Does The Resurrection Take Place On The Last Day, With All Dead In The Grave Coming Forth?

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Those seen below are believing (Souls) they were beheaded for their testimony in Jesus and God's word, they live and reign in the Lord's spiritual realm

So … you think Souls, without their body’s, are reigning WITH Christ … somewhere you call a “spiritual” realm ——> where is that?

And WHO exactly are they “reigning” OVER?

No place in Revelation 20:1-6 do you see living mortals upon this earth in a Kingdom,

A kingdom is simply a country / Nation, with a leader… king, president, chairman, chief… different titles, same governing position…. Reigning over its citizens.

So , you are saying No mortals are alive, living in their nations when Jesus returns?

this false teaching is a man made fairy tale that doesn't exist in scripture

Who does Christ rule over if there are no humans on Earth?

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Who is being ruled over?

 

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I stated Jesus returns in "Fire" and you asked for supporting scripture?

There it is before your eyes, simple, clear, and easy to understand, will you continue to deny God's simple words of truth?

Snarky response…

Jesus Will Be Revealed In "Fire" At His Future Coming a biblical "Fact"!

Your words. Not Scripture.

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heayven, and destroyed them all.

From Heaven.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

(In Flaming Fire Taking Vengeance)

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Flaming Vengeance is The Lords Power to Cause Fire…
NOT the Lord IN Fire.

 

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Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Saw them sitting…judges…bodies
AND
Saw their souls… beheaded…souls, no body.

Not the SAME “them”…

Judges come With the Lord.
Body, soul, spirit of saved men, holy angels come with the Lord to Earth.

They in belief killed During the Trib…
Their dead body stays on Earth… their soul departs their body and goes to heaven…their body waits for First Resurrection.

Rev. 7
[13] And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
[14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
[15] Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

 

[Truth7t7]

So … you think Souls, without their body’s, are reigning WITH Christ … somewhere you call a “spiritual” realm ——> where is that?

And WHO exactly are they “reigning” OVER?

Where does it state that the beheaded souls are reigning over human on earth, they live and reign with Jesus who is now on the right hand of the Father, Jesus reigns presently over this world

A kingdom is simply a country / Nation, with a leader… king, president, chairman, chief… different titles, same governing position…. Reigning over its citizens.

Jesus Is presently King over his Kingdom, there is presently a Kingdom of darkness and light Satan/Jesus

So , you are saying No mortals are alive, living in their nations when Jesus returns?

Jesus returns and destroys all the unsaved wicked as this earth is dissolved by fire (The End)

Who does Christ rule over if there are no humans on Earth?

Who is being ruled over?

Jesus Is presently ruling from the right hand of the Father

 

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Where does it state that the beheaded souls are reigning over human on earth, they live and reign with Jesus who is now on the right hand of the Father, Jesus reigns presently over this world

No clue and why I asked you.

Jesus Is presently King over his Kingdom,

Where is His present kingdom?
Scripture please.

there is presently a Kingdom of darkness and light Satan/Jesus

Where is Satan’s Kingdom?
Scripture please.

Jesus returns and destroys all the unsaved wicked

Really… When and Where on Earth is Jesus standing while He is destroying the unsaved and wicked.
Scripture please.

as this earth is dissolved by fire (The End)

Where is Jesus Standing ON Earth while He is Dissolving the Earth by Fire?
The End? Bummer.

Jesus Is presently ruling from the right hand of the father

Scripture please.

 

[Truth7t7]

No clue and why I asked you.

Where is His present kingdom?
Scripture please.

Colissians 1:13KJV
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Hebrews 1:8KJV
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

WHERE IS Satans Kingdom scripture please

Job 2:2KJV
2 And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Luke 11:18KJV
18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

1 Peter 5:8KJV
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Really… When and Where on Earth is Jesus standing while He is destroying the unsaved and wicked.
Scripture please.

Where is Jesus Standing ON Earth while He is Dissolving the Earth by Fire?
The End? Bummer.

Scripture please.

When Jesus returns his eternal feet will touch the Mount Of Olives and in the twinkling of an eye the resurrection of all, final judgement, and the heavens and earth are dissolved (Eternity Begins) lak of fire for the unsaved wicked, new heavens, earth, Jerusalem for the righteous believers

Jesus Is The Lord

 

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Colissians 1:13KJV
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Do you think you are NOW in the Sons Kingdom?

