 and help you understand the physics involved? @Armour of God has made many posts and provided many vids. Yet, you're still posting a balanced account mindset via post # 167. HINT: The truth is biased.
...America deserved 9/11..." ?
No statement in this thread has reached that level of evil. What a wicked thing to say.

Almost 3000 lives "deserved" 9/11 ?

Wow.
 
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The vid shows direct evidence of thermite, molten steel in the basement if the buildings + white smoke fires burning 8 weeks later. Yet those indoctrinated by government propaganda don’t have eyes to see or ears to hear.

Yea the evidence of molten steel and thermite is something that they can't just explain away. It's proof of demo charges

 

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This is because you have lost the argument of the cause of the collapse of the Twin Towers. You resort to personal attack. Proverbs 9:8. don’t bother correcting mockers; they will only hate you.
No.
It is not because of anything other than your arguments are laughable.
But you can believe anything you want if it makes you feel better about yourself.
 

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This is because you have lost the argument of the cause of the collapse of the Twin Towers. You resort to personal attack. Proverbs 9:8. don’t bother correcting mockers; they will only hate you.

It's because he cannot explain how molten metal and thermite was found in the wreckage. That's why he resorts to personal attacks
 

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One of the later videos I posted explained how many explosives would have had to be put into each column of the building. It was a lot. Also that the explosives have to be drilled into the columns and this takes a long, long time to accomplish. Sorry I forgot how long.

Remember when the Islamic terrorists tried to bring down the World Trade Center the first time? They used a van. It could be possible they also parked a couple of vans in the garage to go off as the planes hit. But I still think it's impossible that the Islamists rigged the entire buildings to explode.
 

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By the time you all finish arguing about what happened to the twin towers in NY, you will have already started arguing about whether a Mosque and a call to morning prayer ringing through the city is how you envisioned NYC to sound like.

I'm saying, Never Forget, but don't forget to keep your eyes forward as well.

The world is changing under our feet.
Stay vigilant.

There is that spirit of division and it is working overtime friends.
Keep the Faith
Keep His Commandments

Hugs
 

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By the time you all finish arguing about what happened to the twin towers in NY, you will have already started arguing about whether a Mosque and a call to morning prayer ringing through the city is how you envisioned NYC to sound like.

I'm saying, Never Forget, but don't forget to keep your eyes forward as well.

The world is changing under our feet.
Stay vigilant.

There is that spirit of division and it is working overtime friends.
Keep the Faith
Keep His Commandments

Hugs
Nate Friedman does good investigative reporting and also researches. The videos are very interesting. Just two of his videos on Islamic takeovers.


 

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One of the later videos I posted explained how many explosives would have had to be put into each column of the building. It was a lot. Also that the explosives have to be drilled into the columns and this takes a long, long time to accomplish.

Yup. It took years to develop the atomic bomb also. That also was done in secret, right?

Remember when the Islamic terrorists tried to bring down the World Trade Center the first time? They used a van. It could be possible they also parked a couple of vans in the garage to go off as the planes hit.

Yes, I remember that. 1993. The blind sheik.

On 911, I was actually in Japan returning to my hotel room after a late night with my customers. When I got my friend's email, I thought immediately that it was like the 1993 van attack.

But I still think it's impossible that the Islamists rigged the entire buildings to explode.

@Debp, you are confusing literally impossible with improbable or hard to believe. Remember the maxim?

There's a maxim that when you eliminate what is impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable must be the case.

Given the physical impossibility of steel buildings to collapse without internal demolition the way the World Trade Center buildings did, there are few other possible explanations - no matter how implausible. I'm not saying it's hard to believe so many people could be involved, not be noticed and not talk about it. I'm saying that political challenge does not alter the laws of physics from an engineering perspective.

Once you consider all the other mischief the Deep State has been found to cause, 911 being an inside job is not that hard to believe - especially in light of the engineering analysis.

Yes, the natural consequence once one accepts the engineering analysis. :( IMO, this is the #1 reason people believe the official narrative; the implications of rejecting it are too terrible to contemplate. And the power of propaganda to indoctrinate the masses is seen over and over again:
  1. WWI: Lusitiana, precipitating war (though filled with explosives for one side of the conflict).
  2. WWII: Pearl Harbor was not unprovoked. (America did everything to provoke the Empire of Japan.)
  3. Red Scare
  4. Tonkin Incident precipitating Vietnam War
  5. Global Cooling
  6. Ozone thinning
  7. DDT prohibition lead to millions of deaths from malaria
  8. Global Warming
  9. Technology being threat to Deep State —> implementing IP address protocols + other tracking schemes.
  10. Persian Gulf War. Iraqi soldiers supposedly microwaving Kuwaiti babies as testified by lying Kuwaiti activist.
  11. Y2K
  12. COVID
And so many others. See attached Homer Simpson list.
 

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@Debp, you are confusing literally impossible with improbable or hard to believe. Remember the maxim?

She has a heavy case of confirmation bias. Has no problem watching videos that support her belief but won't dare watch anything that opposes her belief. Just refuses to listen to the other side of the debate. She wouldn't make a very good judge, only listens to one side and then warns me about using personal attacks when I never did. Pfft whatever.

Aside from that none of them can explain why molten metal or thermite was found at the wreckage or why no building has ever collapsed the same way without demo charges.

Without being able to explain these important facts their arguments are just garbage.
 
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A layman question, if explosives were used, there must have been remains (evidence) left in the ruins.

True or false ?
 

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A layman question, if explosives were used, there must have been remains (evidence) left in the ruins.

True or false ?

True. Explosives used in demolitions include thermite, that burns hot enough to melt steel.

molten metal and thermite was found in the wreckage.

Why else were these 2 things found in the rubble?
 

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So, if explosives were used there must have been numerous witnesses who heard the sound ?
Moving the Goal post. Ever seen thermite in use? Not explosive but like a quickly burning candle.

Your reasoning is to ignore the direct evidence (presence of thermite and melted steel) and base everything on what people heard or didn’t hear. Odd.
 
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