The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

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i suppose you can see by now why so many have zero love for ol amigo .
cause LIGHT always exposes darkness and all that is within the darkness .
The world cannot hate you but me it hates for i testify that its works are EVIL .
Jesus told that to his own half brothers .
Later he would tell the true apostels , IF THE WORLD hates you , KNOW that it hated me first .
THE WORLD hates you cause i have called you OUT OF THE WORLD .
and the world will love its own . JESUS really does have the sheep david .
AND THANK GOD HE D OES cause we would be a total mess without HIM to lead and to guide us
and to correct us too . THIS g eneration is not going to make it david .
AND i know the world is lost , i spoke of many even in christendom david .
WE must speak ONLY the truth . Praying that some will hear and repent . but many will only
grow more rebellions against TRUTH and all who are OF THE TRUTH and thus did speak and live the truth
BY THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH , whose faith was in JESUS THE CHRIST OF GOD .
oh, you're not the only one hated, despised and mocked for the Word of Truth that we speak........
 
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oh, you're not the only one hated, despised and mocked for the Word of Truth that we speak........
and let all sheep who are hated and persecuted for Jesus sake simply rejoice to be counted worthy to suffer shame
for His Name . Now to the trenches my friend . For the hour is later than when i last typed to you .
And its only ge tting lat er . Forward march with heels planted and toes pointed . No fear of man
or what he can do to us . THE LORD GOD ALLMIGHTY is our helper and we shall not fear what man can do to us .
As well written in hebrews . That we may BODLY SAY the LORD is our helper and we shall NOT FEAR what man can do to us .
 

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oh, you're not the only one hated, despised and mocked for the Word of Truth that we speak........
they believe it is the time of a harlots love and of her anti christ let us be one interfaith plan .
And what so few can see and what so little even knows
Is the delusion has been here and g rows by the hour and the day .
And they rush as troops to an ecumeincal harlots cry and enter into her love , her all inclusive love .
All hail her god of love they cry and the muslim joins hands with the christian , and with all religoins .
YE SHALL HAVE PEACE and SAFETY she cries to the kings of this world and unto the false religoins
as well as to christendom .
But they who enter into her chambers know not
they just made a covenant with satan and that which is of anti christ
and it will not be peace n safety they attain . It was a lying spirit
sent f orth to gather all the false religoins that reject JESUS
and unto all the decieved within christendom who at most followed a jesus created of men that had pleased their flesh .
And now a word .
THIS DELSUSION has ONE LIE they bleieve more and more . THAT WE ALL serve the same GOD , aka that made f aith in JESUS
NOT NECESSARY , and that this is Gods plan for peace and we must all join hands and find common ground .
What a delusion and great one it is . But they know not
it is peace of anti christ nor that it does not lead them to peace n safety
BUT ONLY unto their own sudden destruction ON THE GREAT AND MIGHTY DAY OF THE LORD
who their love and peace plan DENIED . for when they shall say PEACE n safety , SUDDEN DESRUCtion rains down
upon them all and they absolutely WILL NOT escape . A Lying spirit has been sent forth
and the prophets of christendom now cry
and the prophets of the imams now cry
and of the jews now cry
and of the other false religons now cry
COME AND LET US ALL be one , we serve the same GOD they say , let us find common ground for world peace n safety
they say . BUT IT BE THEIR END ON JESUS DAY . mi ght wanna read some bible..
King ahab too fell for a lie that was given unto his prophets to prophesy such a lie to him as well .
OH but it was a lying spirit sent to decieve him into BELEIVING HE would have the victory
and even when micah warnend him , HE DID NOT HEED
and even when i warn them THEY DO NOT HEED . THERE WILL BE NO PEACE N SAFETY FOR THEM , ON JESUS DAY .
 

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Daniel 9:27 describes a future period where a powerful figure (the “he“ in the verse above) establishes a covenant with many people for one final seven-year period (This week, I believe, has been shortened for the sake of the Elect). To continue, halfway through this week, this figure (which will be Satan the AC) will stop the traditional sacrifices and pollute the holy place with "abominations," leaving it desolate until the final judgment when God's wrath is poured out at the end (the 7th trump).
Hi Sel@h,

Welcome to the forum.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

In the earlier verses of Daniel 9, Daniel is confessing to God how his people broke the Mt. Sinai covenant and ended up in the Babylonian captivity.