When Jesus returns his eternal feet will touch the Mount Of Olives

Returns From Where?
Who is With Him?

 

[Truth7t7]

Do you think you are NOW in the Sons Kingdom?

All those who presently are sealed by the Holy Spirit, who's name's are written in the Lambs book of life, yes I believe im presently in the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, who rules his Kingdom presently from the right hand of the Father

Returns From Where?

Jesus returns to this earth from the his throne on the right hand of the father

Who is With Him?

The righteous saints and angels

 

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Those seen below are believing (Souls) they were beheaded for their testimony in Jesus and God's word, they live and reign in the Lord's spiritual realm waiting upon (The Last Day) resurrection of all, those who have died in faith are children of the living

I agree the martyred souls John sees were beheaded for their faithfulness unto death. But John writes they "lived and reigned" with Christ a thousand years (past tense). Wouldn't you agree they were martyred for their faithfulness while mortally/physically alive? IOW they lived and reigned a thousand years while physically alive. A thousand years symbolizing TIME but not ONE thousand physical years. Within the symbolic thousand years they were martyred for their faith, and in death John sees them as disembodied living souls in heaven because death did not end the eternal life in Christ, they obtained by grace through faith when they were physically alive. These martyred souls had to be physically alive before martyrdom or they would not have been beheaded for their faithfulness to God.

I do agree they lived and reigned with Christ in the spiritual realm through the Spirit of Christ in them from the moment they believed in Christ and were born again of His Spirit. Not only have they lived and reigned with Christ in time (symbolically a thousand years), after death they continue to live and reign with Christ in the spiritual realm of heaven the spiritual body called living souls.

 

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All those who presently are sealed by the Holy Spirit, who's name's are written in the Lambs book of life, yes I believe im presently in the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, who rules his Kingdom presently from the right hand of the Father

I agree. Because presently born-again Christians live and reign with Christ spiritually, not physically. The Kingdom of God Christ came with is the spiritual Kingdom of God within believers; it is not of this earth and can only be known and entered by whosoever has been born again. We spiritually enter the Kingdom of God in TIME (symbolized a/the thousand years), and when the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound this time shall be no longer, all who are spiritually living and reigning with Christ in the spiritual Kingdom of God through Christ's Spirit in us, will be bodily raised with immortal and incorruptible body as man was created in the beginning when God created Adam.

 

[Truth7t7]

I agree the martyred souls John sees were beheaded for their faithfulness unto death. But John writes they "lived and reigned" with Christ a thousand years (past tense). Wouldn't you agree they were martyred for their faithfulness while mortally/physically alive? IOW they lived and reigned a thousand years while physically alive. A thousand years symbolizing TIME but not ONE thousand physical years. Within the symbolic thousand years they were martyred for their faith, and in death John sees them as disembodied living souls in heaven because death did not end the eternal life in Christ, they obtained by grace through faith when they were physically alive. These martyred souls had to be physically alive before martyrdom or they would not have been beheaded for their faithfulness to God.

I do agree they lived and reigned with Christ in the spiritual realm through the Spirit of Christ in them from the moment they believed in Christ and were born again of His Spirit. Not only have they lived and reigned with Christ in time (symbolically a thousand years), after death they continue to live and reign with Christ in the spiritual realm of heaven the spiritual body called living souls.

We agree that "Thousand Years" is symbolic, you somewhat want to bring these words to a literal representation from the time of Jesus to the end representing 2,000+ literal years of church history and tribulation (100% Wrong)

Conclusion: You deny that seen below as future literal, the beheaded souls of the saints will come out of this future 3.5 year great tribulation you deny will take place, the words (Thousand Years) means nothing more than a explanation to mortal humans of God's time in the spiritual being eternal

Future, Literal, That You Deny Will Take Place?

There will be a future time of great tribulation, it will last for 3.5 literal years upon this earth, there will be a future human man who will be John's (The Beast), in the future there will be (Two Witness) who will bring literal plagues upon this earth, they have literal physical bodies that die and will lay in a literal Jerusalem street as the unsaved world celebrates their death exchanging literal gifts, they will be raised from the dead as a literal world watches as the final hours of earth's existence unfolds

 

[JimKnox]

Here's a link to an article describing the 1000 years.

Amazing Discoveries

We don't believe the doctrines of Ellen White and the Seventh Day Adventists.

I don't even have to click your link.
SDA like to HIDE their identity behind things like 3 Angels Network, Amazing Discoveries and other such deceptions.

