Does The Resurrection Take Place On The Last Day, With All Dead In The Grave Coming Forth?

[JimKnox]

Your response is nothing more than your "Opinion" and it's not found in Revelation 20:1-6

Aaaannnnnd YOUR opinion is not there.

 

[JimKnox]

My Savior Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement (The End)

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Betcha 5 schillings I can post 3 for every 1 of your proof texts!!!
But I am not going to because you don't listen.
Pffffft!

 

[JimKnox]

How can a thousand years be one thousand years of time since John sees those who have been martyred for their faith who "have lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (past tense), and John also writes that those who are blessed and holy who have part in the first resurrection who shall reign (present & future tense) with him a thousand years?

If a thousand years equates to one thousand physical years of time how can the martyred saints, and the blessed and holy who are not among the martyred saints both reign with Him for one thousand years?

We find Satan bound for a thousand years, as well as martyred souls who already lived and reigned with Christ, being faithful in time (a thousand symbolic years) unto death. But others called blessed and holy, having part in the first resurrection and overcome the second death are not with the martyred souls, but they will also be priests of God and of Christ and reign with Him during this same symbolic time (symbolized a thousand years).

How can this equate to one thousand years of time?

The only way to make sense of a/the thousand years is if we understand it does not pertain to ONE thousand physical years but symbolically pertains to TIME that began with the binding of Satan through the cross and resurrection of Christ, and the Gospel of the Kingdom of God being preached unto all the nations of the world. During this time that began with Christ coming to earth with the Kingdom of God and will not end until the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound that THIS symbolic time shall be no longer. The martyred souls John sees were born again upon first hearing the Gospel of the Kingdom of God preached at the beginning of this time symbolized a/the thousand years, and they remained strong and faithful unto death. During this same symbolic time all who are blessed and holy, but not part of the martyred souls, will hear the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ preached, and according to grace through faith they will believe in Christ and be born again of His Spirit.

When this symbolic time for proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ has fulfilled its mission of building the Kingdom of God in heaven as the churches preach Christ, the mystery of God shall be finished. The Kingdom of God in heaven being complete at the end of this symbolic time (a/the thousand years) Satan will be set free for a "little season". Just long enough for him to gather together from the four corners of the earth all who remain in darkness and unbelief. Then God will send down fire from heaven to devour them and the devil will be cast into the eternal flames.

God is not a man that He should lie.
He SAID a thousand years.
I bet you believe 6 days of creation are not 24hr days, huh?

 

[Truth7t7]

Seriously?
Time was established for mankind!
Time, be it A DAY or a 1,000 Years… Has no Effect on God who Has no beginning or ending.

Your Catching On!

Those seen in revelation 20:1-6 are in the Lord's "Spiritual Realm" of no literal earthly time, they are "The Souls" and "The Dead", they're in the realm of 2 Peter 3:8 where one day is a thousand years (No Literal Earthly Time) Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

WHERE are “they reigning, ruling over and WHO are “they Preaching to”?

Not one word in Revelation 20:1-6 do you see (the souls) or (the dead) preaching

 

[Truth7t7]

God is not a man that He should lie.
He SAID a thousand years.
I bet you believe 6 days of creation are not 24hr days, huh?

God's words states one day is a thousand years, is it one literal day or a thousand literal years seen below in 2 Peter 3:8 below

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[Truth7t7]

Coming in the Clouds… but you say…


My Savior Christ the Lord God… descends from the High Heavens TO the Clouds, summons up TO Him, His Church / Bride and then descends To a White Cloud, WITH His Church / Bride and His Angels and His Power…and His Kingdom…“they” rule, reign, preach to mortals still on Earth…

You now have glorified believers and angels preaching to mortals on earth, I missed that in Revelation 20:1-6 "LOL"!

 

[Truth7t7]

Hi…. So why don’t you believe in a Millennium that‘ll be a literal 1,000 years? I ask sincerely.