So "the" covenant is the the Mt. Sinai covenant. The Jews of Judaism still go by that covenant.

In Deuteronomy 31:9-13, Moses made a requirement that the leaders of Israel confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant on a 7 year cycle. The confirmation process is that a big speech be given to the people of Israel that God gave them the land of Israel as theirs forever.

The Antichrist, who the Jews will mistakenly think is their long awaited King of Israel messiah, will in that role make the big speech and the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 will then begin.

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It's not making sense.

"3.5 years of Jesus' personal ministry plus 3.5 years of ministry exclusively to the Jews....after that to the Gentiles."
I tried to see a week in this...but couldn't. It's not clear what you mean.
When did it start and when did it end?
Some background first.....
Daniel had been reading in the Prophet Jeremiah that the captivity the Hebrews were experiencing in Babylon would last 70 years, This period of time was nearing its close so Daniel was praying in relation to this. An angel was sent to Daniel in response to his prayer. The angel Gabriel then gives him a 70 week prophecy. It is in code, a day representing 1 year in real time thus
70 x 7 = 490 years

The beginning of this period is given in Dan.9:25.... 'from the going forth of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem...'
That command was given by Cyrus the Persian King in 457 BC

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oh, you're not the only one hated, despised and mocked for the Word of Truth that we speak........
In a sense I think many Christians love to be hated. It gives them justification in their own minds that the mixed up cobbling of scripture they insist on is correct.....in fact, anyone with a flawed opinion will pull the persecution card. It flatters their ego.
 

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In a sense I think many Christians love to be hated. It gives them justification in their own minds that the mixed up cobbling of scripture they insist on is correct.....in fact, anyone with a flawed opinion will pull the persecution card. It flatters their ego.
Actually , it is very disturbing to my soul and only by the Grace of GOD i continue, knowing that a Day is Coming by which my tears will be wiped away.
 
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Actually , it is very disturbing to my soul and only by the Grace of GOD i continue, knowing that a Day is Coming by which my tears will be wiped away.
There is a huge difference between having a hope based on God's activity in Jesus, the other on one's ego which justifies or refuses to consider their paradigm could be faulty.
The first has a quiet assurance and a gentle spirit, the second a justifying, self-focused, persecution card pulling and or a repetitive many word explanation approach.
 

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There is a huge difference between having a hope based on God's activity in Jesus, the other on one's ego which justifies or refuses to consider their paradigm could be faulty.
The first has a quiet assurance and a gentle spirit, the second a justifying, self-focused, persecution card pulling and or a repetitive many word explanation approach.
Well, i certainly do not have the self-persecution card

But i do have the love of Christ in my heart for His Truth and the Body of Christ.
 
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3.5 years of Jesus' personal ministry plus 3.5 years of ministry exclusively to the Jews....after that to the Gentiles.
In the midst of that week (7 years) Jesus was crucified (cut off)
'in the midst of the week he shall be cut off'. Dan. 9.27
Amen! You have spoken the truth.
You have agreed and have also shown the 1260 days of our Lord's ministry of Him in the likeness of our mortal flesh, and then in the latter half of that 70th week, He ministered to the early church by His Holy Spirit.

Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses [the joint ministry of John the Baptist- 6 mos. and Jesus- 3.0 yrs.], and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore [1260] days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 12:6
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore [1260] days.
(During the joint ministry of John and Jesus, John was "the voice of one crying in the wilderness", and Jesus, with his disciples at night, slept in the wilderness of Mt. Olive, and were fed by the words of the Lord of Truth.)
 
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Amen! You have spoken the truth.
You have agreed and have also shown the 1260 days of our Lord's ministry of Him in the likeness of our mortal flesh, and then in the latter half of that 70th week, He ministered to the early church by His Holy Spirit.
The first 3.5 years was Christ fulfilling His Gospel

The last 3.5 years is the Antichrist

In between Christ and the Antichrist is the Gospel to the Nations, which continues to the End.