 

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We agree that "Thousand Years" is symbolic, you somewhat want to bring these words to a literal representation from the time of Jesus to the end representing 2,000+ literal years of church history and tribulation (100% Wrong)

Time, which a/the thousand years symbolizes is given to earth, but time does not exist in eternity, which the realm of heaven is. Yes, within a thousand years is when all who have been born again live and reign with Christ during our physical life and continue to live and reign with Him a spiritual body when we physically die, many during this time shall be martyred for their faith.

And this is the same symbolic period of time that Satan is bound. There is no exact number of years, rather a/the thousand years symbolically refers to however long it takes for the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven to be complete as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is proclaimed to all the nations of the world, and whosoever believes is born again of the Spirit both knowing and entering into the Kingdom of God that is within born again believers. Yes, to date, a thousand years represents TIME from the first coming of Christ that will end when the last/seventh trumpet sounds the Kingdom of God (mystery) is complete. (Rev 10:5-7)

Conclusion: You deny that seen below as future literal, the beheaded souls of the saints will come out of this future 3.5 year great tribulation you deny will take place, the words (Thousand Years) means nothing more than a explanation to mortal humans of God's time in the spiritual being eternal

The martyred souls never return to physical life within this time symbolized a thousand years. They are forever with Christ in eternity, the spiritual body, living souls waiting in heaven for the Kingdom of God to be complete, at which time the final trumpet will begin to sound that this time, symbolized a/the thousand years has ended and Satan will be set free for a "little season." After Satan has his little season, the saints still physically alive, as well as those physically dead will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and fire will come down from God out of heaven to burn up all that is still left alive on the earth, the devil and those with him, beast and false prophet cast alive into the lake of fire and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Why are you limiting great tribulation to 3.5 years? Because Christ tells his disciples from the Mt of Olives that great tribulation will come to the saints as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is proclaimed unto all the nations of the world.

Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 24:21 (KJV) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Great tribulation began for faithful saints in the first century AD, and multitudes throughout the ages have been martyred as the Kingdom of God is being built.

Future, Literal, That You Deny Will Take Place?

First you said thousand years are symbolic, now are you saying thousand years will be literal in the future?

There will be a future time of great tribulation, it will last for 3.5 literal years upon this earth, there will be a future human man who will be John's (The Beast), in the future there will be (Two Witness) who will bring literal plagues upon this earth, they have literal physical bodies that die and will lay in a literal Jerusalem street as the unsaved world celebrates their death exchanging literal gifts, they will be raised from the dead as a literal world watches as the final hours of earth's existence unfolds

Why would you deny great tribulation has already come for many saints of the past who have been martyred for their faith? How can you place great tribulation to 3.5 years in the future since many born again believers have been, are being, and shall continue to suffer great tribulation for being faithful to Christ? It seems you lack understanding of the two witnesses and all that unfolds as they preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ unto all the nations of the world during this time symbolized a/the thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Time, which a/the thousand years symbolizes is given to earth, but time does not exist in eternity, which the realm of heaven is. Yes, within a thousand years is when all who have been born again live and reign with Christ during our physical life and continue to live and reign with Him a spiritual body when we physically die, many during this time shall be martyred for their faith.

The beheaded martyrs seen in Revelation 20:4 have come out of (The Future Great Tribulation) of 3.5 years, I'm aware that you believe that tribulation is seen from the time of Christ on earth until the 7th Trump, I Disagree

Below in Rev 20:4 you see (The Beast) and possibly you believe this is the papacy throughout its history, this being standard reformed theology?

I disagree with reformed theology, John's (The Beast) will be a "Future", literal, human man that's revealed in Jerusalem to the world, as he proclaims to be God on earth, he will cause Daniel's AOD to take place

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

And this is the same symbolic period of time that Satan is bound. There is no exact number of years, rather a/the thousand years symbolically refers to however long it takes for the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven to be complete as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is proclaimed to all the nations of the world, and whosoever believes is born again of the Spirit both knowing and entering into the Kingdom of God that is within born again believers. Yes, to date, a thousand years represents TIME from the first coming of Christ that will end when the last/seventh trumpet sounds the Kingdom of God (mystery) is complete. (Rev 10:5-7)

Satan will be loosed in the future when the 6th vial is poured out by the angel, this will happen to perform God's will in gathering the world together to the final battle in Israel Rev 16:12-14, Rev 20:7-9, I'm fully aware that you don't believe such will happen

The martyred souls never return to physical life within this time symbolized a thousand years. They are forever with Christ in eternity, the spiritual body, living souls waiting in heaven for the Kingdom of God to be complete, at which time the final trumpet will begin to sound that this time, symbolized a/the thousand years has ended and Satan will be set free for a "little season."