Revelation 20:1-6 (KJV) 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Those seen in revelation 20:1-6 are in the Lord's "Spiritual Realm" of no literal earthly time, they are "The Souls" and "The Dead", they're in the realm of 2 Peter 3:8 where one day is a thousand years (No Literal Earthly Time) Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

notice it says and THEN SHALL ALL THE TRIBES of earth MOURN .
JESUS is not coming back to tell the all inclusive ecumeincal interfaithers job well done .
HE COMETH TO LAY DOWN the FIERCE wrath of all MIGHTY GOD against all who had made and loved a lie .
And no matter how many mulism , christains , jews , hindus or any other dues that joined hand in hand
for world peace , THEY will NOT GO unpunished . YE shall make NO covenant with the peoples of the land
nor their gods , it will be a snare unto you . Ecumeincalism should never once have been done
or followed . And for all this will come down the Wrath of GOD upon all who joined in the delusion
of the inclusion and the love of an ecumeincal harlot whose peace plan was of many anti christs .
The sheep who rejected it , because THEY WERE THE TRUE SHEEP Of JESUS
will not be wailing with them . WE WILL be with the GLORIOUS LORD . SO i do hope
that encouraged you this very day .

I Agree 100%, the future time of (The Beast) is going to be a big Ecumenical anything goes feel good religion, sorta like the "Joel Osteen" false doctrines that are tooo many to list

Good post keep the sword swinging!

Jesus Is The Lord!

 

[Truth7t7]

There is a progression in that passage that you are not reconciling with all scripture. "All the tribes of the earth" began to "mourn"...in the beginning (Isaiah 24, Psalms 104).

Again, it's just your timing that is all wrong.

More gobbly goop mystery religion, once upon a time upon the lost island of the tribes of the earth mourning

My timing is all wrong, "Real Big Smiles"!

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

Betcha 5 schillings I can post 3 for every 1 of your proof texts!!!
But I am not going to because you don't listen.
Pffffft!

You can't post a proof text of a future literal Millennium on this earth, because it doesn't exist in scripture

Take the challenge, post scripture that supports your claim of a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, waiting? "Big Smiles"!

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Taken]

You now have glorified believers and angels preaching to mortals on earth, I missed that in Revelation 20:1-6 "LOL"!

LOL… not surprised you are not familiar that Priests “preach”…

Rev 20: …6
they shall be priests of God and of Christ…

 

[JimKnox]

God's words states one day is a thousand years, is it one literal day or a thousand literal years seen below in 2 Peter 3:8 below

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

I am fully aware of the passage and I know that it is the passage in which you guys ignore the rules of English grammar and try to apply a  similie to a literal event.

Peter is using a similie.
John in Rev 20 is describing a LITERAL period of time.

You guys should have been held back in 8th grade English grammar class so you could get this right.

Edit: by the way. You are misquoting Peter and butchering the passage to make it say what YOU want it to say. That's wicked.

 

[Taken]

Those seen in revelation 20:1-6 are in the Lord's "Spiritual Realm" of no literal earthly time, they are "The Souls" and "The Dead", they're in the realm of 2 Peter 3:8 where one day is a thousand years (No Literal Earthly Time) Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Stubborn and stiffnecked.

 

[Taken]

Mark 4:
[12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

 

[JimKnox]

You can't post a proof text of a future literal Millennium on this earth, because it doesn't exist in scripture

Take the challenge, post scripture that supports your claim of a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, waiting? "Big Smiles"!

Jesus Is The Lord

Rev 20.

Catholics, Episcopalians, Wesleyan, Lutherans, many Calvinists and ALL ungodly persons deny Scripture.
You should leave that bunch.

 

[Taken]

A thousand years for manKIND IS A Literal Thousand Years…

Which For The Lord God, Is but a blip, that only seems like a Single Day, to Him.

You are Not the Lord God!

 

[JimKnox]

Those seen in revelation 20:1-6 are in the Lord's "Spiritual Realm" of no literal earthly time, they are "The Souls" and "The Dead", they're in the realm of 2 Peter 3:8 where one day is a thousand years (No Literal Earthly Time) Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Ye do always pervert the right ways of the Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

LOL… not surprised you are not familiar that Priests “preach”…

Rev 20: …6
they shall be priests of God and of Christ…

Adding to God's words is a dangerous thing, be careful, scary!

Revelation 22:18-19KJV
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[Truth7t7]

Ye do always pervert the right ways of the Lord.

I rebuke your "False" personal attack!

Jesus Is The Lord