The Jews were judged by Christ in Matthew chapter 21 to 23.
Matthew chapter 24 is the warning of Deception and persecution upon His Church along with the Prophesied duration of the Gospel to the nations.
Finalized by the repeated prophecy of Daniel/coming of the AoD and Christ's Prophecy of His Second Coming
 

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Some background first.....
Daniel had been reading in the Prophet Jeremiah that the captivity the Hebrews were experiencing in Babylon would last 70 years, This period of time was nearing its close so Daniel was praying in relation to this. An angel was sent to Daniel in response to his prayer. The angel Gabriel then gives him a 70 week prophecy. It is in code, a day representing 1 year in real time thus
70 x 7 = 490 years

The beginning of this period is given in Dan.9:25.... 'from the going forth of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem...'
That command was given by Cyrus the Persian King in 457 BC

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I don't think the time period you presented reflects the 70th week.
The 70th week with the time of trouble never seen before and will not be seen again doesn't fit.
 

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I don't think the time period you presented reflects the 70th week.
The 70th week with the time of trouble never seen before and will not be seen again doesn't fit.
You don't understand it because you have mixed up events....and confused various Prophecies but not realising it.
Consider the context and Daniels curious prayer....along with the answer given...
Consider the Hebrew longing and expectation of a deliverer.
Consider the Men from the East (from pagan lands) who searching the scriptures were able to know with certainty of the arrival of a Saviour.
Consider Israel who had all the information at their disposal missed the very same event.....yet Anna and Simeon were onto it.
 
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they believe it is the time of a harlots love and of her anti christ let us be one interfaith plan .
And what so few can see and what so little even knows
Is the delusion has been here and g rows by the hour and the day .
And they rush as troops to an ecumeincal harlots cry and enter into her love , her all inclusive love .
All hail her god of love they cry and the muslim joins hands with the christian , and with all religoins .
YE SHALL HAVE PEACE and SAFETY she cries to the kings of this world and unto the false religoins
as well as to christendom .
But they who enter into her chambers know not
they just made a covenant with satan and that which is of anti christ
and it will not be peace n safety they attain . It was a lying spirit
sent f orth to gather all the false religoins that reject JESUS
and unto all the decieved within christendom who at most followed a jesus created of men that had pleased their flesh .
And now a word .
THIS DELSUSION has ONE LIE they bleieve more and more . THAT WE ALL serve the same GOD , aka that made f aith in JESUS
NOT NECESSARY , and that this is Gods plan for peace and we must all join hands and find common ground .
What a delusion and great one it is . But they know not
it is peace of anti christ nor that it does not lead them to peace n safety
BUT ONLY unto their own sudden destruction ON THE GREAT AND MIGHTY DAY OF THE LORD
who their love and peace plan DENIED . for when they shall say PEACE n safety , SUDDEN DESRUCtion rains down
upon them all and they absolutely WILL NOT escape . A Lying spirit has been sent forth
and the prophets of christendom now cry
and the prophets of the imams now cry
and of the jews now cry
and of the other false religons now cry
COME AND LET US ALL be one , we serve the same GOD they say , let us find common ground for world peace n safety
they say . BUT IT BE THEIR END ON JESUS DAY . mi ght wanna read some bible..
King ahab too fell for a lie that was given unto his prophets to prophesy such a lie to him as well .
OH but it was a lying spirit sent to decieve him into BELEIVING HE would have the victory
and even when micah warnend him , HE DID NOT HEED
and even when i warn them THEY DO NOT HEED . THERE WILL BE NO PEACE N SAFETY FOR THEM , ON JESUS DAY .
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Actually , it is very disturbing to my soul and only by the Grace of GOD i continue, knowing that a Day is Coming by which my tears will be wiped away.
blessed are you when men shall speak evil of you for so did they unto the prophets .
Not only is it given unto us to BELEIVE ON HIM but also to suffer for his sake .
Do not let them fool you with speeches such as some christains love to be hated .
Rather examine their fruits and ye will see many seem to love that which God calleth evil
and to hate on those who bring his words that does expose the evil they do so love .
They got more definitions these days for what they accuse us of doing and why they do and beleive as they do .
Wanna know what i notice in all them words , say like homophobe or zenophobe
or persecution syndrom or whatever else they say .
NO DOCTRINE . only a means to try and silence the mouths of those who do expose what it is they do love
and that be sin and unbeleif .
IF a man warns against sin , Its hater .
IF a man comes and even reminds athiests and etc of their dire need to repent and beleive on JESUS , its religous extremism
IF a man comes and warns against the sin of homosexuality , ITS homophobe
and that list just goes on and on and on . And they cast out the WORDS of GOD that does expose
the darkness they love , as they do his own people who bring such words unto them .
THAT my friend , IS WHAT I NOTICE .
 