I Disagree with your claim Satan has a little season "After" the last/7th Trump

Scripture teaches that when the Last/7th Trump sounds eternity begins in the twinkling of an eye, the second coming, resurrection of all, catching up of believers, final Judgement complete, eternity begins, lake of fire for the unsaved world, new heaven, earth, Jerusalem for the faithful righteous

After Satan has his little season, the saints still physically alive, as well as those physically dead will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and fire will come down from God out of heaven to burn up all that is still left alive on the earth, the devil and those with him, beast and false prophet cast alive into the lake of fire and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

I disagree with Satan's little season in bold red, I agree with everything else

Why are you limiting great tribulation to 3.5 years? Because Christ tells his disciples from the Mt of Olives that great tribulation will come to the saints as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is proclaimed unto all the nations of the world.

Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 24:21 (KJV) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Great tribulation began for faithful saints in the first century AD, and multitudes throughout the ages have been martyred as the Kingdom of God is being built.



First you said thousand years are symbolic, now are you saying thousand years will be literal in the future?



Why would you deny great tribulation has already come for many saints of the past who have been martyred for their faith? How can you place great tribulation to 3.5 years in the future since many born again believers have been, are being, and shall continue to suffer great tribulation for being faithful to Christ?

Matthew 24:15-21 below, in the future Daniels AOD will take place, this will start the great tribulation, the church in Judea/Jerusalem is instructed to run to the mountains, this future time of "Great Tribulation" has never been seen before in world history (Since The Beginning Of The World) and will never be seen again (No Nor Ever Shall Be)

Conclusion: your claim that the tribulation identified in Matthew 24:21 general Church tribulation, and its being fulfilled from the time of Jesus on this earth, up to the 7th Trump is blown is "False", it's a "Future" tribulation that will start when Daniel's "Future" AOD takes place, it will last 3.5 years

Matthew 24:15-22KJV
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

It seems you lack understanding of the two witnesses and all that unfolds as they preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ unto all the nations of the world during this time symbolized a/the thousand years.

The (Two Witnesses) will be future prophets, they will bring literal plagues upon this literal world in torment, they will have physical bodies that die, and they will lay dead in a future Jerusalem street as a literal world watches in celebration of their deaths exchanging literal gifts with one another, they will be raised from the dead and ascebd into heaven as the world watches, then within the same hour a great earthquake takes place as the final hours of earth's existence takes place

 

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Jesus returns in fire and final judgment dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Jesus Returns to Earth…with:
power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Jesus is NOT “IN” Fire.
Jesus’ POWER can USE Fire at His Will.

There won't be a mortal 1,000 year millennial kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim, it's a man made fairy tale not found in scripture.

When Jesus Return TO Earth…
He Brings WITH Him…:
* His holy Servant Angels.
* His Church / Bride (As does Any Jewish Groom, Wed his Bride in his Fathers house, with his Fathers Blessing, and then Take his Bride to the Grooms own Prepared Home).

You seem to have MISSED the scriptural Teachings. Of when, how, why, God set apart …
* Land… on Earth…promised that Land TO Father Abraham and His Descendants… for Their inheritance.
* an EVERLASTING Throne…(in Jerusalem ), first occupied by king David… and lastly to be occupied BY, king Davids Descendants… for Their Inheritance.
* That the LAST and Forever KING… is JESUS…Reigning, With his Faith descendants Over All “Mortal nations, kings, citizens of their nations”… ON Earth “outside of KING Jesus’ Kingdom”
(Abraham’s Promised Land).
* AND… “WITHOUT”, the presence of Satan and his angels, ON the Earth….
For a period of 1,000 Years.

* During such 1,000 Years… Mortals, their kings, their nations, their citizens… Reproduce, Grow in number, Prosper, Hear the Word of God, Have food, Housing, needs, get along with other nations, Are in comfort…no diseases, generation after generation…live, enjoy, bury their dead, (since none will live past 120 years.)

* It is a Time of a LESSON to manKIND…
Of Human Nature…
THAT…
* Even without the presence EVIL…
* Even WITH food, housing, comfort, peace, prosperity …
SOME…
* STILL ARE Greedy, Jealous, Conniving, TO TAKE what others Have…

At the end of the 1,000 Years…
Satan, his Angels … are Returned to Earth.
They Roam…
They use their cunning Powers, to Once Again, convince kings of the Earth, citizens of Nations…THEY CAN come Together…
AND…
Overthrow KING Jesus’ Kingdom, Claim His Throne, They Rule THIS World…
AND THAT…
Is the Day Prophecy IS Fulfilled…
THAT…
ALL Nations come AGAINST ISRAEL.
AND THAT…
Is the Day Prophecy is Fulfilled..
THAT…
KING Christ Jesus’ Uses HIS Power and Authority To Rain FIRE Down From Heaven and Kill them All.
AND…
KING Jesus’ Mighty holy Angels, Battle Against Satan’s Unholy Angels…and Defeats Them…
AND Then is prophecy Fulfilled…
THAT…
Satan and his Angels are Sent to the Lake of Fire IN Hell FOREVER.

Because YOU (@The Light) and others Skip, Ignore, Preach false claims, Deny the step by step Truths that Must / Shall come to pass)…
You miss out on the Glorious and Mysterious Brilliance of The Lord God Almighty …
TO…
Effect His JUST Order and Way… For Every single Human… For Every Angel…WITH, WITH-OUT, AGAINST Him…
All forewarned…
All with FREEWILL to Choose or Reject Him…
All foretold their Eternal Destiny.

YOU quoting scripture WITHOUT “UNDERSTANDING Gods step by step ORDER and WAY…
“Does NOT land you ON the “whole Truth”.

If your “Understanding” comes from “other men or your own mind”…
You are ON a rocky path…

Understanding the Lord God Almighty’s Truth… ONLY comes to a man…
From the Lord God.

@Truth7t7
There won't be a mortal 1,000 year millennial kingdom on this earth

That ^^ is Never taught IN Scripture.

 

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The beheaded martyrs seen in Revelation 20:4 have come out of (The Future Great Tribulation) of 3.5 years, I'm aware that you believe that tribulation is seen from the time of Christ on earth until the 7th Trump, I Disagree

What matters is not whether we agree or disagree, rather what matters is what can be proven FROM the Bible. And as we prove our doctrine from the Bible, we can only know with certainty that our doctrine is true when it does not cause contradiction and confusion.

When were or shall they be martyred? They were martyred for their faith, which says they were physically alive when they lived and reigned with Christ during this time symbolized a/the thousand years. None will be bodily resurrected before the hour that is coming when the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound and time (a thousand years) shall be no longer.

There in no verse found in the Bible saying martyrs for faith coming under great tribulation will only be persecuted in this life for 3.5 years.

Revelation 2:10 (KJV) Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 2:10 is the primary verse directly commanding believers to “be faithful unto death,” supported by other New Testament passages that call for steadfastness, endurance, and loyalty to God until the end, with the promise of eternal reward. That eternal reward is first to the spiritual body of Christ, living souls who have suffered and died for their faithfulness to Him and have now departed this world and are with the Lord God and the angels in heaven.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39 (KJV) And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 (KJV) And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Re 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Re 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Below in Rev 20:4 you see (The Beast) and possibly you believe this is the papacy throughout its history, this being standard reformed theology?

I disagree with reformed theology, John's (The Beast) will be a "Future", literal, human man that's revealed in Jerusalem to the world, as he proclaims to be God on earth, he will cause Daniel's AOD to take place

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Now, you're simply assuming you know what I believe. I've never said, nor do I believe the beast is the papacy. I have no idea of what you mean when you speak of reformed theology. There are many different denominations associated with this term, with as many differing opinions.

It doesn't matter to me what or who you think the beast may be in the future. What matters is how do you prove what you allege? To argue against your opinion is a fool's error. We can only argue what we believe and have proven from the Bible. That which you highlighted in red above shows the faithfulness of the beheaded souls who are spiritually alive after physical death. How else can they have lived (physically) and reigned with Christ during this time symbolized a thousand years? Since it's apparent that John did not see souls physically alive (because living humans are not without heads), and the Bible tells us they will not be bodily resurrected immortal & incorruptible until the last trump sounds, does it not stand to reason that the beast they refused to worship is responsible for their martyrdom? Which means you err in your understanding of who/what the beast is.