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Well, i certainly do not have the self-persecution card

But i do have the love of Christ in my heart for His Truth and the Body of Christ.
We do have such love my friend .
And wanna notice what i notice about many we do b ring this love that does correct them .
THE WORD HATER .
And now a word , for my love i am hated . You ever heard that expression . ITS IN the bible .
I am for peace but when i speak they are for WAR .
Or how about what paul once wrote
WHO I KNOW rebuked and corrected sins and warned others to do the same , wrote .
THOUGH THE MORE ABUNDANTELY I LOVE YOU , the LESS I BE LOVED .
or
HAVE i become your ENEMY because i TELL you THE TRUTH .
OH yeah david there is nothing new under that ol sun .
Wanna know what i notice . we are living in the most educated
ever learning generation of christendom .
THE ONLY problem is they ever learning but UNABLE to come to ..........................THE TRUTH .
no sir , they rather , through this much high learning , now cast OUT the TRUTH and those who do bring THE TRUTH .
Ever learning but unable to come to the Truth .
 

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I don't think the time period you presented reflects the 70th week.
The 70th week with the time of trouble never seen before and will not be seen again doesn't fit.
The 70th week is not the "time of trouble" but it is at the end of Daniel's Prophecy contained within.
 
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The 70th week is not the "time of trouble" but it is at the end of Daniel's Prophecy contained within.
verily verily i do say unto thee
there is another spirit and spirits at work that have come to decieve even all within christanity .
And it has brought a love of a harlot and a peace of anti christ that it do claim and it will say
IS of GOD . its a merger all right and though it cries unity and let us find common ground
at its end will leave them in stitches and ditches and all running and all hiding
but unable to escape the very WRATH oF GOD and of the Lamb , who by its love and its peace MADE VOID .
 

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verily verily i do say unto thee
there is another spirit and spirits at work that have come to decieve even all within christanity .
And it has brought a love of a harlot and a peace of anti christ that it do claim and it will say
IS of GOD . its a merger all right and though it cries unity and let us find common ground
at its end will leave them in stitches and ditches and all running and all hiding
but unable to escape the very WRATH oF GOD and of the Lamb , who by its love and its peace MADE VOID .
And that, my brother, is why we are approaching the Great Tribulation.

"And the people spoke as one for they had one language to build a Tower to Heaven"
 
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The 70th week is not the "time of trouble" but it is at the end of Daniel's Prophecy contained within.
Is there anything done on earth even in the darkness
that GOD cannot see .
Then know and understand every idle word even spoken in secrete
WILL BE REVEALED on JESUS DAY .
Not only does GOD KNOW what is going on within even the hearts of all men
FRIEND HE HAS LONG KNOWN and there is nothing hidden f rom Him .
And all who made their bed with a harlot will have no excuse on JESUS DAY .
For when HE called , when he sent his own into such places
and had warned them all to get out of such places and to return to the HOLY BOOK
for to learn for themselves , THEY CHOSE and willfully remained ignorant and cast out HIS words
and those who brought them in favor of a harlots lie .
David , hard as it is for this inclusive generation to realize , OH there will be much WAILING
on JESUS day heard from them all , And it will be TOO LATE for them all .
YOU cant REJECT JESUS and expect a GOOD ENDING and a pat on the back and a job well done .
What you can expect is , DEPART FROM ME you workers of inquity , I NEVER KNEW YOU .
As while the violin of that song sounds so hateful , so grave and so wrong to this inclusive generation
That song was TRUE friend . One simply cannot DENY JESUS without having THUS DENIED GOD
and one cannot DENY HIS WORDS without having DENIED HIM .
IF TRUTH IS DENIED , THEN THE AUTHOR OF IT HAS BEEN , AND I DO MEAN HAS BEEN DENIED . just a simple fact .
AND if anyone here amongst us thinks i am dead wrong for writing this
THEN BY ALL MEANS bring many scriptures to try and explain . Only as i beleive you already know ,
THE SCRIPS gonna say the same .