In this passage below John is shown a sign in heaven of what he describes "a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name". These victorious saints John sees in heaven having the harps of God sing the son of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb.

Re 15:1 ¶ And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Re 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Re 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

The Bible contains two distinct “Songs of Moses”: one in Exodus 15 celebrating deliverance, and one in Deuteronomy 32 offering prophetic instruction and warning. Often called The Song of Moses and Miriam, this song is sung after God delivers Israel from Pharaoh’s army at the Red Sea. It praises God’s power, salvation, and victory. Those singing the son of Moses depict faithful saints of Old, which means the beast during the days of Moses is the Pharoah, ruler over Egypt.

The “Song of Moses” in Revelation 15:3 recalls Exodus 15:1‑18, sung after Israel’s deliverance from Egypt, and is linked to the “Lamb” — a title for Jesus Christ, whose sacrificial death brings ultimate deliverance. This passage proves the beast is not limited to one man coming in the future as you erroneously believe. This is worded almost exactly the same as what is written of the martyred souls in Rev 20. The beast is another depiction of the great dragon that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, called beast to magnify his dangerous character is like that of a wild animal.

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[rwb]

Continued from above:

Satan will be loosed in the future when the 6th vial is poured out by the angel, this will happen to perform God's will in gathering the world together to the final battle in Israel Rev 16:12-14, Rev 20:7-9, I'm fully aware that you don't believe such will happen

Again, you imagine knowing what I believe! Prove what you allege from the Bible if you wish to be taken seriously. Perhaps you could explain the connection you attempt to make between Rev 16:12-14 and Rev 20:7-9???

I Disagree with your claim Satan has a little season "After" the last/7th Trump

Scripture teaches that when the Last/7th Trump sounds eternity begins in the twinkling of an eye, the second coming, resurrection of all, catching up of believers, final Judgement complete, eternity begins, lake of fire for the unsaved world, new heaven, earth, Jerusalem for the faithful righteous

Why should it matter to me that you disagree with my understanding about Satan's little season without you proving from the Bible what I believe is error?

You leave out Rev 10 which speaks of the seventh trumpet sounding for "days". It is my opinion this is because the time that should be no longer incorporates Satan's little season that comes after the mystery of God, He has declared to His servants the prophets should be finished. What is the mystery? I believe Scripture proves it is the fact that Gentiles of faith will complete the Kingdom of God as the gospel is preached unto all the nations of the world. (see Ro 11:25; Ro 16:25-26; Eph 3:3-6; Eph 3:8-9; Col 1:27)

Re 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Re 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

In the days when the seventh trumpet begins to sound the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete, salvation of souls finished, the thousand years ended. Then Satan will be set free for a little season, and after his little season is complete on the last day of the days the seventh angel sounds the trumpet, Christ returns, and every saint will be caught up changed from mortal to immortal flesh. The living saints caught up and changed, the physically dead saints resurrected changed, together caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Then fire of God will come down from heaven to burn up everyone, and everything left alive on this earth. The DEAD, every unbeliever will stand before the great white throne judgment, the DEAD along with Satan will be cast into the lake of fire, then there will be a new heaven and new earth where all of the saints will be with Christ forever and ever with no more sin, suffering and death.

I don't have time for now to show from the Bible how erroneously your doctrine regarding the two witnesses is.

 

[Brakelite]

We don't believe the doctrines of Ellen White and the Seventh Day Adventists.

I don't even have to click your link.
SDA like to HIDE their identity behind things like 3 Angels Network, Amazing Discoveries and other such deceptions.

The link doesn't mention Ellen White, and they aren't "her" doctrines. They are biblical teachings (that she agreed with) that you are nervous to learn because you are afraid they will upend your presumptions and traditions. You are afraid of what you do not understand, but you aren't alone in that.

 

[Brakelite]

It isn't a deception to have a name for your independent ministry. Nor is it a deception to teach openly what you believe from scripture, regardless what church you are affiliated to. That isn't hiding.

 

[JimKnox]

The link doesn't mention Ellen White, and they aren't "her" doctrines. They are biblical teachings (that she agreed with) that you are nervous to learn because you are afraid they will upend your presumptions and traditions. You are afraid of what you do not understand, but you aren't alone in that.

That's ridiculous. I was studying SDA false doctrine as far back as 1980.
Rejected that Judaism then and still do.
Any fruit from that tree is rotten.
"A corrupt tree bringeth forth corrupt fruit".